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And then there were......none.
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And then there were......none.


Dec 1, 2022, 9:58 AM
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https://twitter.com/FDA_Drug_Info/status/1598041545122664448

FDA revokes use of the last working mAB treatment for covid. They cite the fact that it is ineffective against BQ variants, which are what is becoming dominant currently. Also, California is seeing a spike in cases, up 57% in two weeks. Hospitalizations in the state are up about 150% in the same time frame, and are the third highest of the "pandemic". Last 30 days BQ variants have more than doubled in California and are presumed to be dominant there now. BQ will likely be the winter wave, and that's not good because it's perhaps the most immune evasive variant to date, and is on par with the original SARS. No prior covid variants confer any significant immunity to it, nor do any monoclonal antibodies. This will impact the hospitalization rate, and already is in places.

The FDA lists three drugs approved for treatment currently. ONE of those drugs, though, is impacting the evolution of the virus greatly, and may end up causing a mess. Some say it should be revoked as well. The jury is still out on it, but the drug is molnupiravir. There are indications this drug is causing a boost in evolution with the virus evolving rapidly to defeat this drug, based on preferred mutations seen in recent sequences, which are being found on a scale not seen before, and many think this drug/treatment is responsible.

Won't go into any other "news", but it appears BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 are going to produce a winter wave, in the US.

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your efforts are wasted in here. these people don't


Dec 1, 2022, 10:35 AM
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believe anything doctors or scientists say, much less the FDA.

They take their advice from nameless internet crackpots and get their covid drugs from veterinarians.

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100%


Dec 1, 2022, 10:53 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjnfkFAR5uw

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were you born with a low IQ or


Dec 1, 2022, 10:55 AM
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did you have some brain injury?

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There's a compelling argument.***


Dec 1, 2022, 10:56 AM
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I assume someone with an IQ greater than Forrest Gump


Dec 1, 2022, 11:10 AM
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would realize that the empirical evidence from pfizer's vaccine trials related to the original variant. The video you posted is certainly from that period.

so, again, were you born this way or did Momma Murph drop you years ago? Perhaps whilst your wife was pegging you fell from the bed and hit your head?

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Ah yes, the vaccine trials.


Dec 1, 2022, 11:12 AM
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Lots of good info in there.

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You know, it's interesting. The disdain, and distrust of


Dec 1, 2022, 11:56 AM
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Fauci AND of the CDC, is completely bipartisan now. Literally no one trusts them, and for completely different reasons.

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I don't disdain or distrust Fauci nor the CDC.


Dec 1, 2022, 2:20 PM
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I don't even know why I'm supposed to hate Fauci or the CDC.

When it comes to novel viruses and pandemics, our initial assessments almost always require correction or modification as we gather more information. Our government and all significant governments around the world worked as quickly as they could to understand the virus and to fight it. It didn't help that we reduced funding for pandemic preparedness for years.

It kinda reminds me of that big blackout in 2003. Everyone was outraged as to how it could happen and it turned out we had a dilapidated and underfunded power grid. All the fury and subsequent pressure to update our infrastructure vanished as soon as the lights came back on. People are really ####### stupid.

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I do. Have for many years now. Since 2009 and Swine Flu.


Dec 6, 2022, 10:28 AM
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Back then Fauci was on TV saying masks don't help. They don't work. Begging people to not use masks. And no one did. And Swine Flu, although it made me perhaps the sickest I've ever been, didn't kill many people. BUT, when I went to my doc with a 105 fever, difficulty breathing, and double-pneumonia, during the week Swine Flu peaked in SC, my doctor came in and for the first time ever, I saw him wearing a mask. I immediately held his feet to the fire. I asked why he was wearing a mask, Anthony Fauci was just on TV saying they don't help. That's when my doctor told me the truth. He said there is a long-established medical protocol that if there is ever a pandemic, it is essential for medical workers to have ample PPE to treat patients, and if everyone runs out and buys masks and gloves, we won't have enough for hospitals, doctors, and nurses.

FFWD to 2020 and covid hits. Fauci runs to the nearest camera and says masks don't work. But this time, unlike Swine Flu, it's a real pandemic. They ramp up PPE in China, and once ample supply is established in hospitals, Fauci runs back to the TV cameras and says everyone should wear masks. At that point they realized the mistake. If you have too many people sick in the community who need medical/hospital care, all the PPE in the world for medical staff matters little if they can't possibly treat everyone.

That is the mask lie, and the reason for it, and Fauci later admitted the exact same thing. Unfortunately covid is the most transmissible respiratory virus (in humans) ever studied by modern science. It takes an N95 mask, AND everyone using them, to make a real impact on transmission. If 50% of people don't wear masks, even an N95 mask will do little good.

Our initial assessment of covid was contrary to MANY studies China released early on. And to date, those Chinese studies have proven to be correct far more than the CDC. The science already said vaccines would not stop transmission, even before the vaccines were released. The science already said herd immunity was not going to happen, long before they gave up on that idea. The science said the virus mutates (there were 13 variants circulating in Wuhan in December of 2019), and we were told it was slow to mutate (to prop up the vaccine lies and promises). It took the CDC 8 MONTHS to admit covid was airborne and an aerosol, after China already confirmed that in multiple studies.

