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Orange Blooded [2115]
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Good article on how to confront vaccine-skeptics....
Mar 29, 2024, 9:48 AM
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https://wapo.st/3vsq9jT
I saved the link as a gift, so you should be able to read it, though it's technically behind a paywall.
One thing to remember is that vaccines are put through more rigorous testing/approvals than non-vaccine medicines. This is because vaccines are given to people without any illness, whereas in medicines, we expect and tolerate some side effects.
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Re: Good article on how to confront vaccine-skeptics....
Apr 16, 2024, 5:46 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8511593/
Paragraph between tables 1 & 2.
"The death toll from the COVID-19 vaccine is greater than every vaccine in the last 20 years combined"
Source: https://perma.cc/T8SH-C8LE
There is nothing wrong with being a skeptic of ANYTHING. Do research and make an informed decision.
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Orange Blooded [2115]
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From your first link:
Apr 19, 2024, 7:56 AM
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After careful review of the reports, there is no enough evidence that the COVID-19 vaccine contributed to those fatalities [16]. Clinical information such as death certificates, autopsy, and medical records establish no causal link to the COVID-19 vaccines according to the CDC. The death of a person following vaccination does not necessarily mean, the vaccine caused health problems and could be coincidental. Research done by the Paul Ehrlich Institute (the body in charge of vaccines in Germany) stated that patients died of their underlying diseases in a coincidental time with vaccination. This came after 10 COVID-19 vaccination deaths were recorded in the country [17]. Early studies conducted by the Norwegian Medicine Agency on reports of 33 deaths in a nursing home following vaccination of residents’ revealed death occurred close to these terminally ill patients at the time of vaccination [17]. It does not imply a causal relation to the vaccine.
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All-American [595]
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Re: From your first link:
Apr 21, 2024, 8:02 AM
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Your civic duty to post life saving tips on a Clemson board as a GTech fan? Thanks buddy.
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If you want to take every COVID vaccine that the Big Pharma conjures up then go
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Apr 21, 2024, 8:30 AM
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for it. Pump as much of that MRNA vaccine stuff into your body as you want. I won't ridicule you or even criticize you for doing so. In fact, I hope things work out well for you and that you remain COVID free.
But... if you want to employ Government force, public ridicule, or any other scheme of mandatory COVID vaccination - then you can go fug yourself. What's that slogan the left is so fond of??? Oh yeah - MY BODY, MY CHOICE.
Why can't we just get to a place with COVID where those that want to take the vaccines or don't want to take the vaccines can exercise their decision without ridicule, criticism, or derision?
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All-In [40950]
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but remember unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated people
Apr 21, 2024, 8:58 AM
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that's the way it works or something like that
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Re: Good article on how to confront vaccine-skeptics....
Apr 21, 2024, 9:12 AM
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Why confront them at all?
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Re: Good article on how to confront vaccine-skeptics....
Apr 22, 2024, 9:49 AM
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That's the Leftist playbook. Indoctrination. Kind of funny that the "free thinkers" are anything but. Think of their logic...by not being vaxxed or wearing a mask, you're harming others. Let me pretend to have virtue while shaming you. "Hydroxychloroquine is dangerous" even though it has been taken daily for months or years for over 65 years by nationals working in 3rd world countries. "Ivermectin is a horse de-wormer" is a preposterous lie from the left. It was created as a treatment for parasites in humans that was later found to be effective for animals.
If the left wants to prohibit you from saying something, it's not because it's false but because it hinders their narrative.
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Orange Blooded [2115]
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Ivermectin & HCQ are not treatments for Covid....
Apr 22, 2024, 2:37 PM
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It's been shown over and over in studies. Really, so many times, it makes your head spin.
But you guys won't just give it up, because somewhere some left-winger hurt your feelings about something. You're such little snowflakes...
You trumpet the virtues of HCQ & Ivermectin, which don't help treat Covid, while slamming vaccines that do help against Covid.
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All-In [40950]
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Studies show that Covid vaccines are 95% effective
Apr 22, 2024, 2:39 PM
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if you are vaccinated you won't get or spread the disease. The unvaccinated are selfish and will kill grandma.
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Orange Blooded [2115]
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Against the original variant, they were 95% effective...
Apr 22, 2024, 3:10 PM
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The virus mutated, and was able to evade the vaccines and still infect people. But the vaccines still slowed the infections, and still were highly effective against severe infections & death.
Unvaxxed had much higher death rates, much higher severe infections, and still strongly higher infection rates.
I don't know why this still is being debated, when the success of the vaccines is obvious.
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All-American [595]
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Re: Against the original variant, they were 95% effective...
Apr 25, 2024, 7:44 AM
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Just like your kindred spirit Algore. The debate is over!
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Orange Blooded [2115]
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Nope, just battling against dis-information....
Apr 25, 2024, 7:00 PM
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The vaccines were extremely successful. I wish more people in the US took them, because vaccine hesitancy or rejection cost a few hundred thousand lives.
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All-In [40950]
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yeah we agree how awesome the vaccine was
Apr 25, 2024, 8:34 PM
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see the thing about covid is that it's really heavy and gets trapped in spittle. If you are 6 feet from someone you won't contact the disease because it falls to the ground.
Another way to prevent spread is to put up a 2'x3' piece of plexiglass between you and someone else.
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For the love of God will this thread ever go away?***
Apr 25, 2024, 8:13 AM
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All-American [595]
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Re: For the love of God will this thread ever go away?***
Apr 26, 2024, 7:15 AM
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Another thing about Covid is that it's really dumb. You can walk to your table in a restaurant with your mask on, and once you sit down and take the mask off that stooge of a virus can't find you. Another is that it will kill you in a heartbeat in church but you're completely safe at Walmart or a liquor store.
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Orange Blooded [2115]
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Masks are very helpful to reduce the spread....
Apr 26, 2024, 4:48 PM
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unless only a few % of Americans are wearing them.
In Asia, masking was much more accepted, and they had alot better success weathering the early surges until the vaccines came out.
In the US, masks became a faux "freedom" issue for the same morons who think "ElEcsHun WUZ sTolin" in 2020. And it basically destroyed any attempts to weather the storm early and during the ramp-up of the vaccines.
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