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The winner of last night's Pub debate ...
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Dec 7, 2023, 7:38 AM
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Donald Trump. Of the 4 that actually participated, in my eyes the clear winner was Chris Christie. By far his best showing. Sadly, he doesn't have a prayer, but he's the only one that dares to speak the truth and call out Trump. It's a long shot for any of the others as well, but they all spend their time attacking each other, when the one they have to beat, the only one that matters, Donald Trump, is ignored. Last night was their chance to make it clear why they are a better choice than Trump, but all except Christie were too chickens hit. Poor DeSantis was dancing and dodging and trembling in his boots when challenged by Christie to say whether or not Trump was fit to be president.
Someday we, and generations to come, will all look back at this election cycle and regard it as a case study in mass insanity and stupidity.
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Dont disagree***
Dec 7, 2023, 7:48 AM
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Re: The winner of last night's Pub debate ...
Dec 7, 2023, 7:56 AM
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This election cycle will be studied for decades on how a cult leader can trauma bond roughly 1/3rd of the population.
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The winner of last night's debate was drop boxes.***
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Dec 7, 2023, 8:07 AM
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Oculus Spirit [97750]
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My favorite exited the circus. Figures.
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Dec 7, 2023, 8:10 AM
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Oh well. I'd still take Haley over Trump. That's a vote I could actually hold my nose and make. Still not optimal by any means.
As far as I'm concerned, no rational, intelligent, and quality leader would ever volunteer to enter the circus that is American politics. That's just a fact. Our system is not designed to place the best leaders in power. Good people are repelled by our politics in the US, NOT attracted to it. The whole mess attracts the wrong TYPES of people. Party notwithstanding. And when a truly good politician enters and has success, they are shown the door by the wolves.
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All-TigerNet [11961]
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I don't think Trump
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Dec 7, 2023, 8:29 AM
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will require digital ID to go online.
Haley is a nogo fosho.
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Oculus Spirit [97750]
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Most interesting thing is I was a POSC major, partly.
Dec 7, 2023, 8:44 AM
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History was the other. Combine the two and you get a unique perspective. I just wonder what is happening today in Clemson's POSC classes? Constitutional Law? Lasser and Woodard are probably dumbstruck. I don't know, Woodard may have gone all MAGA, but I'm sure Lasser is dejected. All that major teaches, the "science" they call it, all of that is secondary to the bigger picture. I mean you can get into the minutia of urban and municipal and regional politics. But nationally, it's a trainwreck.
And it's the history majors who know this. My biggest concern is political science majors, who only study political science and have very little historical perspective or knowledge, are going to have a very myopic view of the political system we currently have in place. And the politicians and the media LOVE myopia. They would say the system we have is perfection, and the only problems are caused by the other party. That simply is not the case.
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It's not the "other" party... It's the 'Uni-Party'. It's entrenched.***
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Dec 7, 2023, 12:52 PM
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Lot o points [155976]
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Haley could change every view she has to match mine, and
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Dec 7, 2023, 8:30 AM
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I’m still not sure I could vote for her unless she starts moving her teeth when she talks. It’s unnerving how her lips move but her teeth stay together.
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Could be beneficial for beejays.
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Dec 7, 2023, 8:53 AM
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Ah, who am I kidding…she’s married she doesn’t do that anymore.
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If I wanted to vote for a Dem, I'd vote RFK over Christie.
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Dec 7, 2023, 10:38 AM
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Christie sounded like he was interviewing for a job at MSNBC.
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I don't see that at all. I see him as a traditional Republican,
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Dec 7, 2023, 12:09 PM
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much, much more like Ronald Reagan/George Bush than Trump, or any Dem, and I see that as a very good thing.
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lol ... good one.***
Dec 7, 2023, 1:04 PM
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Uhhhh ... okay.***
Dec 7, 2023, 3:09 PM
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Re: The winner of last night's Pub debate ...
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Dec 7, 2023, 10:39 AM
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Sadly
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IMO none of them (other than Christie, who doesnt
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Dec 7, 2023, 11:09 AM
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really matter) are actually trying to become president. They are vying for cabinet positions, or VP. Their strategies make no sense if they are actually trying to be president.
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Vivek definitely going for VP or cabinet.***
Dec 7, 2023, 12:11 PM
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Re: Vivek definitely going for VP or cabinet.***
Dec 7, 2023, 12:38 PM
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hes too whacky
sarah sanders will be the VP
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Could be, but he auditioned last night.***
Dec 7, 2023, 2:11 PM
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Re: Why not MTG or Boebert?
Dec 7, 2023, 3:13 PM
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too whacky
sanders will do
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Re: The winner of last night's Pub debate ...
Dec 7, 2023, 7:30 PM
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Ask LCheney what happens when you don't bend the knee to DADDY. And am I correct in remembering you getting really triggered at her for standing up to Trump? LOL hypocrite. 😆
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Re: The winner of last night's Pub debate ...
Dec 7, 2023, 8:48 PM
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She definitely got knee capped for taking a stand against Trump.
What I would like her to explain now though is what is her rationale for potentially running as a 3rd party candidate for President?
How does splitting the anti Trump vote with Biden help in preventing a Trump presidency?
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Re: The winner of last night's Pub debate ...
Dec 7, 2023, 10:37 PM
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I don't see why Trump isn't "fit" to be President. He is an outsider who doesn't understand how all our Government Agencies work but everyone else with that knowledge and experience will let it go to waste by shilling for the status quo. Trump may have learned a lesson or two about how to deal in Washington and may be able to dismantle some of the Cabals as they were certainly exposed during his Presidency. This country would greatly benefit from it
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I cant tell if this post is a joke or not***
Dec 7, 2023, 10:53 PM
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