So yeah, when scientists from China prove more truthful than the CDC, well, anyway, believe what you want. But I explained exactly why I don't trust Fauci or the CDC. Heck, this isn't even a pandemic IMO. Every time I hear that word I cringe. Omicron is a different virus than what went through Wuhan. It is as different (more actually) as Wuhan was to 2003 SARS1. Yet the WHO labeled Omicron a "variant of concern" and tacked it onto the Wuhan-covid family tree, even though they couldn't connect it to the Wuhan-covid family tree. Omicron uses a different physical mechanism to infect cells from Wuhan-covid. It's THAT different. But by making Omicron just another VOC, you can keep the idea in your head this is a pandemic, when it isn't. The proper way to think about covid is to think "influenza 2.0". The influenza virus is not a pandemic. It's been around for centuries. Only a novel variant of influenza is labeled a "pandemic", but influenza, the virus family, marches on forever. Omicron/covid is the same. We've had 4 pandemic covid variants, Wuhan, Delta, Alpha, and Omicron. Influenza had to start at some time (before modern medicine), and I imagine it evolved much the same way as covid is now. Every early influenza variant, was a (flu) pandemic in itself. Over time we saw all the influenza virus could dish out, and the novel variants became few and far between. But flu kills tens of thousands of people, still, every year, without being a pandemic.

Pandemics end. They end when our immune systems learn how to fight off a virus, and stop transmission. It takes time, but there is a pattern (waves). But there are many viruses that can not be stopped simply because humans lack the biology to beat them. The common cold viruses (Rhinovirus, Adenovirus, etc., influenza) there's a long list. All employ similar tricks to trick the immune system just enough to allow transmission, even with ample antibodies, T cells, whatever else. You just don't get sick, or AS SICK. Covid is one of these viruses. In fact, the trick these forever viruses use, covid does that trick to a higher degree than any other respiratory virus ever studied. Per China, in early 2020. And it's correct. If a human cell is infected with a virus, and it can not release MHC1 (interferons), then there is no "immunity". If a cell can not signal that it is infected, all the antibodies, T cells, vaccines, and whatever else, can't respond (quickly enough). This is how "forever" viruses remain in circulation forever. We eventually become "immune" to them through evolution and a better response to the ILLNESS, but that immunity is to the infection, not transmission. This is why influenza is still around, the common cold is still around, and covid will be for just as long. And ultimately why covid is not a pandemic. All of this was known if you read what Chinese scientists released in 2020.

Now the focus turns to the impact of the virus, long-term. Again, there's plenty of science on this as well. From 2020, and BEFORE vaccines. Heck, there's plenty of science from 2003, 2009, 2012, all showing similar long-term impacts from 2003 SARS as we're seeing with covid19. And while everyone is mad at the vaccines causing myocarditis, they summarily ignore the same from SARS survivors, MERS survivors, and covid survivors. Anyone remember in 2020 when Ohio State and the Big 10 were the lone holdouts, and said they were not going to play football in 2020? Anyone remember why? Of course not. And now there are 9 dead children in the UK, all died from Strap A, a normally mild infection. That's twice as many as usually die in the UK from Strep A, and this isn't even the peak Strep season yet, there. 50% of some classes in local schools had children out, not from covid, but from colds, influenza, RSV, etc. More sick kids missing school now than ever missed classes with covid. More children have been hospitalized from covid/RSV/flu/adenovirus, etc. than the past 10 years, and it's not even the peak of winter colds. The CDC added a new color to their ILI charts/map. There was no precedent for adding another color until this year, there are so many ILI doctor visits. My kids couldn't see their pediatrician for three days. Remember that trick covid uses, the same one colds and flu use, but covid does that trick better than any known human respiratory virus, yeah, that trick.....it damages the immune system, for many months (at least). During that time, people/children/everyone is more susceptible to severe illness from common viruses that are traditionally NOT severe. Bacterial and fungal infections as well.

And now, like clockwork, someone in Washington and/or the CDC have done some economic math on the back of a napkin, and shazam......CDC recommends people wear masks again. Yeah, I have disdain. Not so much hate, but disdain. Definitely distrust. And there are some on the right who distrust Fauci for completely different reasons. It is impressive though, the bipartisan distrust of Fauci and the CDC. Amazing how almost everyone, regardless of politics, can think so poorly of a bureaucrat AND a government agency. It's really unprecedented. I see clearly how they have downplayed, and lied about the virus, while others see how they over-reacted.

At least in the UK, they're finally, cautiously, releasing some data.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/selfreportedlongcovidandlabourmarketoutcomesuk2022/selfreportedlongcovidandlabourmarketoutcomesuk2022


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Sobeit.


Dec 1, 2022, 10:54 AM [ in reply to your efforts are wasted in here. these people don't ]
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I didn't even get into the "airborne AIDS" theory.

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