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Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 4:20 PM
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3 out of 13 NCAAT appearances equals success? Thus far I’ve only seen some of you try to change the argument to compare to other sports or shift the argument somehow. Serious question: do any of you think making the NCAAT in 3 out of 13 years is successful?
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 4:23 PM
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Should a guy who can only make 3/13 NCAAs be paid more than 7/8ths of this year’s Elite Eight coaches. And essentially the same as the other. Seriously. FML.
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I have often said he is the most over paid coach in the
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Mar 25, 2023, 4:59 PM
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Mar 25, 2023, 11:13 PM
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 4:26 PM
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They’ll say it’s the best you should expect at a place like Clemson that doesn’t adequately support basketball and underpays their head coach by paying him more than 7 of the 8 coaches in the Elite 8.
And of course there’s the turd fans, who have the unmitigated gall to desire a coach that’s better than Brad.
3 of 13 is probably MORE than one should expect.
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 5:09 PM
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The fact that the administration has allowed our coach to last 13 years kind of proves their point. If the administration was really serious about basketball and providing more support, that is where they would start.
Status quo = satisfied with the results...
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 5:21 PM
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If he simply kept getting extensions it would be one thing. But he keeps getting raises - large ones. Way above market value. No one making over $1 million a year needs cost of living raises but his are way larger than that anyway. Negligent is really the only word to use for our athletic departments handling of Brad Brownell.
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 6:01 PM
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It is kind of hard to believe. We dont make the big dance. Then get blown out as a number one seed in NIT. All we are left with is brownell for another year. How we ever expect a different outcome is something i just cant understand.
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They will dismiss the first half of his tenure
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Mar 25, 2023, 5:01 PM
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With facility excuses. Which of course ignores the fact that Purcell made it three straight years with those same facilities
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Re: They will dismiss the first half of his tenure
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Mar 25, 2023, 5:23 PM
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Purnell only missed the postseason (NiT or NCAA) once. Brownell was still missing the NIT in year 12. This #### is stupid.
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 6:01 PM
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There was a better case to fire him the year before our sweet 16 run than now.
Over the last 6 years we have had 4 very competitive teams. Brownell's best class he has recruited will be sophomores this year. His best player he has ever recruited is a senior and has 2 years of eligibility.
The fact that you haters can't acknowledge this is embarrassing.
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So you can’t answer a simple question?
Mar 25, 2023, 6:04 PM
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Let me repeat, do you think 3 NCAATs out of 13 years is successful?
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Re: So you can’t answer a simple question?
Mar 25, 2023, 6:18 PM
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No.
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That’s amazing. You can disagree with me but you not being able to
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Mar 25, 2023, 6:21 PM
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Answer a simple question without getting emotional and changing the subject. That fits exactly what I thought about you. Thanks.
Well let me give you benefit of the doubt are you saying no that isn’t successful or no you can’t answer a simple question?
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Re: That’s amazing. You can disagree with me but you not being able to
Mar 25, 2023, 7:51 PM
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Are you ok, man?
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Your answer was unclear***
Mar 25, 2023, 8:21 PM
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Yes
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Mar 25, 2023, 8:39 PM
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Because it is Clemson, a school with no basketball history and some of the worst fans in the country. 23 wins, third place finish in ACC, 10 straight winning seasons, no off court issues, graduates players. #clemsongrit
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Wow is all I can say.***
Mar 25, 2023, 8:41 PM
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Re: Yes
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Mar 25, 2023, 8:55 PM
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Can you explain to me how much better FAU’s basketball history is?
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Can't fix stupid***
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Mar 26, 2023, 6:33 AM
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 6:18 PM
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Yes you can. Do you think our team was competitive this year? If you say no, you lose all credibility.
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 6:22 PM
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The standard is the NCAA. You’re using a completely subjective word. They did not meet the standard. Do you think it’s acceptable, after arguing for years that his program is underfunded, to discover that he is paid more than 7 of the 8 Elite Eight coaches. And that the 8th, UConn’s Coach, is only paid $150,000 more. Of the other 7 - only Larranaga is within 1/2 million of Brownell. Perhaps, if there is any truth to our program being “underfunded”, it’s because our pos coach is siphoning all the money for himself.
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
Mar 25, 2023, 7:50 PM
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You know, you are right...... We weren't a good or competitive team this year.
Question..... if ncaa tourney is the standard, then why are you bragging on Purnell's nit appearances? Those were crap seasons right?
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
Mar 25, 2023, 8:31 PM
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Why are you deflecting. I've never "bragged on Purnell." I've used him as a counterpoint to Brownell's failures. Purnell appeared to have hit a ceiling and his departure presented us an opportunity to move the program forward. That did not happen. Achieving the standard 43% of the time is > 23% of the time.
Want to deflect away from that with another irrelevant aside?
Going to continue to ignore that Brad is grossly overpaid based on the compensation of this year's Elite Eight participants?
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
Mar 25, 2023, 8:33 PM
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Yes. I believe firmly that he is now putting his self interest fully in front of the success of the program. Any short falls in "support" are tied up in his wholly undeserved salary. Then he and his friend the AD play martyr for not being selected - when everyone who has ever followed the tourney more than one year knew they wouldn't be. Then, the coup de grace, state plans for yet another massive facility investment pretending the one just completed is no longer adequate for a successful program. He has become a full blown grifter.
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 6:26 PM
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They were competitive at times and in some games. They were not very competitive in too many of the games against weaker opponents. That’s why they didn’t make the NCAA tournament.
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 7:52 PM
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Somebody didn't watch the games this season.....
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 11:08 PM
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Nice comeback. Of course you’re wrong, but that’s nothing new.
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Mar 25, 2023, 6:49 PM
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Yes you can. Do you think our team was competitive this year? If you say no, you lose all credibility.
I consider all of them "gimmees" -- did not work out that way.
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 25, 2023, 7:18 PM
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Having a competitive team, yet inexplicably losing to terrible teams and failing to make the Tournament, is kind of on the coach, don’t you think?
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
Mar 25, 2023, 7:25 PM
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Well, we certainly weren't competitive in the ACC tournament against Virginia, or against that basketball powerhouse Morehead State at home, were we? Who has no credibility?
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I wonder how long haters can keep
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Mar 25, 2023, 8:35 PM
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it up. All of the whining is not a good look. The job is not open and is not going to be open. And if you don’t want to buy tickets or support the program I don’t care. Go sniff some football jocks. That’s all some of y’all k ow how to do.
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Re: I wonder how long haters can keep
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Mar 25, 2023, 11:16 PM
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Literally everyday until he’s gone.
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Losing to Morehead State in the first round of the NIT
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Mar 26, 2023, 1:40 AM
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as a 1 seed isn’t a good look either.
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Brownell fans dont think, period.***
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Mar 25, 2023, 7:25 PM
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Re: Do any of you Brad Brownell fans think that
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Mar 26, 2023, 8:19 AM
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Brad has to have time. Let's look at facts her.
1. Brad inherited a program on shambles that hadn't gone to a NCAA tourney in a 100 years.
2. He does not have facilities comparable to Furman,Creighton, FAU, or San diego state.
3. He does not make enough money. You honestly can't expect him to put in max effort at his salary.
4. Clemson is a football school. Teams like Clemson and Alabama don't get in NCAA basketball tournaments.
5. Brad was first seed in NIT. Let's don't talk about losing to last seed in first round, just dwell on he was #1 seed.
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