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How do you defend this?
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How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:34 AM
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Does deleting surveillance sound like the actions of an innocent man?



https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4123941-trump-charged-with-trying-to-delete-mar-a-lago-surveillance-footage-in-new-indictment/?utm_source=hill_app&utm_medium=social&utm_content=share-link

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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:47 AM
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Yet to be proven wrong.***

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:50 AM
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drunk at the putt putt.


"I love the uneducated"***

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:53 AM [ in reply to Re: How do you defend this? ]
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I use the Hasselhoff defense

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:49 AM
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Because Germans love David Hasselhoff.

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Re: I use the Hasselhoff defense


Jul 30, 2023, 8:46 AM
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Re: How do you defend this?


Jul 28, 2023, 9:54 AM
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Hunter Biiiiiiiden!!!!

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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:56 AM
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Just the Deep State trying to distract us from

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:54 AM
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the Biden Crime Family.

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Ask this man

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Jul 28, 2023, 10:29 AM
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I wonder how many men you've accidently slept with


Jul 28, 2023, 10:43 AM
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considering you have such a hard time telling the difference.

Oh wait, yeah probably 0. Nobody is willing to stoop that low.

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Re: Ask this man

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Jul 28, 2023, 10:44 AM [ in reply to Ask this man ]
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You are right.

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Jul 28, 2023, 11:54 AM
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Billary's ### was subpoenaed.

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Re: You are right.


Jul 28, 2023, 12:01 PM
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Re: Ask this man


Jul 28, 2023, 11:59 AM [ in reply to Ask this man ]
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You have no morals or credibility. You support Trunp. Say you don't and criticize him and you will have some credibility? Can you do that?

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I do criticize him.

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Jul 28, 2023, 12:02 PM
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Signing the Covid giveaways was a huge mistake.

Engaging with the media was a waste of time.

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Re: I do criticize him.


Jul 28, 2023, 12:04 PM
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So you are saying that Trump is terrible human being and you don't support, or do you still do? That will ear things up for people to know what your character is...of you have any.

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I vote by policy. They are all pos's

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Jul 28, 2023, 12:18 PM
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Trump on new green deal: veto
Biden on new green deal: pass with flying colors

Trump: less tax
Biden: more tax

Trump: more secure border
Biden: no border

Trump: no ESG bsht in retirement accounts
Biden: only ESG guiding retirement accounts

and on and on and on. Any other dumb questions?

Also, you think Biden is a better human being that Trump, you are a gd idiot.

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Re: I vote by policy. They are all pos's


Jul 28, 2023, 12:23 PM
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So you still support that fraud. You're a scumbag.

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Re: I vote by policy. They are all pos's

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:25 PM
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So you still support that fraud. You're a scumbag.


Look in the mirror

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Re: I vote by policy. They are all pos's


Jul 28, 2023, 3:48 PM
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You should start with yourself. I don't support him. Do you?

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Re: I do criticize him.


Jul 28, 2023, 1:04 PM [ in reply to I do criticize him. ]
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You support him. You have no morals. You have no credibility.

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Re: I do criticize him. So do I.

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:00 PM [ in reply to I do criticize him. ]
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Trump taking Chris Christie’s advice on anything. Just plain stupid.

(Taking C.C.’s advice to hire C.C.’s ‘bridge gate fixer’ Christopher Wray as FBI Director was the cherry on top.)

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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 12:39 PM
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They probably defend it the same way you defend Hillary deleting her email servers

Or the way you defend Joe Biden for making $10M off Ukrainian and Chinese bribery schemes

So tell us, how do you defend this type of crap?

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Re: How do you defend this?


Jul 28, 2023, 12:44 PM
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Hillary was indicted? Nice try.



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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 1:02 PM
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So, what’s your point?

Hillary did the same thing and didn’t get indicted?

Whomp Whomp

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Jul 28, 2023, 1:23 PM
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Link to where Hillary was asked and refused to return classified documents that were in her possession. I'll wait.

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:34 PM
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She deliberately deleted 33,000 emails from her private server. It’s fact. It’s been proven. She got away with it.

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:03 PM
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The FBI and DoJ didn’t recommend indictment because they were (are still) corrupt.

The judiciary was therefore excluded from this matter of Hillary’s crimes.

