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Re: Black on black crime; Where's this debate today?
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Apr 11, 2023, 7:07 AM
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This debate has been shut down by blaming everything on racism. There is a disproportionate breakdown of the home with blacks. Kids raised by a mother and father in the home have a much better chance. Being poor is not the cause or a valid excuse. It’s time for some real introspection but black leaders who say that are quickly silenced.
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No honest discussion about real solutions can be had,
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Apr 11, 2023, 7:25 AM
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because having a boogeyman and maintaining victimhood is the priority of politicians and "leaders" who benefit from it, and it's a much easier and more convenient explanation for perceived victims to accept. Any hint of challenging that narrative is met with immediate ridicule, anger, and violence. No room for discussion or debate, as the problem continues unabted.
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Re: Black on black crime; Where's this debate today?
Apr 11, 2023, 7:37 AM
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I'm not an expert, but I believe that most violence is intra-racial, between people of the same race, which makes sense because violence is often between people who know each other or share a community. Is that right?
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Kinda - Latinos need to look out for white folks and black
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Apr 11, 2023, 7:54 AM
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folks as far as homicides go...but if you're white, your killer is most likely going to be white. And if you're black, so was your murderer.
White folks are the culprit in 8% of murdered black folks
Black folks are the culprit in 17% of murdered white folks
If you are a human person and get murdered, there is a 39% chance it will be by a black person (although they make up only 13% of the population)
Them's 2019 stats...
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls
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K. Wut?***
Apr 11, 2023, 7:59 AM
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Is this about the 6 year old that shot the teacher
Apr 11, 2023, 7:59 AM
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Or the kids that shot up iop?
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Re: Black on black crime; Where's this debate today?
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Apr 11, 2023, 8:54 AM
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Black on black crime isn't a money maker for race baiters and left wing politicians so they completely ignore it, other than to blame Republicans of course.
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Apr 11, 2023, 10:51 AM
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Maybe things that actually contribute to crime
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Apr 11, 2023, 10:44 AM
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are the subject of debate, not the melanin concentration in someone's skin.
Unless someone here wants to argue that a higher concentration of melanin in someone's skin makes a person more likely to commit crimes.
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Re: Maybe things that actually contribute to crime
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Apr 11, 2023, 10:56 AM
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It's not the melanin concentration, it's the DNA that results in melanin concentration.
You know, how DNA of African Americans makes them better athletes in terms of sports that involve running and jumping.
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Are you saying that "black" people have DNA
Apr 11, 2023, 11:03 AM
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that gives them a propensity to commit crimes?
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Re: Are you saying that "black" people have DNA
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Apr 11, 2023, 11:39 AM
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That’s exactly what he said
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Re: Are you saying that "black" people have DNA
Apr 11, 2023, 12:25 PM
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The blatant racism and white supremacy stuff is really impressive, but I really like when he posts about how he’s the most educated and smartest poster on T net.
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Re: Are you saying that "black" people have DNA
Apr 11, 2023, 6:31 PM
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NC believes that blacks are an inferior race. I believe RTDanny is right there with him. Maybe he can chime in and confirm/deny that.
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All races have differences in genetic characteristics.
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Apr 12, 2023, 1:12 AM
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No one will ever study genomes that might be associated with violent predilections in people. This is simply too politically volatile of a subject.
The genome / tendency for violence link has been alluded to with respect to gender, but that’s about it (to my admittedly limited understandings about genome research).
We’re left with race / violence anecdotes from which to get indications of violent tendencies in one race when compared to other races.
NC Tiger is correct in observing that blacks possess certain characteristics which distinguish them (sometimes favorably, sometimes unfavorably) from other races in a general sense. These characteristics go beyond environment, education, and training.
Tolerance for extreme cold. Blacks seem to be less able to happily tolerate very cold environments than white people and selected Asian and Native American peoples. This holds true in modern times (heavily clothed) times when skin pigmentation offers no distinction by itself for this difference in ‘cold tolerance.’
Athletic ability. Blacks seem to be the fastest runners. Same with runners.
Blood disorders. Blacks / sickle cell.
‘Social intuition’. Just my observation here; blacks seem to pick up on phoniness and real friendliness faster than whites or Latinos.
Language aptitude. Too many blacks don’t try hard enough here, but arguably one of the greatest linguists in history was a black guy (S.Africa’s Solomon Plaatje). Rappers (despite my disinterest in that music genre) display impressive twists of language; I’m of the belief that this common attribute sets blacks favorably apart from white people … again, this is just a limited set of generalized observations that brings me to this belief.
