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Oct 29, 2023, 11:07 PM
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First they spear Shipley in the back. Then they poke Tyler Brown real good in the eye.
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Hate it for Shipley, but...
Oct 29, 2023, 11:15 PM
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.... that was a clean, good football hit by the NCSU defender.
I didn't see the play were Tyler got hurt.
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Re: Hate it for Shipley, but... - I saw Brown's helmet driven into the turf on a
Oct 29, 2023, 11:42 PM
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tackle and he was picking grass out of his facemask.
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Re: Hate it for Shipley, but...
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Oct 30, 2023, 1:12 AM
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How so bretfsu, Shipley was flat on the ground when he was hit, that play was finished when he got crushed!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Also looked like helmet to helmet.
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Oct 30, 2023, 1:35 AM
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And it may not have been, but it looked pretty deliberate.
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Re: Hate it for Shipley, but...
Oct 30, 2023, 7:53 AM
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Not.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1718344211735416847
Shipley was down, then the helmet to helmet (at least forcible contact to head or neck on a defenseless player, by rule).
Let's review:
* forcible contact to the head or neck area
Check
* defenseless player
Check: "A player on the ground"
* Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Check
* When in question, it is a foul.
This was a blown call. It would have been a 1 yard penalty (like the other NCSU personal foul), but would have ejected Battle.
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting. When in question, it is a foul. ...
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indications of targeting (emphasis NCAA's) include but are not limited to:
Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14). When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:
A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass
A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier
A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return
A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier
A player on the ground
A player obviously out of the play
A player who receives a blind-side block
A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped
A quarterback any time after a change of possession a ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feet first"
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Re: Hate it for Shipley, but...
Oct 30, 2023, 8:27 AM
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I totally agree Brett, after watching a clean angle video, it was a clean hit.
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