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There are several posters I would like to recognize
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:55 AM
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for being honest and expressing legitimate concerns about our football program over the last couple of years. They are:
PACIFIC BEACH TIGER®
LeonTrotsky
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@STERLING
Thank you for having the confidence to say what's unpopular and enduring the criticism that came your way as a result.
I'm sure I left some out. My apologies!
No one here should be surprised about the state of our football program. You were warned multiple times that this is where we were headed if things didn't change.
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And the basketball program is already there because things
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:00 AM
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WON'T change. So, it appears we are just screwed all around. Thanks for the Picker Upper.
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You are part of the problem.
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:03 AM
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HTH.
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You want to see Dabo fail
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:29 AM
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You seem like the problem.
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Of course I don't want to see Dabo fail.
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I want to see him do a better job as our head coach. We've clearly declined as a program, and it's a direct result of decisions he has made.
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Re: Of course I don't want to see Dabo fail.
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:36 AM
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On a side note, how do you feel about the state of our basketball program Judge?
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She won't answer that question......***
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Do you think we have a good chance to win the ACC Tournament?***
Sep 5, 2023, 1:03 PM
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Re: Of course I don't want to see Dabo fail.
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Sep 6, 2023, 1:47 AM
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Always a challenge to start off the season with a road game. THREE fumbles inside the five yard line were not Riley’s or Dabo’s fault, though emphasis should be placed upon ball security going forward. Anyone who thinks we would have had a better result with D.J. is on drugs. The play calling at times was a bit odd but had the players executed properly (no fumbles) momentum certainly would have swung to us. I’m much more concerned with our Defensive Coordinator Goodwin than any of the other coaches. We moved the ball well running until the fumbles.
It was a weird game.
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Re: You want to see Dabo fail
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No one wants to see him fail...don't be ridiculous. He's an $11.3m a year youth pastor...no matter how you slice it.
He needs to either adapt to the landscape of the sport or retire. We running out 112lb white boy WRs at tte boundary while the portal was jammed of talent.
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Re: There are several posters I would like to recognize
Sep 5, 2023, 11:00 AM
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Is this a list? It sure looks pretty listy to me.
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it's no big feat to be a critic on TNET, seems everyone here
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:12 AM
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knows more about football than the coaches at Clemson and says so every day.
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Re: it's no big feat to be a critic on TNET, seems everyone here
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:17 AM
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Well our coaches said this was one of the "fastest" Clemson teams ever. Pretty sure that isn't even remotely true. Not sure being smarter than our coaches is a particularly high hurdle right now.
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There haven't been many critics the last couple of years.
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It has mostly been a bunch of sunshine pumping, don't question Dabo, etc.
Many people seem to be recognizing the reality of the situation now.
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Since youre such a realist
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Sep 5, 2023, 1:04 PM
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Tell me about the reality of our basketball program and the effectiveness of coach Brownell during his extended tenure at Clemson.
Feel free to include the same level of scrutiny you think coach Dabo deserves. What specifically should Brownell should do to improve the team, and why do you think it’s justifiable that Clemson has stuck with him for so long?
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What about those who have expressed concern about the mens basketball
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:14 AM
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Program?
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Our basketball program overachieved last year
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:32 AM
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as it typically does under Brownell.
Meanwhile, our football program has underachieved two years in a row and seems destined to underachieve again this year as well.
Criticism of our basketball program typically centers around concern that Brownell can't get us over the hump, which is a far cry from him underachieving despite elite talent and record support for the program from the administration and fans.
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Re: Our basketball program overachieved last year
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:42 AM
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as it typically does under Brownell.
Meanwhile, our football program has underachieved two years in a row and seems destined to underachieve again this year as well.
Criticism of our basketball program typically centers around concern that Brownell can't get us over the hump, which is a far cry from him underachieving despite elite talent and record support for the program from the administration and fans.
LOL!!!!! Morehead state?... 3 win Louisville?...
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Don't forget losing to 10-21 Loyola Chicago***
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We didnt lose to Duke though.***
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Duke made it to the NCAA tourney
Sep 5, 2023, 11:51 PM
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Meanwhile we were first round NIT exits. As a 1 seed. At home.
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Re: Our basketball program overachieved last year
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Over acheivers do not lose in the NIT's first round on their home court. You lose all creditibilty with those statements.
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Re: Our basketball program overachieved last year
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I wish trashing our basketball program made me feel better about our football program. If it did, I would be all over this. Unfortunately, it doesn't...
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Re: There are several posters I would like to recognize
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They sound like a bunch of Coots to me.
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Re: There are several posters I would like to recognize
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for being honest and expressing legitimate concerns about our football program over the last couple of years. They are: PACIFIC BEACH TIGER®LeonTrotskyLosTigres17pheebo@CM SHACK @STERLING Thank you for having the confidence to say what's unpopular and enduring the criticism that came your way as a result. I'm sure I left some out. My apologies! No one here should be surprised about the state of our football program. You were warned multiple times that this is where we were headed if things didn't change.
And we told how bad your BFF Brad Brownell is....
HTH...
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110%er [5684]
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And I would like to recognize you for being an absolute
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Jack@$$ for wanting to see Dabo fail!
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I know your world is crumbling right now
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but no one here wants to see Dabo fail.
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I appreciate what you are trying to do...
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Fact is that I hate being on this list. Not because I don't appreciate it but the points that most of us brought-up are turning out to be real problems (issue at DE for example).
These problems are:
1.) Roster management - not just lack of portal use but recruiting misses and stacking up rooms with subpar players like with RB and WR. Or not filling up important positions like DL and LB.
2.) Staffing blunders - we go from Venables, Morris, Brooks, Hobby to Goodwin, Hall, and Grisham.
3.) Lack of player development (linked to #2): see QB, WR, and OL. Oh, and I guess add LB.
I hate that I saw this coming but I hate more being gaslit by the same crowd every time it was brought up.
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ROSTER MANAGEMENT
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It begins and ends there….
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My comments on portal use.....and I stand by it
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Re: There are several posters I would like to recognize
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I appreciate it.
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No doubt, Judges approval is something we all seek.***
Sep 5, 2023, 11:31 PM
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