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Holding obsession
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Holding obsession


Oct 22, 2022, 12:24 PM

You guys really need to look up the definition of holding.

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I can assure you a handful of jersey is in the definition.***


Oct 22, 2022, 12:25 PM



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Re: I can assure you a handful of jersey is in the definition.***


Oct 22, 2022, 12:26 PM

Actually, no, it's not.

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So...


Oct 22, 2022, 12:34 PM

Holding is called when a player at any position on offense holds a defender and impedes them from moving. While “holding” of the jersey is generally tolerated along the inside of a player's pads along the offensive and defensive lines, anything at or outside of the shoulders is likely to be flagged.


At or outside of the shoulders is holding. That is happening.

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Re: I can assure you a handful of jersey is in the definition.***


Oct 22, 2022, 1:00 PM [ in reply to Re: I can assure you a handful of jersey is in the definition.*** ]

It is in the rule that you can not grasp the other players equipment. You must use the same rule book as these officials. Where can I find it?

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Re: I can assure you a handful of jersey is in the definition.***


Oct 22, 2022, 12:27 PM [ in reply to I can assure you a handful of jersey is in the definition.*** ]




And pulling the handful of jersey in the opposite direction as the defender is running! Yes! According to the NCAA and NFL rule book, that is holding!

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Oct 22, 2022, 12:26 PM

Open your eyes man! Geez, all over the field!

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Re: Holding obsession


Oct 22, 2022, 12:27 PM

I'm sure you will catch a lot of heat, but you are correct. There is was too much crying about the referees.

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Yep


Oct 22, 2022, 12:31 PM

The ref whining is weak. Most didn’t play football

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Or just watch Cuse grabbing jersey and using arms to


Oct 22, 2022, 12:28 PM

restrain our linemen and rushers as they are getting around them.

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Re: Holding obsession


Oct 22, 2022, 12:28 PM

Generally I agree. However, the reason we got the face mask penalty was a brutal hold by the LT. If he’s not literally dragging Murphy backwards by his shoulder pads and one arm, he easily tackles the QB with two hands and there’s no face mask involved. Should have been offsetting.

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Re: Holding obsession


Oct 22, 2022, 12:30 PM

Here is the definition:

Use his hands or arms to materially restrict an opponent or alter the defender’s path or angle of pursuit. It is a foul regardless of whether the blocker’s hands are inside or outside the frame of the defender’s body. Material restrictions include but are not limited to:

grabbing or tackling an opponent;
hooking, jerking, twisting, or turning him; or
pulling him to the ground.

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Our guys hold too…


Oct 22, 2022, 12:51 PM

Besides you don’t think Wilkins and those guys got held. Just man up and play.

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Re: Holding obsession


Oct 22, 2022, 1:02 PM

KJ Henry was pulled down from behind with two hands pulling the jersey. Would that count?

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