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CU Guru [1316]
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Here ya go:
Jun 7, 2022, 10:58 PM
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Guns are not illegal. Drugs are Illegal. U.S. deaths attributed to drug overdoses topped 100,000 last year for the first time, the CDC reported Wednesday. The CDC said there were an estimated 107,622 drug overdose deaths in 2021, a 15% increase over the previous record of 93,655 set in 2020. Drug overdose deaths rose 30% from 2019 to 2020. Deaths from fentanyl, a synthetic opioid, rose to 71,238 in 2021 from 57,834 in 2020. Deaths from methamphetamine increased to 32,856 in 2021 from 24,576 in 2020. Cocaine deaths rose to 24,538 in 2021 from 19,927 in 2020.
Our priorities are broken.
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110%er [9036]
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Re: Here ya go:
Jun 7, 2022, 11:03 PM
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jim hay hay is not after gun control, its people control
wants to lock up americans
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Not all people. Just gun people.***
Jun 7, 2022, 11:05 PM
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110%er [9036]
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Re: Not all people. Just gun people.***
Jun 7, 2022, 11:36 PM
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lock up your political adversaries?
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Gun ownership is not political expression.
Jun 7, 2022, 11:40 PM
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But I do think there is a case to be made that the NRA is a terror-sponsoring organization under the USA PATRIOT Act, if you read it.
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Re: Gun ownership is not political expression.
Jun 7, 2022, 11:45 PM
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see, jim hay hay wants to call his opponents terrorists and lock them up
tell us more
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If they are terrorists they're no longer political
Jun 7, 2022, 11:47 PM
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Opponents but America's enemies. Due process no longer applies. Terrorists don't have rights.
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110%er [9036]
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Re: If they are terrorists they're no longer political
Jun 7, 2022, 11:51 PM
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dang jimmy, save something for tomorrow
now jimmy says, to heck with due process
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Tell me where in the PATRIOT Act terrorist have rights?***
Jun 8, 2022, 7:26 AM
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Or domestic terrorists. I think you know who.***
Jun 8, 2022, 8:18 PM
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Re: Or domestic terrorists. I think you know who.***
Jun 8, 2022, 8:25 PM
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I would bet you could find a Drug dealer who killed with drugs and ruined more lives faster than a “domestic terrorist”. Oh, and they are using the money from drug sales to…Buy guns illegally!
Start here bro^ then hit me up about my guns!
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Right right right.
Jun 8, 2022, 8:30 PM
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Randy Weaver, David Koresh, and Donald Trump are all just innocent truth tellers.
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Re: Right right right.
Jun 8, 2022, 8:42 PM
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1.I don’t know anything about Randy weaver and don’t care to. 2. I only know Karesh from newspaper articles and don’t give a frack about him 3. Biden has lied more ( especially to the black community) in 40+ years of being a crooked politician than any president who has held office. It’s okay though! You like throwing recycled crooked politicians in places of power that make our country look like complete weak fools on a world wide stage! Enjoy it!
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Randy Weaver was Trump's handler in Russia and confirmed
Jun 8, 2022, 8:45 PM
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he arranged the p tapes. So, there's that little reality for you, groomer.
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Re: Gun ownership is not political expression.
Jun 8, 2022, 8:15 AM
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But I do think there is a case to be made that the NRA is a terror-sponsoring organization under the USA PATRIOT Act, if you read it.
Lmao. What a moron.
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Says the guy who doesn't know the PATRIOT Act like any
Jun 8, 2022, 8:23 AM
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good American does.
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Re: Gun ownership is not political expression.
Jun 8, 2022, 3:57 PM
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If that is true, the Patriot Act is cr@p. What text do you read that says that...I looked and can't find it.
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It's implied.***
Jun 8, 2022, 4:14 PM
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Just imagine how many drug-related deaths there would be if they were legal.
Jun 7, 2022, 11:04 PM
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Likewise, consider how many more gun-related deaths there are because they are legal.
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Did you know mushrooms are far and away the
Jun 7, 2022, 11:32 PM
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safest drug to use?
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Re: Did you know mushrooms are far and away the
Jun 7, 2022, 11:56 PM
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safest drug to use?
Then why don’t big pharma use it instead of opioids?
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Don't be dumb.***
Jun 8, 2022, 7:28 AM
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Re: Perhaps chemically... By the way, you REALLY don't want to
Jun 8, 2022, 7:29 AM
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(BTW, genuinely interested in hearing how this might not be true.)
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Probably never made it out of the shower... ;~)
Jun 8, 2022, 12:35 PM
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Ever been to Ixtlan...?
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All-In [27152]
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Okay so you don't actually know what you're talking about?
Jun 8, 2022, 12:40 PM
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Shame. I was interested.
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I use to grow'em, dry'em, make 'tea'. Been to Ixtlan, too.
Jun 8, 2022, 12:51 PM
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What's your resume look like?
