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Re: Any truth to this?
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:07 PM
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I think Bret will confirm that it could be true because he made a post recently that hinted at this and lamented this part of the portal.
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Thanks, that was interesting.***
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Re: Any truth to this?
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:08 PM
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Yep, hopefully Bret will chime in. It’s a shame if it’s true.
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Live by the Portal/NIL
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:09 PM
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DIE by it. It's gonna get FAR worse before it gets better.
It's The Way Of The World
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Re: Any truth to this?
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:11 PM
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I hope it’s true
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Orange Blooded [2854]
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The players are drunk on power right now and think they can set the market. Very
Dec 16, 2023, 9:11 PM
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arrogant of him to think he is worth over $500K as a backup.
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Hard to tell.
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:15 PM
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First, this poster is the one who was the source of all the rumors of FSU leaving the ACC for the B1G last week.
2nd, he is wrong in this sense - Patrick Payton tweeted that he intended to enter the portal last week. He never did. A couple of days later he took down his tweet. As of now, he has not entered the portal.
Speculation is one of two things happened.
1. FSU collective offered him a deal for 2024. He thought he was worth more so he said he would leave if they didn't meet his demand. Then, he checked around and found out he wasn't worth as much as he though he was. So, he decided to stay.
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2. FSU collective agreed to raise their offer to him so he stayed.
Rodney Hill apparently has entered the portal, but I'm not sure about that.
Speculation is one of two things happened.
1. He looked around at the RB room and sees a crowded room where he will be getting some of the carries, but not as much as he can get if he goes somewhere where he is clearly #1 guy.
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2. He asked for an amount to stay at FSU and FSU didn't think he was worth the price so they wished him well as he sought employment elsewhere.
I have no idea what is going on with anybody when it comes to negotiations between players and collectives. I'm only telling you what I am hearing from folks who should know more about it than me, and even they admit they are just guessing.
It would be similar to someone speculating on "the real reason" Mukuba left Clemson and signed with Texas. Lots of speculation, but nobody really knows except the people who actually did the negotiations and made the decision.
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General comment about Portal/NIL.
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:26 PM
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In a few years there will probably be some sort of sanity return to college football. Not a lot, but at least more than we have now.
But, until then, the portal/NIL situation is making recruiting/roster management more absurd than the Hall of Mirrors at the carnival. I have no idea how any coach can have any idea of the proper way to manage it.
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The rationale behind behind the new portal/NIL combination...
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:43 PM
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was conceived in selfish foolishness and put in place by fools who have no clue that they are risking the viability of college football with this disatrous nonsense. They put the children in charge and now it's candy and ice cream for dinner. Selfish children. Fools who will run off the very people they need to make their success matter.
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It's destroying college football. I am not wishing this to be true because of
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it being FSU. I am wishing it to be true because the more this current disgusting state of this sport blows up, the better.
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Re: General comment about Portal/NIL.
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I say that the NIL with the portal working hand in hand, it has become a malignant tumor for the patient, College FB, and if it isn't delt with quick by the Dr, NCAA, college FB may have if lucky, 5-10 years left before it dies!!!
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With this chaos - 5 years is probably the MAX***
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I think Makuba just wanted to go home to Austin.
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Re: Any truth to this?
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:18 PM
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Rumor has it that Bret himself will write a personal check to keep whoever he feels is worth keeping. If not, he’ll let them walk.
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I assure you, that rumor is false.
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:28 PM
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I'm just a poor retired math teacher. If those kids had to count on my check book they'd be playing JV ball and being coached by an esteemed T-net contributor.
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Re: Any truth to this?
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Dec 16, 2023, 9:34 PM
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I can only hope there is some truth to this and at same time I hope portal jumpers see this only to realize the grass isnt always greener!
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Who saw this coming??????***
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Dec 16, 2023, 10:01 PM
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Re: Who saw this coming??????***
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Dec 16, 2023, 10:38 PM
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Me, Myself, and I knew that without a doubt that something like what is happening now in college was going to get very ugly without any hard set rules with the Portal and the NIL working hand in hand with the schools that has the best opportunities for bringing the huge checks of NIL money, and then with the portal working without any deterrence that would limit the amount of transfers these elite players have for chasing the bigger NIL money!!!
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Re: Any truth to this?
Dec 16, 2023, 10:06 PM
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Sure the internet only allows true stuff.
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So sad what has happened to
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College football.it truly is over. It is one thing to get paid and quite another to just have full on greed that shows that none of these players really care who they play for. They are taking the sport that was there for them and destroying it. Once the fans give up in it, there will be nothing for the players. NFL or nothing. No free education, no college memories. And there was no leadership to guide it through this. Just pure greed all the way up to the conference commisioners, networks and schools.
Opt outs, transfers. The transfers were supposed to be for players who sought more playing time, not NIL shopping. The average fan knows its over, but does not want to admit to himself or herself yet.
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It's difficult to fathom that a nation with the amount of
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highly educated citizens, as we boast, could have allowed these issues to emerge and thrive.
We've taken a sport we love and turned it into a grotesque monster conceived and nurtured from the nether regions, thereby ushering in chaos, confusion and consternation egged on by cupidity to the point that passionate fans are having doubts about the game itself.
Meanwhile, more openminded folks are considering the Ivies' stance: no bowls, no participation in the chase for titles. Their fans simply enjoy age-old rivalries ten times each season, after which they go home and enjoy other interests.
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I opt for this route - TRULY - let Clemson DOWN-league
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Dec 17, 2023, 5:00 AM
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Don’t play this NIL PORTAL game. Walk away from it.
Take the game BACK to what it was intended from it’s inception.
There is NO FUN for alumni, fans, or most of the players for that matter with the state of the money grap between teams.
The start of the season will become a fan attitude of “well, who did they buy, convince, swindle, manipulate, coerce, or black male to field a team and how far can they go?”
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Re: Any truth to this?
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Dec 17, 2023, 6:27 AM
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That is wild if true.
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This is why you shouldnt play the NIL game to a heavy
Dec 17, 2023, 8:51 AM
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degree. They take your money and still leave. Screw this entitled crap!
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Re: Any truth to this?
Dec 17, 2023, 8:57 AM
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NIL was intended to center on legitimate brand sponsorships for student athletes, not merely facilitating player payments through collectives. It's about forming authentic partnerships with recognized brands. This is not NIL.
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