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Stark Raving Brad - Worst attempt at a Stat Ever?
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Dec 10, 2023, 2:35 PM
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Opponent: TCU. Dec. 9th
Currently SportsReference.com is showing PJ Hall as leading the ACC in " Box +/- " at 16.8.
I don't follow the detailed formula at SR.com, but it's supposed to be calculated on items solely available in the traditional box score.
I do know that Live Stats reported PJ as net -0- last night against TCU. He was in and out due to foul trouble, so maybe not the best example of what he brings to the team.
Laughably, Chase Hunter's " +/- " under Live Stats was +8, 2nd highest on the team.
Hunters' stat line:
0 for 7 FG's
0 for 4 3-pt FG's
2 Rebs
3 Assts
4 TO's
OK now.....
Welcome to Start Raving Brad.....
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Re: Stark Raving Brad - Worst attempt at a Stat Ever?
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Dec 10, 2023, 2:42 PM
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Is this a sign you are changing you tune on Coach Brownell or just a typo.
Instead of ending you post with Stark Raving Brad, it says Start Raving Brad. Maybe a Freudian slip?
Hmmmm ... inquiring minds wonder.
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Re: Stark Raving Brad - Worst attempt at a Stat Ever?
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Dec 10, 2023, 2:44 PM
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Hey, epifunny used to love that guy!
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Re: Stark Raving Brad - Worst attempt at a Stat Ever?
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Dec 10, 2023, 2:48 PM
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I wonder if tyler is going to trash senile mike for throwing players under the bus?
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Re: Stark Raving Brad - Worst attempt at a Stat Ever?
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Dec 11, 2023, 11:47 AM
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I guess tyler only cares about this when somebody disagrees with him/her.
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Orange Blooded [3456]
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Purpose of the stat is show the effectiveness of the player
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Dec 10, 2023, 2:53 PM
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not just the scoring. Does the team score more points than the opposition or less while the player is on the floor. For example if the team scores 10 points while I am on the floor, but gives up 14 points I am a -4. If the team scores 3 points while you are in, but the other team doesn't score you are a +3. For any one game or part of a game it could be rather slanted, but over the season may be relevant.
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it's hard to be +8, or + anything, when you're shooting 0-fer....
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Dec 10, 2023, 3:52 PM
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that's not a offensive/defensive adjustment, it's the other guys on the floor. Purely them.
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C'MON, MAN! Ok, for the upteenth time, we get it, you don't like Brad Brownell.
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Dec 10, 2023, 5:57 PM
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You are not alone in that. Butt, you ARE just about the only one who apparently gets in the sauce and posts something negative about him and / or the team, EVERY SINGLE DAY.
You need to find a new hobby. Go out and yell at some Girl Scouts, or steal walkers from old ladies trying to cross the street. You will probably have more fans than you have right now!
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Re: C'MON, MAN! Ok, for the upteenth time, we get it, you don't like Brad Brownell.
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Dec 10, 2023, 6:37 PM
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Lol!
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Re: how is this post negative to Brownell?***
Dec 10, 2023, 10:08 PM
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Do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf? In this case, you didn’t actually say anything negative about Brad but because you’ve done it after virtually every game with such vigor, you’ve lost credibility when you do try and post something that isn’t about that. It’s just what we’ve come to expect from you and it feels like that is nearly always the underlying theme.
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so YOU get to infer my "negativity", I don't even have to actually write it?
Dec 11, 2023, 8:14 AM
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are you 14? are you so stuck in social-media sphere that you can't actually interact appropriately with people anymore?
I understand that you little nut bag keyboard johns would LOVE to make up your own rules about how society works. But seriously,
there's no rules here of social awareness that control me. That's just a pure fiction of your little tyrannical ego.
Be blessed boi. You need it.
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Re: so YOU get to infer my "negativity", I don't even have to actually write it?
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Dec 11, 2023, 8:45 AM
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Perception is reality... You asked and I answered. If you don't want to know, don't ask.
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again with the hostile tyranny - your Perception isn't my reality
Dec 11, 2023, 10:04 AM
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never will be. You can't force it on me in any way.
You think I'm being negative - you convince every one else on the board the same. Meaningless.
You're all just insane at that point. Believing something that doesn't exist. Acting on a "reality" that won't last.
The Emperor of Rome thought the same - that he was impenetrable so long as he was Rome. When no one answered his calls for support, he learned that insanity wasn't a safe place to be.
That's you; sitting in Rome; emphasizing your control over nothing; and your safety from nothing.
That's a simple truism that populates History to immortal time. There's been a whole lot of people over time that combined arrogance with ignorance. A fair many on this Board it appears, even.
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Re: again with the hostile tyranny - your Perception isn't my reality
Dec 11, 2023, 10:10 AM
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"You're all just insane at that point." It must be exhausting for you to always be the only one who is right all the time and therefore, so misunderstood.
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Re: Stark Raving Brad - Worst attempt at a Stat Ever?
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Dec 10, 2023, 6:34 PM
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Chase played last night?? Hmmmm.....I thought surely that was Luke McFlook in Chase's uniform.
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It appears to me, that in the last two games, little brother Dillon has played
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Dec 10, 2023, 6:41 PM
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better than Chase. He seems to protect the ball better...Chase gets careless with it...especially the first 10 minutes of yesterday's game.
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Even this reach is beneath you.
Dec 10, 2023, 10:07 PM
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We all understand you've tripled-down on your hate for Brad, but....
Even you are better than this bullshitss. Admit it and I will respect you.
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Dude, grow the F up.***
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Dec 11, 2023, 8:50 AM
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quite the Philosopher aren't we?***
Dec 11, 2023, 10:05 AM
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a lot more accurate than your attempt at advanced statistics***
Dec 11, 2023, 10:24 AM
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Why would I attempt advanced statistics?
Dec 11, 2023, 10:32 AM
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It doesn't take advanced statistics to show Brownell can't Coach.
I argued against letting Chase Hunter take important three's late in the game against Alabama, what was indeed a very important win.
Hunter is a 36% career shooter from 3, and as such was hardly a reasonable bet. It's worse that he's a 5th year Point Guard.
That he made both of those shots in the last 5 minutes that night was good on him. I said as such.
But I was pilloried and defamed and attacked ad nauseam.
One idiot even stated, "Big game players make big game shots." LOFL...
Hunter is 1 for 13 from 3 ever since.
I rest my ####### case. Don't let the advanced statistics confuse you....
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Re: Why would I attempt advanced statistics?
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Dec 11, 2023, 11:56 AM
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You need to cut it back. You are going to feel miserable when Coach Brownell goes for maybe 25+ wins, finally makes to the Dance as a 5 seed or stronger and signs a big contract extension.
Look I'm not the biggest fan of Coach Brownell and have indicated it on this site, but as long as he wins who cares how he goes about doing it.
You are going to have to admit he signs a big contract extension he will probably retire here for being at Clemson a total of 20 seasons or so. Might as well join the party.
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it's like they stole the election in 2020 and at the same time
Dec 11, 2023, 12:39 PM
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somehow lobotomized the idea of "Moral Outrage" from every American.
You, indeed, may be right; but I still wouldn't want to be you.
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