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Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 9:58 PM
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Any of you actually see him play? If so, how good was he?
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A smaller version of Zion Williamson, but much better against better competition
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He could jump out of the building, rebound, dunk and had a killer jumper. You need to Google some video of him.
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Apparently not as good as Brad Daugherty***
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Surefire HOFer. One of best cbb players ever
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James Worthy-type player. I was a Clemson fan, but Lenny’s death broke my heart.
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Re: Surefire HOFer. One of best cbb players ever
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:33 PM
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Not mine - he od'd on cocaine.
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Re: Surefire HOFer. One of best cbb players ever
Feb 28, 2024, 2:08 PM
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What does overdosing have to do with anything?
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:05 PM
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Yes he was really really good,some say he was better then Michael Jordan in College and that's just was how good he was
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:03 PM
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I remember a game Maryland played against UNC at Carmichael (I believe). I think Bias was a Jr or Sr at the time. Anyway MD was behind by 6 - 8 points the best that I remember with 10 or so seconds left in the game. Bias was instrumental in the MD come from behind win and beating UNC with Jordan playing. It was a wild and exciting finish to the game. But, that was back when the ACC was THE PREMIER basketball conference.
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Re: Len Bias
Feb 27, 2024, 11:17 PM
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Yep... Carmichael Auditorium.
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Greatest college player I ever witnessed live.
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:09 PM
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He was awesome. I also watched David Robinson at Navy in the tourney and he impressed me almost as much.
Then there was Muggsy Bouges, what a freak.
But anyway, there was a reason Larry Bird was going to attend rookie camp with the Celtics.....he was that impressed with Len Bias.
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He was awesome. Would have loved to have seen him with the Celtics. Set the
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Celtics back a long time......
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Re: He was awesome. Would have loved to have seen him with the Celtics. Set the
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Feb 28, 2024, 8:13 AM
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Yep. Took at least a decade for them to get over his death. Would have been fun watching him an Michael and the Lakers going at it.
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I heard 2 sides of the cocaine OD - 1 - it was his 1st time - 2 - habitual user
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Feb 28, 2024, 8:22 AM
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and that Lefty knew of Len’s drug problem and did nothing about it so that the Terps could keep winning.
I don’t know what to believe, but the sadder part of the story is if that was the 1st time he had used cocaine and then had the heart attack.
For an athlete of his physical prowess, to see that dose of cocaine end his life that quickly should be enough reason to never use that stuff.
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Re: I heard 2 sides of the cocaine OD - 1 - it was his 1st time - 2 - habitual user
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Feb 28, 2024, 2:10 PM
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He had to do a #### load of coke to OD. Unless he had some underlying issues.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:18 PM
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Would have been Top 5 all time in NBA in my opinion
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Best player I saw in person while I was at Clemson
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:26 PM
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Missed Jordan by a year
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:31 PM
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Definitely the best college player I saw while at Clemson. Also saw Ralph Sampson and the NC team that had Worthy, Jordan and Perkins all on the same team.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:20 PM
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Loved it...
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:44 PM
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Really, really, really good. A stud among studs.
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I've always put Len Bias in the same category as Michael Jordan and David
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:46 PM
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Thompson as the most athletically gifted college players I've ever seen. He was that good.
edit: For those of you not familiar with David Thompson, he was only 6-4 but had a 44-48 inch vertical jump... legend had it he could make change off the top of the backboard... like, leave a quarter and swipe off 2 dimes and a nickel.
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Re: I've always put Len Bias in the same category as Michael Jordan and David
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:19 PM
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Thompson was built on springs. I remember when he landed on the back of his head/neck... very scary.
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Re: I've always put Len Bias in the same category as Michael Jordan and David
Feb 28, 2024, 3:36 PM
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I saw David Thompson shatter a backboard at a Citadel basketball camp in the 70s. Way before anyone had heard of Darryl Dawkins. He was playing in an exhibition game at the start of camp. We were sitting on the floor all around the court. One of my HS teammates ran onto the court and grabbed a piece of the backboard. I don’t remember if that was the same year Tree was at the camp. I went 4 years. Tree and Stan Rome were there at least a couple of those years. Stan coached my 3 man team one year and we win the 3 man competition that year. I only remember David Thompson being there one year so it was probably the first year I went.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:53 PM
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One of the last games he played in college...Maryland was down a couple of points with time running out. They got a turnover under their own basket. Bias took the ball out to throw it in. Everyone was covered. So, he threw the ball off of a defender's back, jumped in bounds, grabbed it and dunked it! I'm thinking he scored 8 points in like 15 seconds.
I also think he was on something that night.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 10:56 PM
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Saw him early 80s. One of the legends we got to see in Littlejohn.
