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It used to seem like we could only land high star skill guys
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Feb 23, 2023, 6:45 PM
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Now it feels like we can get top lineman, QB and defense but can't land top receivers or RB. Really weird to me. Higgins and Ross were the last truly top receivers we've recruited imo
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Agree. Jeff leaving didn't help out WR recruiting.***
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Feb 23, 2023, 6:57 PM
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Re: Agree. Jeff leaving didn't help out WR recruiting.***
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:30 PM
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Great point
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We recruited and signed “top” WRs since then … but
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Feb 23, 2023, 6:57 PM
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they simply didn’t perform up to their ranking.
Ladson, Henderson, Ngata … all top national recruits that had multiple offers from the big programs.
Now, perhaps the last couple of years, the fact that we actually brought in top WRs and they left without becoming stars at Clemson has had some negative impact on our ability to recruit the top guys for the past couple of cycles.
Who knows?
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Oculus Spirit [77014]
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We've done far more with far less, right?
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:05 PM
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The question is did we miss in evaluation. I don't know that that question can be answered without some sort of proof they played exponentially better post CU. It's either that or we have a problem developing WR's, which I have been concerned might be the case. Guessing we'll have answers this year though.
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Re: We've done far more with far less, right?
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:39 PM
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I definitely agree with BBO. Jeff leaving definitely had a negative effect on our WR room. I think development and evaluation both took a step back in the WR department. It is tough to judge how big of a step back it was with the QB play the past two years coupled with the fact that I think our offensive scheme just went stale after doing the same thing for years. Like BBO said we will have a better idea this year.
Off topic but another thing I worry about is our Dline not being able to get consistent pressure with just four down lineman. It makes a big difference
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Did the power rangers spoil us?
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Feb 23, 2023, 8:28 PM
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I don't think so. Well, maybe a little, but no, they aren't the exception at Clemson. My homer "want" is to know that Wes and Nick both dig deep this off season to continuously improve. We had a lot of stuff go against us last season, especially with Brian, but I'm of the mind it's a focal point. We are skrong up the middle again this year so I'm hopeful that translates to improvement after a season with our new defensive staff.
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Maybe referring to EJ Williams, idk.***
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:33 PM
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Re: Maybe referring to EJ Williams, idk.***
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:35 PM
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If so that would prove our point
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Re: Maybe referring to EJ Williams, idk.***
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:42 PM
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The only Henderson I can think of is Xavier Henderson. We missed on him in recruiting. He chose Florida over us
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Re: We recruited and signed “top” WRs since then … but
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:32 PM
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I understand your argument, just seems like we haven't had those clear Sammy, Higgins, Ross types. Maybe it's coaching, but even Ladson and Ngata didn't scream superstar to me.
Regardless you never know who is going to hit or not until they play. No hate on the staff just an observation of lacking All conference type receiver.
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Re: We recruited and signed “top” WRs since then … but
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:56 PM
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There's also been an issue with injuries. Ngata could break his foot on the 40 yard line. Beaux Collins injures easily as well, but he has shown to have tons of talent when healthy.
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Re: We recruited and signed “top” WRs since then … but
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Feb 23, 2023, 8:00 PM
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Beaux could be very good, correct. I'm just comparing them to the instant hits that are top guys in freshman/sophomore campaigns. Even Nuk wasn't highly recruited but shined as a freshman with Kyle Parker. Just odd we don't seem to find those guys anymore.
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ain't putting that on WR's - poor route coaching and can't
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:25 PM
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catch a ball that bounces to you - WR will shine in 23.
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Re: ain't putting that on WR's - poor route coaching and can't
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:33 PM
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Cheers
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Re: It used to seem like we could only land high star skill guys
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:41 PM
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We've had some past QBs who took some good WRs and made them great. I hope we have a couple more QBs on the roster now who will be able to do that.
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Re: It used to seem like we could only land high star skill guys
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Feb 23, 2023, 7:43 PM
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Valid argument, maybe some of our WR would have shined like an Artavis or Amari with proper QB play.
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it's Brent Venables , Dabo Swinney all over again
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Feb 23, 2023, 9:37 PM
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but this is an offense era
Garret Riley , Dabo Swinney will be where all the talent goes.
Jeff Scott is back too.
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Oculus Spirit [77014]
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I may be the only Juan, but
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Feb 23, 2023, 10:19 PM
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I have no clue what you are trying to communicate.
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