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For those curious about our portal activity
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For those curious about our portal activity

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:25 PM
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Right now we are just struggling to work deals to pay our current players. Haven't shifted emphasis to portal acquisition yet. May get caught without 85 players at this rate. Sucks but is what it is from what I’m told at this point

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Submit your questions and Ill ask***

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:27 PM
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Re: Submit your questions and Ill ask***

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:29 PM
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What positions will be a point of emphasis in the portal?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:31 PM
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DE, OL, maybe S and LB

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:32 PM
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How about QB?

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For a QB that is happy strictly being a backup maybe.***

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:39 PM
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Re: Submit your questions and Ill ask***

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:39 PM [ in reply to Re: Submit your questions and Ill ask*** ]
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Not from what I was told

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Am I wrong thinking Tyson can take COVID year ?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:42 PM
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?

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Safety LOL . Tayvoy Feagin. Ricardo Jones . Noah Dixon


Dec 5, 2023, 8:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Submit your questions and Ill ask*** ]
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then Khalil Barnes
Kylen Webb
Rob Billings
are returning


Mickey Conn is losing his job if he needs another Safety

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why do y'all believe HitsLikeRendrick as a point of authority

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:03 PM
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he lives in Kentucky
who from Clemson Football is from Kentucky
it's not family

atclosest connect to clemson football he is a friend of a student medical sideline assistant

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Cause people dont move and cell phones dont exist

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:14 PM
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LOL

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This is why 13 year olds shouldnt be allowed Cell phones***

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:16 PM [ in reply to why do y'all believe HitsLikeRendrick as a point of authority ]
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Kathleen Swinney and recruits use to come watch my rec basketball practice


Dec 5, 2023, 9:28 PM
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this was all before Dabo HC
im not 13 and im more Clemson than you

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Ok so youre14

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:30 PM
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And not 13

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you don't get it***


Dec 5, 2023, 9:32 PM
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Re: Kathleen Swinney and recruits use to come watch my rec basketball practice

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Dec 5, 2023, 10:06 PM [ in reply to Kathleen Swinney and recruits use to come watch my rec basketball practice ]
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Saying im more Clemson than you screams Im 13 years old if anything ever did

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A tad defensive for a guy that called out a poster

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Dec 6, 2023, 12:16 AM [ in reply to Kathleen Swinney and recruits use to come watch my rec basketball practice ]
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for 0 reason. The guy had been spot on nearly 100% of the time. How bout you?

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:00 PM [ in reply to Re: Submit your questions and Ill ask*** ]
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Why not WR? We lack size on the boundary, and even more with Collins leaving. I understand the freshman coming in, but who knows how much they’ll contribute.

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LOL***


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Re: LOL***

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:32 PM
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What’s funny about that? Every time there has been a glaring need it’s been ignored in the portal

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What have been all these glaring needs?


Dec 5, 2023, 9:04 PM
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Some folks are just crazy with the portal thinking it’s what makes playoff teams.

What are all these “glaring needs” and provide your detail why.

Here’s a hint - the portal didn’t cost us a single win this year.

Hint #2 - it doesn’t matter if we have 5 Tee Higgins if the QB doesn’t see them.

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Re: What have been all these glaring needs?***


Dec 5, 2023, 9:29 PM
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Re: What have been all these glaring needs?


Dec 5, 2023, 11:16 PM [ in reply to What have been all these glaring needs? ]
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Soo… a better o-line and receiving core wouldn’t have helped Clemson win anymore games this year. OK. I don’t want to go full Colorado on the portal but pretty sure everyone would agree 3-4 guys up front and catching passes wouldn’t have hurt. Also if you’re going to go with the ‘nobody that can throw it to them’ excuse, those guys are also available

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:55 PM [ in reply to Submit your questions and Ill ask*** ]
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Are they considering an NIL deal for our Rally cats? Only the elite and the best!!

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they should***

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:19 PM
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Dec 5, 2023, 8:58 PM [ in reply to Submit your questions and Ill ask*** ]
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Why would we wait? Early bird gets the worm..