Math aptitude. The fact that blacks are pushing so hard to deemphasize math scores as a factor in college admissions tends to support the belief among many (including me) that blacks do not have the same aptitude for math as most of the non-black races. Even the great neurosurgeon Ben Carson admitted to struggling with chemistry (which is highly math oriented).
Violence. Written history of Middle Ages black African cultures is very sparse. Anecdote about horrendously violent, but dominant from the perspective of black society, is from Shaka - Zulu warrior from the early 1800s. He wiped out other tribes as did Ghengis Khan with the peoples of northern Asian lands. Shaka’s violence makes Hitler, Stalin, and Mao look like Florence Nightingale.
Bravery. More anecdote (Shaka related); if you ever read how Shaka’s subjects faced up to Shaka’s dispensation of punishment, then you’ll be impressed (or depressed). (*). Courage to face violence also diminishes how that same person would be less squeamish about dispensing violence.
The willingness to endure and (relatively speaking) exhibit low levels of fear with regard to violent situations, to me, is a reasonable theory about how black people are more tolerant of violence in their lives. Tolerance of violence makes a person less likely to shun violence.
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Re: All races have differences in genetic characteristics.
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It's amazing (or maybe not) how you have tried to double down in NC's stupid ###, ######## suggestion with idiotic conjecture of your own. Y'all must not be aware of history, or what's currently going on, to see that all races/ethnicities are capable of unspeakable acts of violence.
But go ahead and keep the Politics board on the downward spiral to stormfront land...
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Re: All races have differences in genetic characteristics.
Apr 13, 2023, 12:44 AM
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This is not an argument about whether individuals within any given race are capable of doing wrong or right.
Rather, it is about understanding why behavioral trends may be more prominent in some races vs. others.
I had guessed that the virtue signaling lefties would not dare to dissect my observations and anecdote. Much safer for the lefties to attack the messenger as the typical tactic to divert away from discussing the really hard and unpleasant stuff.
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Re: All races have differences in genetic characteristics.
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And there you have it folks. LOL.
Please tell us more about blacks and their tolerance to violence. History had taught us the peaceful ways of the Caucasians and how you have to search really hard to find them committing violent acts against fellow man, correct?
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Lack of reply to this post...
Apr 12, 2023, 2:37 PM
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Proves NC_Tiger_, @RememberTheDanny, and everyone else on their side just got owned. Badly.
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Re: Lack of reply to this post...
Apr 13, 2023, 12:46 AM
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I’ve got a job, not sitting around the pool diddling on social media while living off my mother’s money.
Gheesh.
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Re: All races have differences in genetic characteristics.
Apr 13, 2023, 1:42 AM
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Look up Shaka Zulu king. His tribe successfully slaughtered many Central African tribes, Shaka then expanded his control by invading S.Africa and killing the native black African tribes there.
Darwin stuff. The violent victors win the ‘right to breed and reproduce’ sweepstakes.
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We are one clown from GamecockCentral
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Finding this particular board and sending it to recruits/local media from a real mess. You and NC are a disgrace and embarrassment to our university.
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Re: We are one clown from GamecockCentral
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Apr 13, 2023, 1:37 AM
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Share your ideas.
If you recite the typical Democrat party talking points, then you are exposed as a virtue signaling phony.
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Re: I’m impressed by the lengths you’ve gone to in order to justify your racism.***
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Apr 13, 2023, 1:35 AM
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Cheap shot.
You are comfortable with virtue signaling (‘let’s have a real conversation about race,’ but then avoid any of the delicate stuff that might be useful in coming up with meaningful violence prevention programs that are ‘tuned’ to be effective for what makes that race statistically more prone to violence than other races).
Not so much with putting in the effort to figure something useful to drive the ‘get society safer’ objective.
(*). Anyone who really cares about fixing societal violence will dig deeper than ‘let’s ban all guns’ talk.
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I have no problem digging deeper.
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Apr 13, 2023, 9:12 AM
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That’s necessary to solve major issues.
I disagree that black people have a genetic predisposition to be violent, and suggesting they do is ludicrous.
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Re: I have no problem digging deeper. Please do.
Apr 14, 2023, 1:01 AM
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You didn’t read carefully, and therefore jumped to the usual lifeboat of saying sweet things but not getting serious about digging deeper into a big problem.
(*). My unflattering comment #1 about blacks was about a reasonably possible link between the black race’s genome and a tendency to be more violent than other races.
(*). My unflattering comment #2 about blacks was that a reasonably possible link between the black race’s genome and a tendency to have poorer math aptitude.
(*). It seems like you and others need more details to get you past the knee-jerk impulse to cry out ‘racist’ when
(1). Evolution involves more than just physical appearance. Every aspect of a person is impacted by evolution and their genomes. That is not to suggest that an individual’s genome is identical to others in their race, nor is it identical to any creature live or dead.