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She didn't do the same thing. This is called lying.***


Jul 28, 2023, 1:30 PM [ in reply to Re: How do you defend this? ]
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She digitized classified docs and then destroyed them. Fact.***

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Jul 28, 2023, 2:55 PM
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Re: She didn't do the same thing. This is called lying.***

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:29 PM [ in reply to She didn't do the same thing. This is called lying.*** ]
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You are right, Trump did not purposefully delete 33,000 emails

You know darn well he’d be indicted for it if he had though (deservedly so)

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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 1:13 PM [ in reply to Re: How do you defend this? ]
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If Trump and his minions lied to the Feds and tried to obstruct justice, I'm fine with charging him.

However, why are you ok with Hillary knowingly deleting over 30K emails, scrubbing her server which by her usage of it exposed classified material and in true cave woman fashion had phones destroyed with a hammer?

Was she just bored and like an untrained dog basically chewed up the furniture for fun or was she trying to hide her activities and obstruct justice?

We all are well aware that she wasn't indicted, but now Trump is being indicted for trying to hide information.

Both would appear to guilty of obstructing justice.

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Jul 28, 2023, 1:29 PM
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Prove to us that she refused to return classified documents after being politely asked to return them. Prove to us where she intentionally destroyed evidence after they became part of investigation. You can't, which is why this is not comparable. But you knew that.

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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 2:38 PM
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Prove to us that she refused to return classified documents after being politely asked to return them. Prove to us where she intentionally destroyed evidence after they became part of investigation. You can't, which is why this is not comparable. But you knew that.




I have no proof that she didn't provide classified documents when asked to return them.I never stated that.

Since over 30K emails were destroyed which may have contained information on her favorite paint color vs whatever else, you have no proof that all classified material discussions were returned either. We will never know what was on those emails, but if it was completely innocuous and she knew Congress said to leave them be, why destroy them?

The emails and server were wiped AFTER Congress explicitly requested that none of this material be destroyed. This was an intentional act AFTER this material was subpoenaed.

Hillary Clinton is a very intelligent person. Her actions were not those of a bumbling rube. She obviously had something to hide, she hid it and there were no legal repercussions for her deliberate activities to hide from Congress her activities.

I'm not ok with what Trump did, but unlike you I don't think Hillary should have gotten a pass either. I also don't see why Biden will probably skate for taking classified materials as a Senator, which is completely unjustified and illegal.

I am not comparing on scale the activities of Trump, Clinton or Biden, but don't see why you seemingly are ok that Hillary skated and Joe probably will too.

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:31 PM
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Jack Smith has to prove that Trump obstructed justice, which means he has to prove intent. How that turns out has yet to be determined. Same thing with Clinton, the Justice Department needed to prove intent in order to make an obstruction of justice charge. They couldn't do that. Also, emails have senders as well as recipients. Are the Clinton emails also in the system from senders/recipients? Which classified documents is the National archives requesting that Crooked Hillary needs to return? Do you even know? No, you don't. You're desperately trying to make a whatabout on Hillary when the 2 cases are substantially different. If evidence could be provided to prove Hillary's obstruction, I would say do it. But Trump's DOJ was unable to come up with proof, which is required for a possible conviction. That's how these things work.

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Re: How do you defend this?


Jul 28, 2023, 3:40 PM
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Thanks counselor. My bad.

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Re: How do you defend this?


Jul 28, 2023, 3:50 PM
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Why can't these classified emails that you are worried about be retrieved from the sender/recipients?

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Jul 28, 2023, 9:13 PM [ in reply to Re: How do you defend this? ]
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DoJ did not have to prove that Hillary intended to obstruct justice.

Hillary’s destroying of evidence (to which Hillary admitted) is ‘spoliation of evidence.’

Spoliation of evidence rule,according to USLegal.com is:

“Spoliation of evidence refers to intentional or negligent withholding, hiding, alteration or destruction of evidence relevant to a legal proceeding. Accordingly, it is inferred that a person who destroys such evidence does it with consciousness of guilt. Thus the principle carries along the following consequences:

1. the act is criminal by statute, and may result in fines and incarceration for the parties who engaged in the spoliation; and

2. case law has established that proceedings which might have been altered by the spoliation may be interpreted under a spoliation inference.

(*). Hillary’s very act of destroying evidence is, according to this well known legal standard, establishes that Hillary knew she was guilty. In other words, a de facto admission of guilt.

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Jul 29, 2023, 1:26 PM
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Please link your evidence that Hillary destroyed evidence. Waiting.

