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Can DEION just kick players out onto the Street?
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:10 AM
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What a nightmare for the Colorado players...
Do anyone know:
Can a coach just Willynilly Cut a player on Scholarship and kick him out onto the street like Deion’s doing?
How F/in heartless that guy is.
https://apple.news/AvVao_xY6R8u2Zf1NwIgrNA
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An athletic scholarship is effectively a contract...
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:21 AM
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between the university and the student-athlete that is renewed annually at the total discretion of the college or university. This is one reason why some people heavily favor the transfer portal.
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WOW - I never knew that Scholarships were ONE YEAR deals
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:24 AM
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WOW - I never knew that Scholarships were ONE YEAR deals. Thanks.
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Most sports it is true, just not P5 football that has prob
Apr 26, 2023, 12:04 PM
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trickled down to all FBS schools for competitive reason. They are 4 year scholarships w/rules around what you can and cannot rescind them for.
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Pretty sure they changed the rule on this, an incoming coach
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can 'cut' a player to bring in his own and in doing so they have to offer to honor the scholarship for the remainder of their 4 years IF the player decides to stay in school yet not play football. Colorado players that were cut reported that they were told they could remain on scholarship and at Colorado if they so chose, but they of course were no longer on the football team.
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Please stop, you're interrupting the bash Deion crusade
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Apr 26, 2023, 12:00 PM
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that happens here every week or two.
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What have I said...
Apr 26, 2023, 12:08 PM
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that can be even remotely construed to "bashing Deion"?
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It is funny that Lincoln Reilly did this last year to little
Apr 26, 2023, 12:16 PM
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or no outrage. Now I think Sanders is doing it to a much larger scale but I think I remember 10-15 players being cut for athletic reasons under this same rule available to new coaches.
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2 year limit on what, the new coach being able to cut a
Apr 26, 2023, 12:14 PM
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for athletic reasons? I think it has to be done before the first official game is played, but maybe Im wrong. P5 programs implemented a rule of 4 year scholarships because players were being cut for athletic reasons.
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The time period a school must extend the scholarship...
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Apr 26, 2023, 12:19 PM
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to players who have been been cut.
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I don't think it's 'extending' anything, its just honoring
Apr 26, 2023, 12:43 PM
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the original scholarship, which in P5 moved to allow it to be 4 years a couple years back. I think, in practice, almost all are 4 years now but I guess the devil is in the details.
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Re: Can DEION just kick players out onto the Street?
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:25 AM
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DO or DOES?
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HAHA - I seem to make at least 1 Typo everytime I post***
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Re: HAHA - I seem to make at least 1 Typo everytime I post***
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:34 AM
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That's not it. 72 seems to think all of us should post as if we're turning in a final term paper.
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spurrier did it all the time. Saban does it too.
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:25 AM
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Saban signed 35 players a cycle to get alot of those #1 classes. In order to make room for oversigners you gotta boot somebody.
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Re: Can DEION just kick players out onto the Street?
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:30 AM
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Yep that’s why I’ve always laughed at the people who pretended to care about college athletes. They went ape #### when Dabo said he might have to pull walk ons scholarships but not a word when Deion is kicking half the team to the curb.
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That's because Dabo has never done it and claims to
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Apr 26, 2023, 12:02 PM
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be against doing it, but is now having to do it.
Deion was very up front when he took the Colorado job that he would be deciding which players were good fits and which were not, and notifying the ones that were not that they should look elsewhere.
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In this universe, facts matter
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Apr 26, 2023, 12:22 PM
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He hasn't cut anyone's scholarship.
But you've never let the truth bother you.
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So someone says something bad about Deion
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:30 AM
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and it's true, but someone says something bad about our coaches and they are a lying, bitter, evil person?
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Sad little troll. Cry to mommy.
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:32 AM
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Re: Sad little troll. Cry to mommy.
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:43 AM
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And who am I trolling?
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Re: Sad little troll. Cry to mommy.
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:45 AM
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I have no idea. My comment was a reply to JK’s usual jealous crap, knowing she will then run crying to the mods.
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Re: Sad little troll. Cry to mommy.
Apr 26, 2023, 11:50 AM
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Oh gotcha I got JK blocked no need to see the bs from him
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In fairness...
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:33 AM
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Deion told them all this was exactly what he planned to do, so the Colorado players pretending to be surprised or actually surprised now is a bit puzzling.
When people show you who they are, believe them the first time!
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When there's a valid point, I have no problem with it
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Apr 26, 2023, 11:36 AM
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When its done out of jealousy, as you frequently do, I have a problem with it.
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LOL what exactly do you think I'm jealous of?
Apr 26, 2023, 11:48 AM
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Hilarious!
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I love Clemson football and am proud of our success.
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Apr 26, 2023, 12:24 PM
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I'm not jealous of it. LOL!
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Re: I love Clemson football and am proud of our success.
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Apr 26, 2023, 1:16 PM
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I'm not jealous of it. LOL!