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All-In [27152]
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So how exactly is that chart wrong about their safety?***
Jun 8, 2022, 1:00 PM
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Have you ever been around someone doing 'shrooms on a
Jun 8, 2022, 1:05 PM
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daily basis? Chemically, probably not a problem. Psychologically, very questionable.
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Is their lasting psychological damage, or is it just
Jun 8, 2022, 1:06 PM
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a risk to injury while on a trip?
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Spacey, dude, and I don't mean Kevin-like....***
Jun 8, 2022, 1:09 PM
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How long are we talking? Like just as they're coming down
Jun 8, 2022, 1:13 PM
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and a little thereafter as they sober up...or sort of like lasting, residual affects long after they've moved on from the lifestyle?
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No, I don't think it's lifelong... but I've seen some where
Jun 8, 2022, 1:21 PM
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it was more than just weeks.
My experiences for the most part were half a century ago... early '70s. Ixtlan was '76. Around '80 was probably my last.
However, I doubt the overall affects have changed much since then.
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If anything they've become more potent with better grow
Jun 8, 2022, 1:31 PM
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methods. But, yeah, whether chemical or just brain function changes over time (e.g. how social media rewaires your brain for reading habits and such), I can see how regular use can be unsafe -- though I suppose that is the same for almost all drugs, but especially those with a strong psychodellic component.
I am really excited about the therapeutic uses of psilocybin in microdoses for treatment of PTSD and depression. Really good to see in local areas the laws are starting to come around to the science and that they're really not a danger compared to alcohol/tobacco.
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Just a matter of which Mega Pharma gets the patents...***
Jun 8, 2022, 1:37 PM
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SOLOS sounds like a great PHARMA name if you want to get
Jun 8, 2022, 1:40 PM
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the cow dung rolling again.
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Go to Ixtlan and get the 10x stuff? Nah, no cartels for me.***
Jun 8, 2022, 1:45 PM
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Re: Since you asked...
Jun 8, 2022, 10:57 AM
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Wow...spiked in the mid to late 70's? Anything going on then that may be going on now?
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One point of clarification, which the CDC does not make
Jun 8, 2022, 9:48 AM
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any more clearly than you just did and for a similar reason.... those numbers of deaths are ALL DRUG OVERDOSES, period. Prescription, over the counter, LEGAL AND illegal. They then say 70% are opioids, but they do not differentiate between legal (prescription) and illegal opioids.
What we have is a meth and especially a fentanyl problem. That is what has mainly increased the most.
The link below gives you a lot more insight. When the opioid crisis began, all you heard about was Oxycontin, and other prescription opioids. And they were a problem. But the majority of the rise in deaths has come from fentanyl and meth. But they still lump everything into "opioid deaths". And the combinations are what is most deadly. Fentanyl is used as an additive to illegal drugs, AND legal drugs. The combination deaths with fentanyl are what is really a bad problem right now, or has made it worse.
https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates
As for priorities? I dunno. Covid has killed more Americans in two years than two decades of all drug overdoses, combined. Vehicle deaths are way up there too. And guns, well that's around 500,000-600,000 deaths, total since 2000. But of all the nasty things that have killed 500,000+ Americans since 2000, guns are the least regulated. That's just a fact. Drugs are either illegal, or heavily regulated. Cars are heavily regulated. Driving is highly regulated.
But, I guess since a well regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state (with no standing Army), I guess guns can't be regulated at all. When the Constitution was written, the United States didn't exist, and there was no standing army. As such, state and local militias were necessary (early on) for protection in the Revolutionary War. We fought and beat the British largely with personal firearms used by members of state militias (even if serving in the Continental Army, most soldiers were members of state militias. The US quickly established the first standing army AFTER the Constitution was written and the British were defeated, but even then it was not equipped. Today there are millions serving in the armed forces, who are well regulated and well armed, providing security of our free state. And even if there was a major war and a draft, you won't be taking your 12ga. shotgun into basic training or into combat, or even your AR-15. Nope. Prior to the Constitution, when we fought the British in the Revolutionary War, the war was fought by state militias, with citizens armed largely with their own personal firearms. State militias largely fought the British, even though they established a Continental Army, the Army was filled from the ranks of state militias and those soldiers brought their personal guns into the combat. George Washington served before the war in the Virginia militia.
You never see the full 2nd Amendment recited by gun rights folks. Because if they recited the entire sentence, and you crack a history book, it's game over. Even the National Guard today, the remnants of the original state militias, they are equipped with weapons far superior to private citizens. If you're deployed with the guard, you're not bringing your own personal guns.
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Wow, outstanding post!
Jun 8, 2022, 11:31 PM
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Thank you!
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The idea of the 2A as a collective right died,
Jun 8, 2022, 11:54 PM
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as a matter of law, with Heller in 2008. You can talk militias and what not as a rhetorical exercise (no matter how wrong you may be), but until Heller is reversed, SCOTUS definitely held it to be an individual right.
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