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Trump could win on appeal
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Feb 18, 2024, 9:05 AM
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if this trial was in a banana republic.
If you think he is going to win on appeal, you are 100% wrong. He might get the dollar amount reduced. But there is no way he is going to get the verdict reversed. The evidence is unique to the trump organization, voluminous, ironclad and insurmountable.
The fat orange clown is guilty. His legal team knew he is guilty. They were just waiting to hear the dollar amount.
His actions were not typical, this was not a case of stretching the truth a little bit on a loan application. These were blatant lies constituting fraud. If you believe otherwise, you have been conned by Fox or Newsmax or some online clown masquerading as a journalist.
Folks that say there is no victim in this case do not understand the US banking system, the secondary mortgage market, financial regulations, foreign direct investment and oh by the way ……. ethics.
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Everybody got paid. Nobody lost money. The fines levied are the real fraud.***
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Feb 18, 2024, 9:10 AM
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Re: Everybody got paid. Nobody lost money. The fines levied are the real fraud.***
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Feb 18, 2024, 9:14 AM
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I have no doubt that Trump is a scum bag to do business with, but it just seems a little odd that he has been doing business in NYC for over half a century and this is just now an issue. Uh huh...
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Letitia James campaigned on 'prosecutorial abuse of T-Rump'. Documented.
Feb 18, 2024, 9:33 AM
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Now they want us to believe that the banks gave him special rates on loans and that denied other borrowers from getting loans.
Not only is she the NY AG, now she's wanting to tell banks who they get to loan their money to and at what rate regardless of the risk.
That seems akin to FINANCIAL FASCISM.
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Re: Letitia James campaigned on 'prosecutorial abuse of T-Rump'. Documented.
Feb 18, 2024, 9:50 AM
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Seems odd that these lenders didn't have an independent appraisal on collateralized commercial property and just took his word for the value of these properties.
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Re: Everybody got paid. Nobody lost money. The fines levied are the real fraud.***
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Feb 18, 2024, 9:33 AM
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This did not just become an issue an issue, now or recently.
US banks stopped lending to Donald Trump in 2001 cuz they became aware of his fraudulent business practices.
He has been charged criminally and civilly many times before this particular trial.
The dude is a fraud machine and a lawsuit machine.
He’s been a con artist for decades. Anyone in banking and real estate in New York City has known this since the 80s.
So when he wanted to get in the White House, he knew he had to abandon the liberal elites he had been working with for decades and had to find some suckers that would vote for him. So went to rural Americans and told the folks he was gonna make their lives great again.
And now you say, why did this just become an issue?
Absolutely hilarious! LOL!
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Re: Everybody got paid. Nobody lost money. The fines levied are the real fraud.***
Feb 18, 2024, 9:40 AM
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So you believe the state New York has been neglectful until just recently?
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Re: Everybody got paid. Nobody lost money. The fines levied are the real fraud.***
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Feb 18, 2024, 4:28 PM
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I'll refer you to people who speak in slogans and memes. I think that would be more on your intellectual level.
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Don't need to. Got a loan and everybody got paid. Done deal.***
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Feb 18, 2024, 9:40 AM
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Re: Don't need to. Got a loan and everybody got paid. Done deal.***
Feb 19, 2024, 10:56 AM
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You are confirming you don’t understand the banking system, secondary mortgage market and the value of financial regulations.
Financial regulations and laws are essential to all of us, left right gullible and informed.
If you have a bank account or a 401k and you understand the secondary mortgage market you want trump to be charged and convicted for the fraud he has committed.
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The banks MADE money. They testified on T-Rump's behalf. "Understand" that.***
Feb 19, 2024, 11:06 AM
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Re: Trump could win on appeal
Feb 18, 2024, 9:12 AM
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Who brought the lawsuit and where is the money going?
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Re: Trump could win on appeal
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Feb 18, 2024, 9:35 AM
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Seriously?
Get a hobby find something else to do.
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Re: Trump could win on appeal
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Feb 18, 2024, 9:38 AM
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So you don't want to answer that.
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These commies have no idea how business negotiations work.***
Feb 18, 2024, 9:43 AM
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Re: These commies have no idea how business negotiations work.***
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Feb 19, 2024, 11:03 AM
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This case doesn’t have much to do with business negotiations.