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:26 PM [ in reply to Submit your questions and Ill ask*** ]
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Shipley: Is he staying or going?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:28 PM
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When you means “deals” do you mean things like TigerImpact and Dear Old Clemson kind of initiatives?

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110 society

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:29 PM
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But yes, that is the general idea… our collectives.

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:31 PM
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B Carter leaving for the draft ?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:34 PM
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Great question. Everyone wants to know.

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If so, he will announce it when he is ready.

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:36 PM [ in reply to Re: For those curious about our portal activity ]
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HTH

Please submit more questions to me if you have any.

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I was just saying I dont mind asking if anyone had anything

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:53 PM
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Sorry I some how offended you

Row86

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Probably

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:43 PM [ in reply to Re: For those curious about our portal activity ]
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He wants to go, we are trying g to tactfully tell him his FILM sucks this year and pay him NIL

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:33 PM
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So is the ship sinking or is there a plan?

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It has already sunk.

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:37 PM
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Now Dabo is just pretending to try.

Shoulda known all along we couldn’t trust that jackleg.

Please submit any more questions to me.

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LOL!***

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:40 PM
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Dec 5, 2023, 8:44 PM [ in reply to It has already sunk. ]
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Thus is for you Row86. Want to find a team you like?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:38 PM
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What is it costing to keep the roster intact?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:45 PM
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Who knows. It is almost as if the entire team is shaking down the University

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:52 PM
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Blow it up at this point maybe this attitude is why we’ve played the way we have for three years

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You are supposed to know

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:52 PM [ in reply to Re: For those curious about our portal activity ]
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Since you said we are out of money- how much did we start with? Who is getting paid and how much each? When did we run out? OL Young? How much was added back in with current portals? Last one- aren’t you just guessing

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I am supposed to know?

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:21 PM
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Just telling you what I’m told when I asked.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:03 PM [ in reply to Re: For those curious about our portal activity ]
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I remember former Clemson players in the NFL being introduced at games as having donated so much money to IPTAY. Is anyone hitting up the current Clemson NFL players to donate to the collective?

Also, who at Clemson is going to force IPTAY to trim administrative costs? Clemson has a small donor base with a finite amount of money in place. IPTAY is still being run old school by employing too many people and blowing too much money. That group had a lot on a boondoggle to the ND game last season.

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How are we struggling with NIL considering that we are 6th in NIL per player?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:40 PM
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Plus, NIL isn’t just up to Clemson collectives. NIL is also from regional and national businesses/brands who sponsor NIL deals (e.g., Dr. Pepper and Bojangles for DJU, Rhodesian for Cade, etc.).

Also, we should be able to stand out above many other teams since we not only do well with NIL, but also have great facilities, recent championships, and many players in the NFL.

If all this, plus our culture and recruiting skills of our coaches, isn’t resulting in outstanding talent, then we don’t have the right culture or coaches in place. I don’t think that’s the case since we have done well with this so far.

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Re: How are we struggling with NIL considering that we are 6th in NIL per player?


Dec 5, 2023, 8:41 PM
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Source on the NIL rankings?

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Here you go:


Dec 5, 2023, 8:51 PM
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https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/highest-paid-college-athletes-in-the-nil-era

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:54 PM
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Yeah like that’s accurate

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So you dont like the results, so you say its bad data?

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:45 PM
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Come on.

I know some of you badly want to believe that we just can’t compete on NIL, because it gives you an automatic excuse when we lose a recruit or lose a game to a team who used the portal. But it isn’t true.

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Re: So you dont like the results, so you say its bad data?


Dec 5, 2023, 9:55 PM
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Or because even the numbers provided in your link make zero sense. The 2 listed Bama players made more money if you divided their amounts by 85 than what the source says the entire team made. The listed Ohio State players also made more than what the source says the entire Ohio State team made. How can anyone possibly take their numbers serious?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:55 PM [ in reply to Here you go: ]
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Utah would likely be more than that, every schollie player got a new Ram truck this year.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:03 PM [ in reply to Here you go: ]
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It’s hard for me to trust the accuracy of that information. For instance, it says the average Bama player was making $52,000. If you were to multiply that average by 85 players you’d have a total of $4.42 million for the team. The source says that Bryce Young was making $3.2 million and Williams was making $1.6 million. Well, those 2 players alone would be making more than the entire team so that already makes no sense.

