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Orange Blooded [4154]
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I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 12:29 PM
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that are nowhere near as good as us get movement at the point of attack. Oregon st moved Oregon which has 3 guys that will play on Sundays, hell Vandy gets their backs some room. I know Caldwell knows what he is doing, we get highly ranked lineman, so it has to be either scheme or lack of will or effort. I just don't get it. I coached Oline for 20 years at the middle-High school level and I had some guys that played at the next level but I always had guys that would come off the ball, put a hat on you and drive their butts off. I know people will say people are stacking the box, Ok, then their straight man on the outside, burn them. For every defense has to give up something to get something, and the offense knows where they are going before the snap and the defense is guessing. I just don't get our yearly struggles on the OLine.
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Orange Blooded [4494]
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 12:36 PM
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Seems that way sometimes. But Kentucky’s OL just showed a whole lot of suckage.
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 12:50 PM
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well their coach just died so who knows who is coaching them now.
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 2:01 PM
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I saw that segment on ESPN Gameday and it was very sad. Made me tear up...
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 12:43 PM
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This! ^^
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Orange Blooded [4572]
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You're not wrong
Nov 28, 2020, 12:45 PM
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It would take us an hour to list all of the DLinemen and skill guys Clemson has put in the NFL, but less than a minute to talk about our OLinemen.
https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/active-nfl-players-by-college/clemson/90314
I don't know why we've historically been unable to produce dominant offensive linemen. Is it recruiting? Is it coaching? Is it Strength & Conditioning? I don't know... you'd know much more about the why's than a layman like me. But, I do know a little about math and the numbers don't add up.
Aside from that... teams have done their best to stop our run. So, schematically, we're in a bit of a hole there. But, with players like TL and ETN, it's become a "pick your poison" situation for our opponents. Our lack of a dominant OLine hasn't hobbled us and won't for the foreseeable future. Our guys are pretty good... just not consistently dominant.
I'd kill to have an OLine like Notre Dame... filled with future NFL players. And, I do think we're trending in the right direction there, especially in recruiting. Jackson Carmen is pretty good. Jordan McFadden has shown flashes of dominance and might be our best OL. And we have 3 really excellent prospects joining us in the next recruiting class.
My take is this: We're good enough on OL and they are not a liability. But when you point to our strength as a team, it's the DL and Skill groups that rightfully get the attention.
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Re: You're not wrong
Nov 28, 2020, 12:47 PM
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Imagine the yards TE9 would get behind NDs offensive line.
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Re: You're not wrong
Nov 28, 2020, 1:01 PM
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#9 behind ND OLine would be scary with those TE's!
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Orange Blooded [3562]
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Exactly what I said to my wife just now
Nov 28, 2020, 12:49 PM
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I’d kill for a nd class o line. We’d be absolutely unbeatable with this team
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Those teams hit people in the mouth.
Nov 28, 2020, 1:01 PM
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We try to push people sideways. I’ve never been a fan of that approach.
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Re: Those teams hit people in the mouth.
Nov 28, 2020, 1:07 PM
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That’s right! Too much finesse blocking by our O-line. Coach Ford’s O-Line would flat out run you over (different offense, but still....)
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 1:16 PM
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Maybe it's just a bad year and we will improve as our young guys mature. There are a couple guys on our OL that weren't very highly rated.
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 1:36 PM
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You do realize the offense is on a record setting pace? Really?
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 2:50 PM
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I don't need record breaking, I need ONE first down vs ND.
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Unfortunately you are correct 1965 Tiger ...
Nov 28, 2020, 3:01 PM
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For Travis Etienne, the top RB in the nation, to get 28 yards on 18 carries vs. Notre Dame was record setting, but not in a good way. It was an embarrassment for the O-Line and the coaches.
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 1:38 PM
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I can’t believe y’all are griping and complaining!
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 1:40 PM
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How many yds rushing did NDs OL have vs Pitt?
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 1:52 PM
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Possibly the OL is schemed to pass block and protect #16TL... If so, they are grading in the 90's...
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Orange Blooded [4154]
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Re: I don't get it! I watch the OLines at other schools..
Nov 28, 2020, 2:55 PM
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But you have the best RB in the country? Sometimes you need a first down, we can't run it unless #9 does the phenomenal.
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