Len Bias
Michael Jordan
Sam Worthy
Ralf Sampson
Sam Perkins
Mike Gimenski
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
That doesn't even count the great Clemson players like Larry Nance, Tree, etc.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:01 PM
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Danny Ferry
Johnny Dawkins
JR Reid
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:03 PM
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Albert King
Kenny Smith
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:08 PM
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Al Woods
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:11 PM
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Dominique Wilkins
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Re: Len Bias
Feb 28, 2024, 7:40 AM
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Tim Duncan
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He was incredible.
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Len Bias, David Thompson, Michael Jordan, and David Robinson are the best college basketball players in my opinion in terms of athleticism, skill, and dominance.
Edited to add: Wilt Chamberlain. Before my time, but incredible skill and athleticism. He’s the GOAT in my book (college and pros), and it isn’t even close.
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Re: He was incredible.
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:19 PM
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Len Bias, David Thompson, Michael Jordan, and David Robinson are the best college basketball players in my opinion in terms of athleticism, skill, and dominance.
Kareem Jabber says hello
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Re: He was incredible.
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:21 PM
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He was talking about pure athleticism.
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Re: He was incredible.
Feb 28, 2024, 12:20 AM
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He was talking about pure athleticism.
Then we should be mentioning Julius Erving and Magic Johnson who were both great athletic players
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Not in the same league as the ones I mentioned.
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Feb 28, 2024, 12:24 AM
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Certainly great players though.
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Re: Not in the same league as the ones I mentioned.
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Feb 28, 2024, 3:39 PM
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Dr J was much better than David Robinson.
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Re: He was incredible.
Feb 28, 2024, 6:47 AM
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Magic was skilled, but I think he is thinking more about guys that are skilled, but also jump out of the gym. Freak athletes.
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Re: He was incredible.
Feb 27, 2024, 11:23 PM
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Alcindor was back in early 70s. Whole different group of great players.
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You mean Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?
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He was Lew Alcindor in college. I agree that he was incredible, but I was thinking basketball dominance as well as freakish athletic ability.
For your list, Bill Walton should be on there too.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:22 PM
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Yes. We were in college at the same time so I got to see him 4 times in Littlejohn. He was the real deal and I was a big Celtics fan back then. I was devastated when he died.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 27, 2024, 11:25 PM
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Back then you either pulled for the Lakers or the Celtics.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 28, 2024, 7:54 AM
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Yep loved the Celtics back in the day. Jumped on the Bulls when Jordan came on the scene and now could not name but a few in the NBA.
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Re: Len Bias
Feb 28, 2024, 2:05 PM
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Back then the NBA was the best game in town. Not anymore.
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I saw him steal one from us in Littlejohn***
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 28, 2024, 7:52 AM
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Really, really good. Difference maker no doubt. A couple of inches taller and some believed he goes #1, but #2 is not too bad.
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 28, 2024, 8:10 AM
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One of the best college players I ever saw
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Saw him take over a game against Georgia Tech back in my grad school
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Feb 28, 2024, 8:16 AM
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…days at Tech.
This was when Mark Price was point guard at Tech. I thought Tech had the game in hand against the Terps.
Bias went on a 2nd half tear that was just shocking to watch. I believe that 4 of the Terps could have stayed on the defensive end of the court and allowed Bias to just play 1 on 5 against the Jackets, and I think the Terps would have still won that game.
I was truly saddened to hear of his death.
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He was the most athletic player I had ever seen. He was in the MJ
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Feb 28, 2024, 8:18 AM
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sphere level good.
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He was the real deal...
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Sadly, the thing I remember most about Bia was his untimely drug-related death, the fall-out from which would prompt the resignation of Maryland athletic director, #### Dull, along with head coach Lefty Driesell who had coached at Maryland for 17 years.
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Re: Len Bias
Feb 28, 2024, 10:09 AM
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He was a GREAT player who would have played in NBA
Died too early
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Re: Len Bias
Feb 28, 2024, 10:34 AM
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Of course he would have played in the NBA.
He was a GREAT player who would have played in NBA
Died too early
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All I need to know about Bias is that Larry Bird was near tears when he found
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Feb 28, 2024, 10:19 AM
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out Len had died. He was REALLY looking forward to playing with him on the Celtics. What might have been....
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Re: Len Bias
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Feb 28, 2024, 2:01 PM
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I was living in Maryland during those years. Great player!!
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For three years
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Improved every year.
Year 1 - Jumper, Dunker, Shot Blocker, somewhat awkward in space.
Year 2 - Greatly improved.
Year 3 - Well rounded game. Dribbling, mid-range shot & defense improved. Superstar.
Best comp for me would be a stronger and still developing Dominique.
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