I thought the illegals already do the jobs others wont?

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Re: If you're wondering what would happen if you actually shut down immigration.

Jan 24, 2024, 9:26 PM

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The mutual values of illegal immigration to both the Democrat wing and the RINO wing of the establishment’s Uniparty are:

(1). Distortion of the economy in ways that are advantageous to large corporations and concurrently disadvantageous to their small business competitors.
(2). Easier control of the (distorted) economy by the Uniparty, a la the National Socialist economic model (not referencing the racial discrimination aspects of the Nazi party) re: State coordination of the operation of private enterprises, including but not limited to products manufactured, quantity of output, employment / employee hiring practices, environmental practices, and remittances to the State.

The State’s ability to train and deploy the bureaucrats to monitor compliance of a (relatively speaking) small number of businesses is far easier than in the current USA economy, in which a huge number of independent small companies. Furthermore, the State’s ability to monitor the private activities of a relatively small numbers of the high level managers employed by large corporations is much easier than monitoring each of the many millions of owners / high level managers at small companies.

Distortion of the economy and how / why illegal entry immigration benefits SOME of those large corporations more than their smaller competitors:

Big corporations have the budget for professional managers to run a department to acquire illegal entry labor and deploy them where needed for their operations. Will provide just two examples.

HOTEL INDUSTRY: Witness major hoteliers such as Disney, Marriott, Hilton, IHG (Holiday Inn & others) etc. These outfits teem with non-English speakers of various races for their maid service and laundry operations.
On the other hand, as most of us have seen when lodging at a private hotelier / family owned motel, the maid service is commonly populated with English speakers.
(*). Thus, there exists a favorable work ethic and ‘loyal employee’ factor for the hotelier which uses illegal entry immigrant labor: This demographic of employee lacks the broad knowledge about how / where to seek higher paying employment elsewhere. Small hoteliers, which lack the networking abilities to acquire such labor that abound with the large hoteliers, thus suffer from higher costs in this area than the big hoteliers.

SPECIALTY AGRICULTURE (fruits and vegetables): Big outfits have long utilized illegal entry immigrants as cheaper and harder working alternatives to English speaker ‘legal’ labor. Small outfits frequently do not have much illegal entry labor.

(?). How does this ‘help the sad illegal entry immigrants’ policy distort, and thus harm, the economy? Here is how.

Native born & naturalized (I.e., legalized) labor’s ability to negotiate higher wages and better working conditions is undercut by the presence of illegal entry labor (which has minimal ability to figure out how to ‘negotiate’ for the higher wages / better work conditions).

As witnessed from recent Congressional hearings on the topic of illegal entry labor, Nancy Pelosi and Hank Johnson (D- GA) decried their concerns about who would pick the vegetables that they themselves eat if illegal labor disappeared.
SIDEBAR: Pelosi’s and Johnson’s comments lay bare the fallacy that Democrats ‘care about the little guy.’ Either Pelosi nor Johnson thought to be advocates for letting the marketplace decide the appropriate wage rate + working conditions that would make the fruit picking jobs attractive enough to be held by native born / naturalized Americans. Quasi slavery is all good with these hypocrites and those who support their values.

(*). What are the near term consequences of stopping the flow of illegal entry immigrant labor? Here goes.

Profits for large hotels, vacation destinations (Disney’s theme parks, large sports venues, convention centers, etc) would decline sharply because of higher cost -&- under utilization of capacity (due to lower demand as a result of higher lodging & restaurant food prices for their customers). Fruit and vegetable prices for American grown goods would go up; demand for the more expensive veggies and fruits would fall, and be replaced in part by cheaper varieties of veggies and fruits. There are other consequences.

(?). What are the longer term benefits for stopping the flow of illegal entry immigrant labor?

Innovation would fix the problem, at least with respect to specialty agriculture.
Remember slavery and de-seeding of cotton? The invention of the cotton gin make slave labor obsolete, thus reducing the demand for slave labor.
Remember how automated cotton picking machines made the need for slaves to pick cotton obsolete?
(*). Here goes that old saying … necessity is the mother of invention. America’s fruit / vegetable growers have become lazy with regard to demanding technical alternatives to the manual process of human labor. As long as the high availability of illegal entry labor enables America’s fruit / vegetable growers to remain disinterested in technological alternatives to human labor, the status quo will persist.

(???). Does anyone recognize the moral imperative to let the legal system work for all categories of worker, and not just the middle class / upper class of society that reaps the benefit of cheaper goods while the lower class of unskilled labor is deprived of the opportunity to improve their ability to work … at standard legal USA labor rates (or even higher rates, per marketplace factors that adjust labor rates)?

I thought that the Democrat party was the party of the ‘little guy’ … looking out for their interests while the RINO pigs exploited the little guy. What happened?

(***). The fallacy of the Dem party’s ’looking out for the little’ guy is being exposed. Working class labor continues to flee the Dem party, and these workers are smart enough to avoid the RINOs. Lacks and Latinos are recognizing the hypo tidy of the Dem party, and (rightfully) distrust RINO Republicans.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why the ‘populist’ movement, so reviled by the establishment Uniparty, has coalesced around Trump. He’s the first powerful voice for this, and he’s not afraid to take on the establishment.

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