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Established precedent - submission of alternative electors
Sep 8, 2023, 7:10 AM
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To TNet’s ‘law and order’ leftists who howl about the ‘illegality’ of Team Trump’s attempt to submit an alternative slate of electors following 2020 election:
The precedent for submitting an alternate slate of electors … in conflict to the certification of the standard slate of electors that reflected that state’s election results … came from when Team JFK (pay attn here, ignorant lefties), the Democrat nominee for POTUS back in 1960, submitted a slate of alternative electors for Hawaii.
Stare decisis (‘the [based on previous cases] decision stands’), still remains as a foundational principle of American law.
But now, that the establishment bureaucracy’s mortal enemy (Trump) had followed this legal precedent, suddenly America’s legal guideline of ‘respecting prior decisions’ … I.e., stare decisis … means nothing.
Therefore, this legally bankrupt but politically motivated attack on Trump moves forward … same as all of the other fraudulent indictments against Trump.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/08/04/hawaii-democrats-used-fake-electors-during-the-1960-election-nobody-was-charged-1383765/
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It was illegal
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Sep 8, 2023, 7:53 AM
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His electors were fake. This isn't like the JFK case. He lost the election fair and square. He's a criminal and he's going to prison. Get over it.
What a dumb argument. "Der herp since it happened somewhere else in 1960 and no one was prosecuted, it's magically legal now!"
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Re: It was illegal
Sep 8, 2023, 8:21 AM
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Yep, this is just like him saying a few weeks ago that they weren't trying to "overturn" the election, they were just trying to "delay" the counting of the votes and sending certain states back to the state legislatures for a further look into it(btw, this was the same logic recently espoused by Eastman on Fox). Hello, this is ILLEGAL ALSO as the constitution/election laws specifically call for the certified state votes to be counted by VP ON J6, PERIOD. It should be noted that the proposed "delays" purpose was to OVERTURN the election. It's funny how they keep twisting themselves into pretzels trying to defend this blatantly wrong crap
Oh, and on the Stare decisis basis of the argument, each SCOTUS nominee stated that they believed Roe was super precedent under Stare decisis and this did not stop them from overturning Roe. HTH
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Re: It was illegal
Sep 8, 2023, 8:54 AM
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Agree with all except for jail. Hell will freeze before he serves a prison sentence.
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For the federal charges, I think you're right.
Sep 8, 2023, 8:59 AM
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I don't know about the Georgia ones. Although I could also see him tucking his tail and pleading down to lesser charges.
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Re: It was illegal
Sep 10, 2023, 10:23 AM
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The documents case is open and shut, with multiple persons serving time for far less egregious hoarding of classified documents. He at least gets home detention for that one. There’s absolutely no defense and all his co-conspirators are all going to turn.
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Re: It was illegal lefties = intellectually useless
Sep 8, 2023, 9:00 AM
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Julian Epstein, former chief counsel for the Democrat party, says that the lefties are wrong.
Lefties are infamous for not knowing the definitions to words; they believe that a word’s definition is whatever they want it to mean at any given moment of convince to them.
Dox / doxxing immediately comes to mind.
Also well known are Democrats’ predilection to choose ignorance on a subject (although I doubt most lefties know the meaning of the word “ignoran,” but I digress).
Deaf to even those legal opinions that come from famous Democrat lawyers when those opinions differ from what they want to believe, lefties seal their reputation as the most intellectually useless people on the face of the earth.
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My brother. You are consumed by a term you don't understand
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Sep 8, 2023, 9:02 AM
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or know. Let it go. Free yourself of that burden.
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Re: My brother. You are consumed by a term you don't understand
Sep 10, 2023, 9:28 PM
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Is the term in question ‘doxxing’? If so, then please don’t embarrass yourself or Catahoula by pushing TNet’s lefties abuse of that term.
On the other hand, if there is a term that I used in detailing why the submission of an alternative slate of electors is not criminal, then I can accept that I may have misused legal terms.
I am completely confident, though, that a presidential candidate that arranges for submission of an alternative slate of electors if that candidate believed he had won is not criminal.
Admittedly, as a non-lawyer I base my opinion on my respect of the interpretations of law as summarized by partisan Democrat lawyers Alan Dershowitz and Julian Epstein, both of whom openly admit their strong preference for Democrat party policies, yet who also speak of their respect for The Constitution as taking priority over their political leanings.
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Yes, it's doxxing.
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Sep 10, 2023, 10:01 PM
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That is the term you do not understand by definition or function.
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Doxxing defined no need to thank me.
Sep 11, 2023, 10:11 AM
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One of your nutjob leftist buddies had accused me of doxxing him. He cited my ability to guess his profession (with his profession being one which is very widespread, funded by the taxpayer and which benefits disproportionately via Democrat funding policies and of which Republican politicians in general and Trump in particular threaten to reduce funding), and then, in TNet exchange in which I had cited the overwhelming tendency of people in his profession to proclaim social outrage over Trump’s policies (Democrat party cliche attack tropes) as cover for their real motive to protect their cushy taxpayer funded jobs, as being doxxing.