(2). Neurological differences are among those in each race’s genome.
Fast twitch muscles? The nervous system makes this happen. Does every black possess ‘faster twitch’ muscles than every non-black person? Of course not. We’re talking about tendencies … not individual anecdote.
Linguistic aptitude? Again, this is a component of the nervous system (this time, the brain). I have no stats, just a general sense from personal experience and awareness of selected historical figures that blacks have a tendency (overall … not in the case with every black) to be superior here vs non-blacks.
Math aptitude? Again, we’re talking about the nervous system (brain). Blacks have genome differences from each other race; each other race has different genomes than each other race. Blacks / genome / math aptitude relative to non-black races? Test scores suggest that blacks don’t tend to compare as well. Does this mean that all non-blacks are better at math than all blacks? Of course not.
Now, to the violence matter. Nervous system and endocrine systems are involved. How do I come up with the assertion that the ‘black genome’ / violence tendency is stronger than that of non-black races? Violence statistics.
(?). Want to argue that the dominant factor in violence comes from the tendency (comparatively speaking) for black families to have a bad family culture (I.e., no father in the household, single mothers who exhibit unstable behavior)vis a vis non-black races as the reason for higher than other racer’s violent behavior? You’ve got an argument. But the (again, comparatively speaking) tendency of blacks to culturally behave in this way more so than non-blacks is also nervous system and endocrine system related. One way or the other, the genome in blacks contributes to the higher incidence of violent behavior than that of the non-black races.
(***). Are other factors involved outside of a race’s genome and tendencies to be violent (or non-violent)? Of course! Environment, home life, nutrition, etc. play a big part. However, the taboo of suggesting that a race’s genome plays no role in tendencies to be more violent or less violent is just covering up for virtue signalers to avoid digging deeper into cause and effect for tendencies to be violent. Again, statistics tell the ‘which race has the most violent behavior’ story.
(***). The usual liberal policy preferences of giving more money to blacks and/or better housing to blacks has proven to be a failure. There needs to be a concerted effort to stop with the grievance industry policies and instead teach the merits of sacrificing short term gratification for long term reward. The ‘I’m entitled because I’m aggrieved’ narratives only exacerbate the violence tendencies.
Suggesting that genetics have nothing to do with a race’s tendencies to be either more violent or less violent is ludicrous.
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Should we round them all up in
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internment camps like you wanted to do Demonrats when Trump lost? lutz
You're so dumb that you're literally harmless, but man are you out there.
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Re: Maybe things that actually contribute to crime
Apr 11, 2023, 12:41 PM
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What about most black people, who do not commit violent crimes? Is their DNA different than the black people who do? How is the DNA different?
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Re: Maybe things that actually contribute to crime
Apr 13, 2023, 1:03 AM
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Each ‘pure’ race from their pre-migration environment has DNA characteristics which can distinguish that race from other races.
Having a common DNA genome with other people of your race does not mean that you are identical to any one else in your race.
The challenge is to correlate different broad based genetic characteristics of each race with tendencies among that race to be more likely to exhibit behaviors (good behaviors or bad behaviors).
Once this is understood better and a REAL conversation about correlation about race vs. statistically relevant behavioral tendencies can be had, then devising social programs that can effectively reach each race so that behavioral tendencies are optimized for EVERY INDIVIDUAL’s good becomes a feasible goal.
The long standing leftist narrative about race is to say ‘there needs to be a real conversation about race’ … followed by no such conversations but plenty of the same old pandering excuse-making that never gets anything positive accomplished.
But please, carry on with the lazy and hypocritical virtue signaling ‘real conversations’ about race. Lefties don’t want to fix this problem.
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Re: Maybe things that actually contribute to crime
Apr 13, 2023, 7:06 AM
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I was looking for a more Chemistry answer. For example, serial killers tend to be more prevalent in people of European ancestry. I imagine this is genetic, but what in the genetic coding causes this. I would imagine that most white people, who are not serial killers, have something in their genetic line that is different than white people who are serial killers.
But, you're right. It's very rare that people, especially politicians, want to have a truly open discussion regarding race.
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Re: Maybe things that actually contribute to crime
Apr 13, 2023, 7:30 AM
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You're using genetics as a cause of violence so you can comfortably say that 1 race is inferior to the other. It's quite laughable really. You have completely ignored socioeconomic status as it relates to crime rates. 😆
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Oh Jesus Christ
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It's like you have to put in a concentrated effort to be this racist.
Black people have darker colored skin than you and THAT is the only difference between you and them. Period.
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There are other genetic differences
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between races besides skin color. Skin color is the only difference that the lefty loons pay attention to.
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