Replies: 29
| visibility 51
|
Oculus Spirit [97151]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 29252
Joined: 9/14/05
|
Question for all you AD's out there....
14
14
May 17, 2023, 1:25 PM
|
|
let's consider a worst-case scenario... Clemson gets stuck in the ACC until 2036, with deficits of $30M annually compared to the B1G and SEC. How would this play out in our athletic department? Would football be ~ OK, but other sports suffer mightily? Would we cut some of the men's programs because of the deficit?
Only replies from knowledgeable individuals will be considered.
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3031]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3263
Joined: 8/29/05
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
8
8
May 17, 2023, 1:32 PM
|
|
I want Balloons, Brats and Beers.
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [82180]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 17342
Joined: 1/14/17
|
and bewbs
7
7
May 17, 2023, 3:48 PM
|
|
.
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [108390]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 64974
Joined: 2/25/06
|
DRad cut Track & Field, ended up AD @ a bottom tier, 3rd...
7
7
May 17, 2023, 1:34 PM
|
|
world football program.
No good can come of that...
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [27303]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 16080
Joined: 10/13/08
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
9
9
May 17, 2023, 1:36 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [20874]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3455
Joined: 10/7/07
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
4
May 17, 2023, 1:43 PM
|
|
Based on the trend line analysis (thank you, by the way) we will have a $30M annual deficit (comparatively) in 2029. How much will that deficit be in 2036? I am assuming the SEC and B10 are going to negotiate even higher contracts for 2030 and beyond while we wait out the GOR deal.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [11369]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5072
Joined: 10/31/03
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
3
May 17, 2023, 1:51 PM
|
|
And don't forget we have to sign Brad to a fat contract otherwise he might get poached.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [27303]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 16080
Joined: 10/13/08
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
3
May 17, 2023, 3:05 PM
[ in reply to Re: Question for all you AD's out there.... ] |
|
Both conferences actually get to re-visit their deals twice within that timeframe.....so the gap will probably be much larger. That's a fact.
|
|
|
|
|
All-Conference [410]
TigerPulse: 99%
Posts: 321
Joined: 2/1/23
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [141195]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33976
Joined: 12/5/10
|
I know the answer to this one.***
9
9
May 17, 2023, 1:44 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [97151]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 29252
Joined: 9/14/05
|
That's nice, but unfortunately
2
12
2
12
May 17, 2023, 1:48 PM
|
|
your reply will not be considered.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [40141]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 18293
Joined: 10/28/15
|
There are a lot more DAs than ADs on this bored!***
13
13
May 17, 2023, 2:05 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5398]
TigerPulse: 70%
Posts: 9286
Joined: 11/29/99
|
Some like to prove it 100+ times a day
May 18, 2023, 8:59 AM
|
|
Point Ho’s
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [39905]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5985
Joined: 12/8/20
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
4
May 17, 2023, 2:22 PM
|
|
So 2036 - 2023 X 30mil = (wait can't do this in my head)
Apparently not the ADs.
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [15763]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 17387
Joined: 2/1/99
|
-60,689,997,964***
May 17, 2023, 8:36 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8439]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3967
Joined: 9/11/08
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
2
May 17, 2023, 2:23 PM
|
|
Other sports will definitely suffer. I think club sports will be the first to go, then intramurals.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8647]
TigerPulse: 49%
Posts: 11610
Joined: 9/9/06
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
2
May 17, 2023, 2:30 PM
|
|
When you receive $35-40 million a year and sell out an 80,000 seat stadium, you are not running a deficit. Do not buy the idea that we are at a disadvantage.
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [97151]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 29252
Joined: 9/14/05
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
8
8
May 17, 2023, 2:35 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [141195]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33976
Joined: 12/5/10
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5552]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5027
Joined: 10/21/15
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
1
May 17, 2023, 3:50 PM
[ in reply to Re: Question for all you AD's out there.... ] |
|
Nobody said we are running at a deficit. But we will be tens of millions behind our competition annually. How is that not clear?
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [77602]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 28764
Joined: 12/1/18
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17882]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14273
Joined: 10/24/10
|
Are we talking before or after Coach Swinney leaves?
2
May 17, 2023, 3:15 PM
|
|
let's consider a worst-case scenario... Clemson gets stuck in the ACC until 2036, with deficits of $30M annually compared to the B1G and SEC. How would this play out in our athletic department? Would football be ~ OK, but other sports suffer mightily? Would we cut some of the men's programs because of the deficit?
Only replies from knowledgeable individuals will be considered.
Seriously cutigerbob®, I do not project Dabo and his staff of friends & colleagues to stay at Clemson when top SEC/B1G head coaches are earning $20M plus per year and asst coach salaries and player NIL payments are also half of SEC/B1G. Dabo will stash that money in his coffers and generously donate to his church and selected charities in dollar amounts that would not be feasible at Clemson.
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [112457]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 74066
Joined: 9/10/03
|
I think the proper thing is for Clemson to take out
5
5
May 17, 2023, 3:27 PM
|
|
a sizable loan AND hire a private equity firm to re-arrange the finances, then eventually file Bankruptcy and the tax payers can foot the bill. By then we will have several new stadiums and a 25 story glass dorm for the Football team
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [97151]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 29252
Joined: 9/14/05
|
Solid plan is solid.***
4
May 17, 2023, 3:28 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16891]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9389
Joined: 11/1/14
|
You're an accountant and
3
May 17, 2023, 4:01 PM
|
|
Asking AD $$ questions of non-accountant-pretend AD's?
Not my lane...
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [11488]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8185
Joined: 10/18/16
|
Re: Question for all you AD's out there....
1
May 17, 2023, 6:49 PM
|
|
By 2036 it's not going to matter because all the top tier High School players will have collected their NIL money since Junior High School and all be fat, dumb and lazy with no desire to sacrifice in college.
It will be about which college HC can take the 2 and 3 star players and make them All-Americans.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [66850]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33509
Joined: 12/3/03
|
I cannot help but believe the Clemson football brand would
1
May 17, 2023, 6:57 PM
|
|
be severely diminished by then, in that scenario. The question would then become, "What's NEXT?"
I don't even PRETEND to know what the conference landscape will look like in 2036. But the bad news is, given my family medical history, I probably won't be around to see it anyway.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22947]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7353
Joined: 8/31/03
|
I'm no AD, but I will tell you what ...
1
May 17, 2023, 7:58 PM
|
|
.... the position of the AD at FSU said.
(Close paraphrase) "It is impossible for us to be competitive at the highest level with a 30 million dollar, and increasing ever year, annual deficit."
My interpretation: We either get out of the ACC, and do so quickly, or we accept the fact that we will not be competing for national championships within the next few years. We will be, at best, a group of five level school.
So, it's not a matter of cutting programs and figuring out how to compete. That is not an option. There are two options: 1. Get out of ACC and join SEC or B1G. 2. Become a school competing with East Carolina, South Florida and Old Dominion.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [20874]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3455
Joined: 10/7/07
|
Re: I'm no AD, but I will tell you what ...
4
May 17, 2023, 8:21 PM
|
|
Va Tech would love to compete with Old Dominion.
Too soon?
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [11528]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 910
Joined: 1/6/02
|
Is it to late to be considered?
1
May 18, 2023, 8:41 AM
|
|
I think wimminz mud wrestling in Death Valley would almost immediately wipe out this deficit you speak of. This is a very sirius reply and has been presented to our Bored of Trustees. I have filed for a copyright, so please do not try to take credit. My crack lawyer, DSP, will defend vigorously.....or something vigorously.
|
|
|
|
Replies: 29
| visibility 51
|
|
|