So, in a private T-Mail, in which the mods were on copy, he cited my ability to guess his profession (in which he confirmed my guess as being accurate) and then describing him in a single line of a post by his job as being doxxing. BTW, I had also guessed that he was a man, which because he did not object to my use of he / his pronouns, perhaps I had guessed that part wrong and therefore did not cite that part of my ‘doxxing’ attempt as being of concern.
Anyways, after responding to her / his / its message (again, with the mods on copy), she / he / it doubled down about his ‘doxxing’ accusations.
For the benefit of leftists everywhere, below … once again … is a vocabulary lesson. After all, I’m here to help.
The word “doxing” (also spelled "doxxing") is derived from the term “dropping dox,” or “documents.” Doxing is a form of cyberbullying that uses sensitive or secret information, statements, or records for the harassment, exposure, financial harm, or other exploitation of targeted individuals.
This doxing meaning involves taking specific information about someone and then spreading it around the internet or via some other means of getting it out to the public. This practice has been fervent for many years, simply because documents contain permanent records of facts about people and things they have done and said, which can be powerful weapons against them. However, the term “doxing” first gained popularity in the 1990s when hackers began dropping docs on people who had been hiding behind fake names. In this way, hackers could expose other attackers with whom they had been in competition. Removing their anonymity left them exposed to authorities and others trying to track them down.
Doxing has taken a prominent role in modern culture wars, which involve people targeting those who support a cause or hold a belief that is in opposition to one they are trying to push forward.
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So I guess we're both of the opinion that nobody has been
Sep 11, 2023, 10:13 AM
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doxxed on this site.
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Leftieleftieleftieleftieleftieleftieleftieleftieleftieleftie
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Sep 8, 2023, 9:03 AM
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This has nothing to do with right or left or Dem or Pub. Sensible, real conservatives and Pubs have already admitted long ago that the election was legit. The only people still clinging to it are conspiracy nuts who refuse to look at the overwhelming evidence that there were no shenanigans.
It really simply boils down to intelligent vs. dumb and gullible. The former understands the election was legitimate and the evidence supports it.
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Just ask those 51 current and former intelligence officials.
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Sep 9, 2023, 5:36 AM
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Just ask that former FBI lawyer who was coordinating the bans at Twitter...
Everything was on the up and up... Keep believing it.
This past election wasn't strictly about vote totals, whether accurate or not.
It was SO MUCH MORE about an organized bureaucratic coup that has now morphed into judicial coup.
Meanwhile... inflation, immigration, crime, fentanyl, MIC grifting in Ukraine, EV bailouts, etc. continue to RAGE ON.
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Re: Established precedent - submission of alternative electors
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Sep 8, 2023, 8:04 AM
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Re: Established precedent - submission of alternative electors
Sep 8, 2023, 9:01 AM
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If you’ll send me some of your stash, then I’ll get started.
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You dont even understand how the CPI works,
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Sep 9, 2023, 7:43 PM
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I think I will look elsewhere for legal expertise.
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Re: You dont even understand how the CPI works,
Sep 11, 2023, 10:15 AM
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Good idea.
Check out Julian Epstein, former lead counsel for the Democrat party, for his views on the DoJ’s indictment with regard to the Trump / alternate slate of electors matter.
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Keep on believing the leftists ‘self licking ice cream cone’ fantasy.
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Re: Established precedent - submission of alternative electors
Sep 10, 2023, 10:16 AM
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All this Russian propaganda you dig up is rotting your tiny brain. Complete misunderstanding of 1960, when a recount was ongoing past the regular certification date.
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Re: Established precedent - submission of alternative electors
Sep 10, 2023, 9:56 PM
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Ah ah ah … not so fast.
Team Kennedy submitted their alternative slate of electors BEFORE any potential remedy of a credible recount had been completed. The recount, after it took place (and from which State of Hawaii’s election result went from Nixon to Kennedy), was not disputed by the Nixon campaign.
Had Nixon disputed the recount and a subsequent recount led to Nixon winning after all, then Kennedy’s submission of the alternative electors would have still have been a criminal act equatable to how America’s leftists of today characterize Trump’s submission of alternative electors.
Trump sidebar #1: Team Trump did not believe that a credible recount (in which validity of votes was confirmed and a sincere search for un-counted legitimate votes had taken place before the recounts were conducted) had taken place.
Trump sidebar #2: AZ’s systemic election malfeasance in Phoenix metro area in 2022 confirms that suspicions about their conduct regarding the 2020 election were highly dubious. Team Trump suspected malfeasance back in 2020; it has taken nearly 3 years to prove that Trump was justified in his strong suspicions about election malfeasance … and maybe outright election fraud … had occurred.
OK, back to your post.
In this age of the leftists “Age of Rage,” arguments from the lefties are replete with invectives and personal attacks against those who differ with their goofy narratives.
I always know that you’re running on empty when reading your posts.
The time has come for you to either walk away or craft your next invective laden, vapid response.
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