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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:31 PM [ in reply to Re: How do you defend this? ]
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Bull crap

She deliberately deleted 33,000 emails from the server - it’s a fact

It’s been proved

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:35 PM
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Show us the proof. And what exact emails is the archives looking for? Do you even know? Can't the mentioned emails be retrieved from the sender/recipients? Still waiting.

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:50 PM
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Really? Were you doped up when all this went down?

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/293837-fbi-recovers-30-clinton-emails-involving-benghazi-attack/amp/


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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:53 PM
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From your link

"At this time, we have not confirmed that the documents are, in fact, responsive, or whether they are duplicates of materials already provided to the Department by former Secretary Clinton in December 2014.”



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Jul 30, 2023, 7:58 AM [ in reply to Re: How do you defend this? ]
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Where's the proof that Clinton deliberately erased 33000 emails. Looks like you're stuggling, AGAIN.

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Bruh, it’s easy to defend….


Jul 28, 2023, 1:59 PM
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…if you lack integrity and worship a man like you’re a cultist.

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Trump is not a phony. - RememberTheDanny


bless his heart***


Jul 28, 2023, 2:45 PM
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"something in these hills..." -joe sherman


Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 28, 2023, 3:44 PM
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best
president
ever

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No need. It is just more made up bullsh*t***

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Jul 28, 2023, 7:34 PM
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Dem desperation does not equal Dem credibility

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Jul 28, 2023, 8:56 PM
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Trump’s personal tapes are not proven to be evidence of any wrongdoing by Trump.

(?). Were the Mar a Lago home security tapes included in the June 6 indictment? Is so, then the remainder of this e-mail message is moot. However, if the original indictment did not include a specific request for Mar a Lago home security footage to be either turned over or preserved, then the rest of this message is relevant.

Xxxxxxxx

Unless a family’s home security tapes are specifically cited as evidence in an initial indictment of a person, the government cannot decide at some random future date ‘hmmm … maybe there is something else that we should seize to help our prosecution of an old indictment.’

Heaven help us … Trump’s Mar a Lago domestic workers had taken out the trash since the June 9th indictment! Possible evidence of Putin’s fingerprints on an empty container of McNuggets has been exfoliated.

December 2021 is when the National Archives was advised that the documents were at Mar a Lago.

(*). Don’t tell me that the Granny Garland DoJ was so stupid that, between December 2021 and June 6, 2023 (when the indictment was read) that the DoJ was too stupid to include a request for Mar a Lago home security footage as a piece of potential evidence.

(***). This latest documents case indictment is an obvious attempt to shift the news cycle away from Biden family bribery and blackmail to something about Trump.

This also will backfire. Democrat desperation dos not equate to convincing cases for the Democrats.

Trump will get another bump in his popularity.
Biden’s DoJ will be marked with another blatant example of political persecution.

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They're going to threaten that worker and try to turn him.


Jul 29, 2023, 3:08 AM
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Prosecutorial SOP.

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Jul 29, 2023, 6:03 AM
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It will be another lie just like the "Russia, Russia, Russia"

They go after him so hard because "their lives literally depend on it"

Treason is punishable by death and they all are treasonous.

I do believe we still have the innocent until proven guilty, not guilty by MSM that has lied over and over and over......yet you still believe their lies.......

Go read the boy who cried wolf again

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Jul 29, 2023, 6:16 AM
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16and18 said:



If we want to talk about REAL surveillance camera stories......

Jan 6th footage being withheld

9/11 footage being withheld

WH footage being withheld(cocaine discovery)

These are REAL stories and you know it's being withheld.

You, however, do not know about this recent acquisition - and it is only that

Over $100 million spent already to bring him down and it's all been lie after lie.....

How much effort has been put in to infringing our 1st Amendment rights through intimidation and censorship?

Ask yourself why all these people would put themselves in this position to face the weaponized FBI, DOJ, courrupt court systems if they weren't right.

DARK to LIGHT - REVELATION!!!!

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Re: How do you defend this?

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Jul 29, 2023, 9:42 AM
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Re: How do you defend this?


Jul 29, 2023, 11:42 AM
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Too bad. Doesn't matter what you say the corrupt left conjures about Trump, they have no credibility. The group proven to have no morals, no ethics, no interest in equal justice under the law, etc. can do nothing to convince the masses anything they have is legit.

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