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If thats true, then its gross mismanagement on iptays part

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:41 PM
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Why are we blowing our big asks on building gymnastics, rowing and basketball facilities?

Football pays the bills. Stop investing in this crap until you have the football nil budget squared away!

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At the risk of sounding like Judge Keller

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:44 PM
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If this is true, then what the heck?!?!

Brownell seems to have figured out the portal / nil game in basketball, why do we have an army of people in the football building that can’t figure it out?

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About 70 more to take care of in That Football Building

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:47 PM
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LOL

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If this is true, then what the heck?!?!

Brownell seems to have figured out the portal / nil game in basketball, why do we have an army of people in the football building that can’t figure it out?


I’ve been told the basketball program has a few boosters that have really stepped up. It’s a much smaller roster to work the deals.

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:46 PM
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Will we have any early enrollees? If so, do you know who they are?

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Dec 5, 2023, 8:58 PM
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How exactly does that happen? Do the coaches not have a pulse on this team? Seems we should have an idea these things are coming up. Is the bank CEO running our collective in over his head? Not being sarcastic, but truly curious how it could get that bad and seem to have snuck up on the staff.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:08 PM
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I don’t think it has to sneak up on the coaches for it to go down like this. Let’s say another job wants to triple your salary. Your boss knowing a few months in advance doesn’t really help him keep you if his budget doesn’t allow him to come close to matching what the other company is offering.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:13 PM
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But if that were the case, I would assume they’d cut bait and decide to look in the portal for a replacement. There’s a finite amount of money and scholarships to go around for every school, which is why half these kids end up left out in the cold. Coaches are going to need to manage a roster like an NFL GM with a salary cap.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:56 PM [ in reply to Re: For those curious about our portal activity ]
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TXTiger08 said:

How exactly does that happen? Do the coaches not have a pulse on this team? Seems we should have an idea these things are coming up. Is the bank CEO running our collective in over his head? Not being sarcastic, but truly curious how it could get that bad and seem to have snuck up on the staff.


In speaking last summer to someone close to the NIL situation, there was similar chaos getting deals renewed for current players. The players have come to expect auto renewals, but the booster money has to be there. Right now we don’t have a predictable enough funding process. Notice 110 Society wants to generate revenue from autographed items and meet & greets, but that’s not the solid committed booster money they need. To sign deals in advance of money arriving Clemson has got to get to a predictable funding method like how IPTAY fund raising works. We aren’t there yet.

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Dec 5, 2023, 10:08 PM
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Would the new division being floated by the NCAA be something they would be a net positive for us? Would it allow us to pay players directly through IPTAY? Maybe I understood it wrong, but it seemed that that would be the case.

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And thats pathetic.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:14 PM
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This was years in the making (Sure, maybe we didn’t know the extent but we all could see this a mile a way) and we got caught with our pants down? That falls on Coach Swinney.

Wow.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:21 PM
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You make it sound like we’re out of money

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Personally dont know the finances

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:26 PM
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Just relaying what I was told when I asked based off a private conversation with someone. As I’ve said many times, I’m just a big fan that relays information that I find interesting that others might want to hear. I’ll try not to bother next time.

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Re: Personally dont know the finances

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:58 PM
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I appreciate your info always. Usually right too. Don’t worry about these miserable who are mad your relaying info and they aren’t

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:31 PM
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...so what you're saying is NIL and the portal are ruining football.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:42 PM
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So Dear Old Clemson and Tiger Impact are closing down. Honoring current contracts, so all new stuff is now relying on 110 Society to be up and running. I think we have our answer that it is not fully capable yet. Folks you have to realize the Branding Bldg is not doing the independent contractor type of intent. The athletes are not going out making their own deals for the most part. For Football atleast, the players have their agents and go to the NIL money trough which is now 110 Society. A few like Shipley have been aggressive and found willing businesses and organizations, but he’s more the exception than the rule.

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Dec 5, 2023, 9:35 PM
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and we’re also going to be out of the ACC by the end of September 2023 right? 😏

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It was October***

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