But you hate dabo...just admit it...
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Are you always this delusional?***
Apr 26, 2023, 1:43 PM
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Sounds like the majority of your diatribes on Brownell
Apr 26, 2023, 1:57 PM
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de·lu·sion·al
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"characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition."
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Re: So someone says something bad about Deion
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The difference is that we all know Deion is a sack of ####. He was fired from his own high school for assaulting a teacher gave bad grades to football players. His son did the same to a different teacher, one Deion employs. Deion also was charged with assault only a few years ago for beating his wife.
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I disagree about Deion.
Apr 26, 2023, 11:59 AM
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I see him as someone who has had incredible success as a professional athlete, and has also been through some challenges due to his own errors in judgment and the trappings of stardom. He turned his life around, became a Christian, and has done a lot of good since then.
I believe he is a better man today than he was years ago.
You don't have to like his style or his past, but I think it's important to recognize that he has changed and is using his platform for good. His story resonates with a lot of young people.
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Re: I disagree about Deion.
Apr 26, 2023, 1:57 PM
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What you're missing is that this stuff didn't happen in the 1990s when he was a football star. They happened in the last decade AFTER he allegedly turned his life around. He allegedly became a Christian in 1997 after he committed suicide.
Almost 20 years later, right before he became a head coach at Jackson State, he was fired from the high school he founded (literally called Prime Prep). He was charged with domestic violence against his wife in 2013 and then again, against a different wife, in 2015. His son, whom he currently employs, attacked the teacher a few years ago.
I get that Deion gives mouth service to finding God and it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. But it's ########. What matters are his actions. This isn't in the past and weren't the actions of a 21 year old defensive back whose caught up on his own stardom. These were all the actions of a 50 year old father. People can differ on whether a tiger can change their stripes, but there's no evidence its happened here, especially when continues to do horrible things.
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Re: I disagree about Deion.
Apr 26, 2023, 1:59 PM
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attempted to commit suicide*
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Dabo > Deion
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Does anybody else remember Dabo honoring the four-year scholarship of a recruit who had a stroke and was never going to play a single snap at Clemson? Dabo even went to his bed at the hospital and insisted he wanted him to sign his Letter Of Intent to Clemson.
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Re: Can DEION just kick players out onto the Street?
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Deion has one thing that he is going to promote, elevate and nurture. That is his own massive ego. A true narcissist of the highest order who always has to be the center of attention. First it was sports, then it was preaching, then it was reality TV, now coaching football. Always about Deion and never about the kids. He demands things from the players that he never did as a young man. Just take a look at the pictures of him on draft day with the fashion attire, jerry curls and multiple gold chains, which he does not allow his players to wear. He demanded they never wear a baseball cap in any team meeting as he was standing before them wearing a baseball cap. Total egomaniac and hypocrite!
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Re: Can DEION just kick players out onto the Street?
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Perfect description
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Does he at least provide them AFLAC ?
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It pays bill insurance won't cover.
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Yes, a new coach in P5 football can do this, providing they
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provide the remainder years of the scholarship (I think it's 4 in power conf football) if the player chooses to remain in school and not play. This can only be done for athletic reasons when a new coach is hired.
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This is what happens when winning becomes everything.
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People pay lip service to academics, and student-athletes focusing on their personal development, and maintaining the purity of college athletics.... but there are more people who nearly completely care about winning (silly pride) and don't have a natural appreciation or desire for the above things.
I would prefer Clemson be in FCS than CFB be turned into a minor league for the pros. I don't understand why NFL-type fans have to corrupt CFB when they can already have NFL/XFL/USFL.
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Hence why the Power 5 moved to 4 year scholarships that
Apr 26, 2023, 12:59 PM
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don't allow it to be rescinded for athletic reasons, only for a specified set of rules, except when a new coach takes over. If the new coach does 'cut' the player from the team the school has to honor the scholarship if they remain enrolled but not on the team.
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but just for two years (I think)
Apr 26, 2023, 1:04 PM
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It is entirely possible that I am misremembering this since I haven't bothered to go back and actually re-read the policy.
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Key from the article, and NCAA bylaw
Apr 26, 2023, 1:20 PM
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The rule they’ve been using — 15.5.1.7 — is known as the “Aid After Departure of Head Coach” bylaw. Newly hired coaches can remove a player from their 85-man scholarship roster but keep them on scholarship as long as they stop playing.
15.5.1.7 Aid After Departure of Head Coach. A student-athlete who receives athletically related institutional financial aid in subsequent academic years after the departure of a head coach from the institution is not a counter in a year in which the student-athlete does not participate in intercollegiate athletics, provided: (Adopted: 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17, 5/1/19)
(a) The student-athlete participated in the applicable sport and received athletically related institutional financial aid during the coach's tenure at the institution; and
(b) The student-athlete does not participate in the applicable sport beyond the next regular academic year (including completion of the championship season in spring sports) after the departure of the head coach.
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Re: Can DEION just kick players out onto the Street? YEP***
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