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All-In [26635]
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This so called "Border Bill" ... only 17% is designated for border security
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Feb 5, 2024, 9:02 AM
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Drain the Swamp.
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Since when do we need a bill to STOP people from crossing into the
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Feb 5, 2024, 9:16 AM
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country illegally, without going through the proper process first? We don't need a bill to do that, we just need the will. This is insanity, and political BS.
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We dont***
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Feb 5, 2024, 9:21 AM
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Re: Since when do we need a bill to STOP people from crossing into the
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Feb 5, 2024, 9:53 AM
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You just seem ignorant. Not surprising.
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Re: Since when do we need a bill to STOP people from crossing into the
Feb 5, 2024, 9:57 AM
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Yes or no. Do you understand that under current law, those who cross the border illegally are granted due process, and those that claim assylum trigger another set of laws which grants them even more due process. And do you comprehend that this is what is backing the entire system up?
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Re: Since when do we need a bill to STOP people from crossing into the
Feb 5, 2024, 10:20 AM
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https://bipartisanpolicy.org/download/?file=/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Claiming-Asylum-at-and-between-Ports-of-Entry.pdf
I understand that this is a stupid law which is perpetuating the problem and incentivizing increasingly huge numbers of people to risk their lives making the treacherous journey so they can enter illegally as well. It is a law that needs to be changed or rescinded immediately. In fact, it will have to be if the problem is to be addresssed. Now even Dems are having to admit the flood of illegal immigrants is harmful and something must be done. Fixing this law will have to be part of it.
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CU Medallion [58632]
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"For too long, going back decades, the immigration system has been broken. Its
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Feb 5, 2024, 11:00 AM
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time to fix it." - President Joe Biden
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/02/04/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-bipartisan-senate-national-security-agreement/#:~:text=For%20too%20long%2C%20going%20back,finally%20%E2%80%93%20seriously%20address%20the%20issue.
""[T]he belief that they are going to be released with no consequence is certainly something that many migrants tell our agents" as a reason for crossing, Deputy Chief Patrol Agent Dustin Caudle, who oversees a section of the border near Yuma, Arizona, said in a September interview."
https://www.axios.com/2023/12/07/border-patrol-migrants-release-attract-illegal-crossings
Between January 20, 2021, and March 31, 2023, there were over 5 million illegal alien encounters. Of these encounters, at least 2,464,424 had no confirmed departure from the United States.
During the same period, DHS released at least 2,148,738 illegal aliens into the United States.
Only 5,993 illegal aliens encountered at the southwest border and placed in removal proceedings before an immigration judge were actually removed from the United States during this time.
A mere six percent of illegal aliens released into the United States were even screened for fear of persecution for purposes of asylum.
As of March 2023, DHS had removed only 874 of the illegal aliens found to have a credible fear of persecution and whose claims were adjudicated on the merits and denied by an immigration judge.
An additional 205,473 aliens were released into the country through illegal categorical parole programs.
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-data-reveal-biden-administrations-failure-remove-over-99-released-illegal
Making any part of what has happened "legal" is not only not an excuse, it's the worst, most preposterous thing of all.
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"Mayorkas said last week that it was that broken system, not administration
Feb 5, 2024, 11:52 AM
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policy, which was the magnet drawing migrants to the border.
"What is a magnet is the fact that the time in between an encounter of an individual at the border and their final ruling in their immigration case can sometimes take six or more years. That is a magnet, which is why precisely why I am working with Republicans and Democrats in the United States Senate to deliver a solution for the American people, to deliver a fix to an immigration system that everyone agrees is broken, and that is long overdue," he said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mayorkas-tells-border-patrol-agents-illegal-immigrants-released-into-us-sources
According to both Biden and Mayorkas, the system is broken, and current laws act as a magnet, which help create the problem. So again, the laws are not any kind of justification for the problem they are acknowledging, they are the cause. We are letting people into the country illegally, then releasing them into the country for years and years. Any law that permits or incentivizes that is insane from the get-go.
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Our immediate and asylum laws are complex and convoluted
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(Researching immigration and asylum law is overwhelming. I tried and just concluded WTH.) The way around our existing laws are EOs which often get challenged in courts. Most agree that excessive use of EOs is detrimental because Congress by default is giving excessive power to the executive branch. In addition this leads to wild vacillation in policy from one administration to the next_ since policy by EO is not firmly supported in law. Congress needs to legislate instead of getting locked down in political muck. And btw, declaring things national emergencies is also a slippery slope and subject to wild swings in government policy and actions.
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Re: This so called "Border Bill" ...
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Feb 5, 2024, 9:28 AM
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Is actually called the "Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act". It only included the border stuff when the pubs said they would pass nothing on Ukraine/Israel/Taiwan without new border legislation in it. Try to keep up, HTH.
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Reads more like a war funding bill.***
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Feb 5, 2024, 10:06 AM
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Re: Reads more like a war funding bill.***
Feb 5, 2024, 11:05 AM
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MAGTs insisted on tying Ukraine and the border together. Own it. 😆
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