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At this point it’s like Wile E. Coyote and the Roadrunner.***
May 1, 2020, 8:58 PM
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Re: Hillbag Update: Benghazi Deposition in May
May 2, 2020, 12:52 AM
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And? It will add up to nothing at this stage.
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she Probably deleted a bunch of emails to protect herself
May 2, 2020, 7:28 AM
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At this point it doesn’t really matter.
Anyone who thinks she’s crooked Hilary will still think she’s crooked Hilary
Anyone who sides with her will continue to side with her
Water is wet
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I like this....you all know she’s guilty of something!
May 2, 2020, 7:18 AM
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Re: I like this....you all know she’s guilty of something!
May 2, 2020, 8:24 AM
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I do not like Hillary. I sat out the 2016 election, in fact, because trying to choose between Hillary and Trump felt like choosing between hemlock or cyanide.
But Benghazi? Benghazi was a fairly typical embassy brushfire kerfluffle and it has always felt largely manufactured by the GOP and then used mercilessly as a straw dog, with shaky supposition stacked atop weak innuendo stacked upon plain old-fashioned cow manure. Every time I hear some Trumpite say: "but Benghazi!", what I hear, in fact, is Whataboutism joining forces with a callous partisan disregard for actual truth that's become kind of the hallmark of the modern GOP...which is exactly what drove guys like me out of the party over the last few years.
That still doesn't make me a Democrat - I refuse, frankly! - but my disgust for these incessant partisan skirmishes are making me ever more convinced both the Democrat and GOP parties need to fall and America is best-served by getting rid of this two-party atrocity we've got going that mean derpish reductive tactics like Benghazi actually work.
Benghazi was weak sauce to begin with, and it happened in 2012. To say it's utterly irrelevant now and still being used as a straw dog more than eight years later to distract very stupid people from current events seems...obvious, sorry.
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How did you fall so far behind?
May 2, 2020, 9:02 AM
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This isn't about Hillary. Durham is investigating the FBI's misconduct during the events around the 2016 POTUS election. Hillary just happened to have been a small part of that being that she paid for the Steele report which was the foundation of the Russian collusion hoax.
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Re: How did you fall so far behind?
May 2, 2020, 9:26 AM
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The Russian collusion thing was never found to be a hoax. FYI. We will never know. I think it was probably nothing, but we really don't know.
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Oculus Spirit [94284]
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It's called faith.
May 2, 2020, 9:51 AM
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If anyone has faith that Trump colluded with Russia to fix the election I can respect it. However, they must admit that neither of the four investigations into Russia found that any American conspired with Russia therefor their belief is of faith not evidence. Being that it's impossible to prove something didn't happen the burden of proof is on those who believe it did.
None of that has anything to do with Durham's investigation. Durham is looking for criminal activity within the Federal Government during the collusion investigations.
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Re: It's called faith.
May 2, 2020, 10:00 AM
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I don't think they did either, but who knows what was said behind closed doors. You don't know and I don't know. Mueller was asked if he could say that there was no collusion. He said he could not. He said there wasnt any solid evidence to show there was either. You have no earthly idea and nor do I.
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Re: How did you fall so far behind?
May 2, 2020, 10:10 PM
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The Russian collusion thing was never found to be a hoax. FYI. We will never know. I think it was probably nothing, but we really don't know.
But that's the problem, most people never read the Mueller Report. No Obstruction, no Collussion is the exact opposite of what the report said. It did point out over 100 examples of collusion and 10 examples of obstruction.
But nobody read the f**king thing. Most just assume there was nothing to it because Barr said there wasn't. Even Meuller called Barr out on his misrepresentation...but to no avail.
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Re: How did you fall so far behind?
May 2, 2020, 12:55 PM
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You keep saying "Russian collusion hoax".
It was not a hoax. It was an investigation, and one that largely resulted in Trump being cleared by the very FBI he was villifying - and which you faithful partisans continue to villify.
I say "largely" because both Trump and the Russians apparently tried to collude but were too incompetent to do it. To quote Jared Kushner: "Collude with the Russians? We can't even collude with each other."
Regardless, at that point, it was all over but the shouting. The fact that the GOP continues to shout at the FBI long after the matter is essentially resolved shows what a complete idiot Trump is...because he's using current political capital to keep on fighting - and re-hashing - yesterday's battles.
You don't "win" anything that way, but if you wanna persist, have at it. But there's a reason successful empire-builders in the past always knew when to make peace. The fact that Trump and his faithful are utterly unable to do that means all that's being accomplished is to continue to add to the ever-growing list of enemies.
Good luck with that.
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How you can ingore the fact that the FBI spied on...
May 2, 2020, 2:24 PM
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Carter Page without justification then set Flynn up with a perjury trap. That is not how the greatest law enforcement agency in the world should behave.
What you don't like is that they are under the same microscope they used to examine Trump and his campaign. Somehow you think the Justice Department, State Department and other bureaus should be full time democrats rather than apolitical.
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Re: How you can ingore the fact that the FBI spied on...
May 2, 2020, 3:00 PM
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This is why I don't bother talking to you.
Your thinking is so distorted you can't even get your head around the fact that I am not a Democrat.
You can't hear a word I say, so I don't even bother. Which is pretty much what the world always does to reactionary idiots who make of themselves impassable objects; it just finds ways around them...and then leaves them behind.
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Re: How did you fall so far behind?
May 2, 2020, 10:13 PM
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You keep saying "Russian collusion hoax".
It was not a hoax. It was an investigation, and one that largely resulted in Trump being cleared by the very FBI he was villifying - and which you faithful partisans continue to villify.
I say "largely" because both Trump and the Russians apparently tried to collude but were too incompetent to do it. To quote Jared Kushner: "Collude with the Russians? We can't even collude with each other."
Regardless, at that point, it was all...
Good luck with that.
Don't you find it stunning that the FBI, who re-opened the Clinton email investigation 11 days before the election, which clearly harmed her, seems to be public enemy #1 to Trump and his supporters? It's a stunning irony. Mindless and meaningless.
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Re: I like this....you all know she’s guilty of something!
May 3, 2020, 12:13 PM
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She issued a stand down order for US response and extraction forces that were only an hour away. The outcome would have been different had she acted. Instead, 4 Americans died, including our ambassador. The dismissal of her case by Comey reeks of a coverup. The relatives of the dead want justice and I hope they finally get it. Hillary’s been hiding behind lawyers for years, but not anymore.
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Oculus Spirit [94284]
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Relax, democrats.
May 2, 2020, 8:57 AM
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This isn't about getting hillary. It's about fault with the FBI's investigation of her server and the corruption which provided her an escape route. This Justice Department isn't going after her.
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So Hillary is getting some quality press time soon?
May 2, 2020, 10:22 AM
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Not sure why anyone would want to provide her with a platform for a public reemergence now but smart people gonna smart.
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