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Illegal Immigrants

Feb 28, 2024, 9:31 AM

Why are they coming over? What's the motivation and intent?

I worked in construction in Florida back in the early 2000s and, it turned out, we had some illegals (they had documentation, but turned out to be falsified - unbeknownst to the guys; they'd been ripped off/scammed by the whomever they connected with in Mexico to get into the US - not uncommon at all). I also worked with several other Latinos back then, indirectly, and I never knew their immigration status.

Most Latinos I worked with and knew of:
* worked hard
* came into the US to work hard and make some money - for opportunity, education, security
* most of them sent a good chunk of their money back home to family who had stayed
* family people - several families will stay in one house until they have saved up enough money to branch out
* want to make money and subsequently want to keep as much of their money as possible, which is counter to many stereotypes and assumptions of them

In any people group, there are those that have bad intentions and look to game the system. But from what I know and have seen, that's the distinct minority of immigrants, illegal or legal.

Others have said that they're coming over because of all the freebies from the Biden/Obama administrations - health care, phones, etc. I'm sure there are a few motivated by that. I'm wondering where that information comes from. First hand speaking with the immigrants? Or blind assumptions?

Just curious. My opinion comes from first-hand knowledge and previous experiences with illegal and legal immigrants. Where do the other opinions come from, other than assumptions?

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That's what I was looking for. Not to argue, but just wondering where the information came from, vs mine coming from my own experiences, which admittedly are extremely limited.

I think it's important to note that the study defines "welfare" pretty broadly, including school lunch programs and other things we don't typically associate with "welfare."

This is an interesting comment as well, that ties in my experiences:
"Immigrant households are more likely to have a worker present than households headed by the U.S.-born. But all eight major programs (SSI, TANF, EITC, school meals, WIC, SNAP, Medicaid, and housing) examined in the report can be received by workers or members of their households if incomes are low enough.

"It is also the case that the presence of extended family or unrelated individuals does not explain immigrant households’ heavy use of welfare. When we look at only households comprised of nuclear families, which constitute the overwhelming majority of immigrant and U.S.-born households, the gap between the two groups remains about the same."

And I'll take my lumps on this one:
"There is an unfortunate tendency for many to think of immigrants one-dimensionally. This is especially true in the business community, where they are seen simply as workers. But this ignores the enormous impact immigrants have on American society, including the welfare system. Given their welfare use rates, knowledge of government programs is clearly extensive in immigrant communities. To be sure, use of welfare is only one facet of immigration. But the impact immigrants are having on the welfare system and public coffers at least needs to be part of the immigration debate."

Illegal Immigrants

Most illegals come for the free ###

The UKR family we adopted just moved to Florida because the guy got a

Re: The UKR family we adopted just moved to Florida because the guy got a

Save your Affirmative Action for the DEI lecture circuit, hippie.***

Re: Save your Affirmative Action for the DEI lecture circuit, hippie.***

Re: Save your Affirmative Action for the DEI lecture circuit, hippie.***

An American would be better at overseeing the growth of a Eastern European

Re: An American would be better at overseeing the growth of a Eastern European

Fairly new chain growing in Southern Florida specializing in European goods.***

They were illegals?***

Refugees.***

It's my understanding that there is no such thing as a refugee.

I told them they should have stayed in Ukraine so the Russians could convert

Don't forget about the glorious Russian bread!!!!,

Groceries only cost about $100 American dollars!!!!1!

Yeah? What free stuff are they gettin'?***

Your mom***

That might actually be more realistic than the other #### you make up.***

You're basing this off of what?

His favorite source. His imagination.***

This

Fair enough

CIS.ORG is a far right anti immigration think tank.

If the numbers are wrong, please post the correct ones.***

I sense Hostility

The numbers are likely directionally correct. The premise is somewhat inane.

Maybe try coming here "legally" and you can get a "legal' job...***

Thats the way it should work. Need better border security

Quiet, you

Nah man

Can they be gun mounted?!?!?

of course, and you can always just blame a software glitch if one kills

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Are talking about US citizens?***

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I am involved in construction trades as well, and know a ton of

I can buy that. In general, demonizing groups of people is problematic.***

In general, of course it is. I am certainly not doing that, and there is

The answer to the border/immigration problem isn't open borders (not that

Additional Link, from CATO Institute - regarding work/labor, not welfare

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a lot come to expand their criminal empire***

Only the simple-minded could believe that bad guys aren't taking full

A lot are forced to come to expand someone else's criminal empire.***

I had the same experience working with them at a golf course...

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