This case is based on fraud committed by Trump and his organization.
Seriously, if you guys don’t understand what happened in the trump organization and don’t understand the case, stop making yourself look stupid posting this nonsense about there being no victim, business negotiations, who filed the lawsuit, etc.
LMAO !
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You licked what?***
Feb 19, 2024, 11:07 AM
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It is strange they are saying he defrauded banks
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Feb 18, 2024, 10:43 AM
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And investors but the fine is going to the NY treasury.
Why wouldn't it go to the businesses he ripped off? Maybe I don't understand the banking business.
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Re: It is strange they are saying he defrauded banks
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Feb 18, 2024, 10:58 AM
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In this case the state brought the lawsuit and not the financial institutions. This wasn't a case of a regulatory agency levying a fine either. I'm not even trying to say that the ruling is illegitimate, but it just seems odd that the state would have just fairly recently brought this lawsuit.
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When ~80% of what was cited were beyond the statute of limitations...***
Feb 19, 2024, 11:08 AM
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Did you stay at a holiday inn express last night?***
Feb 18, 2024, 9:31 AM
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Re: Did you stay at a holiday inn express last night?***
Feb 18, 2024, 9:36 AM
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I’m gradually switching from Holiday Inn to Hampton Inn.
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There's no evidence, and no victim. These trials are commie nonsense.
Feb 18, 2024, 9:41 AM
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But I don't think he'll win any court cases in NY. The truth doesn't matter to the commies that run that place.
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I believe that it'll end up in the NY Supreme Court and they'll have an epiphany
Feb 18, 2024, 9:58 AM
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This kind of selective partisan prosecutorial abuse can work both ways. They don't want to mess up their current gig.
Wait till some 'red state' AGs start bringing frivolous suits against their cherished Wall Street banks. Those CEOs will have input with NY SC.
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Re: I believe that it'll end up in the NY Supreme Court and they'll have an epiphany
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Feb 19, 2024, 11:00 AM
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selective partisan prosecutorial abuse?????
You are smoking really bad stuff.
This is fraud.
The dollar amount might be reduced, but this has zero chance of being reversed on appeal unless somebody uncovers some kind of bizarre technicality. But on the merits of the case, this will not be overturned.
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Exactly. He will cycle through lawyers like he always does.
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Feb 19, 2024, 1:10 PM
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The honest and ethical ones will remove themselves from his legal defense team, and he will promote and/or hire new lawyers who will say what he wants them to say.
Lather, rinse, and repeat.
All the while, Trump will maintain that this is an injustice and that he is being unfairly targeted because people are out to get him. Such a martyr!
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Says 'The Fraud'...***
Feb 19, 2024, 11:22 AM
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You keep posting, but lack substance...
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Feb 19, 2024, 11:23 AM
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what am I a "fraud" about exactly, you nutjob?
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Trump be committin crimes lik
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Feb 18, 2024, 11:04 AM
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Re: Trump could win on appeal
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Feb 18, 2024, 11:22 AM
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All the loans were paid back. You really hate orange man don’t you? It’s gonna be hilarious when he wins the election. All you need to know to know the judge was crooked is a valued mar a lago at 18 million when it is easily worth 500 million on the low end. Go look up real estate in palm beach. You’re a willfully ignorant person.
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Re: Trump could win on appeal
Feb 19, 2024, 11:10 AM
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Nope. You are wrong. Look at the year in which trump claimed that value. Not even close.
Trumps defense was that nobody was injured and there was no victim. They knew they committed fraud so they resorted to the weak ineffective defense of no victim no harm no foul.
Trump defense team knew he was guilty. Just a matter of amount of fine.
Thus is not left or right, GOP or dem, not partisan.
This is a case of a washed up NYC real estate developer that frequently committed fraud.
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Who cashes the check for "damages"?***
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Feb 18, 2024, 4:29 PM
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It's ridiculous to me that none of this disqualifies him to run for president.
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Feb 19, 2024, 12:56 PM
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Not only that, but he will keep using this as evidence that the Democrats/media/communists are making all this up to frame him and prevent him from returning America to greatness. You know, because he's a saint and his opponents are trying to take away our freedoms.
It's sad how many people are still falling for his lies.
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