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Asst Coach [712]
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Question regarding the southern border
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Jan 24, 2024, 8:30 AM
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I am not into politics very much. I have a question for you guys that are political gurus. I have never understood, and I have never had anyone explain to me in a way that makes sense, why are we allowing people to pour into this country from the southern border? It would seem to the me, that anyone regardless of your politics, should be against people coming here ILLEGALLY. Yet it gets worse and worse everyday.
Can anyone explain to me why this is not only allowed, but why any American citizen would be ok with it and argue for it to continue?
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Building a future voting block under the pretense of compassion.
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Jan 24, 2024, 8:51 AM
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Funny how everybody who is for it is only for it as long as it's in somebody else's back yard and doesn't put them out directly.
I think that's what you were looking for.
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Isn't it interesting how upset New York got when Texas sent illegals there?
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:41 AM
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Yet when it affects Texas, they are expected to take care of these poor people.
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The people that allow it are traitors and despise this country.
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Jan 24, 2024, 8:54 AM
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It's pretty simple. Hth
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Re: Question regarding the southern border
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Jan 24, 2024, 8:57 AM
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There's no coherent reason for it other than the destruction of this country by the political elites who despise you. Saying anything about it gets you labeled a MAGA Trumper white supremacist racist by the kooks on the left so they are obviously on board with the destruction. An invasion by any other name.......
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Google "the Great Reset".***
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Jan 24, 2024, 9:15 AM
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Or dont***
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:45 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81343]
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The "great reset" already happened, except it wasn't who you and the rest of
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Jan 24, 2024, 2:29 PM
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the Qanons want to think it was perpetrated by; the WEF had nothing to do with it.
Corporations made trillions and were bailed out by the government for doing so...all on the backs of you peoples kids and grandkids in a debt that will never be paid off.
It's probably the biggest transfer of wealth to ever occur.
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Re: Question regarding the southern border
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Jan 24, 2024, 2:16 PM
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I agree, if you don't have a secure border you don't have a country.
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:39 AM
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I truly feel sorry for people who are trying to escape their country for a better life here, but they should do it legally.
We have a deficit here in the trillions, with plenty of our own citizens living in poverty. We should take care of our own before allowing others to come here illegally.
I feel the same way about foreign aid and foreign wars. Sure, it would be nice to help everyone else out, but we should take care of our own first.
It's like a struggling family who decides to feed the neighborhood when their kids don't have enough. It makes no sense.
And no, I'm not against charity. I believe it's the right thing to do, but let private citizens and nonprofits handle that, not the federal government.
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Re: I agree, if you don't have a secure border you don't have a country.
Jan 24, 2024, 2:29 PM
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What is the current law with regard to seeking asylum? If an individual can just cross the border and make this request to an agent, don’t our current laws require the US to conduct a hearing? If so…how are these people considered ‘illegals’. Haven’t they complied with our own laws and international agreements which the US has signed onto?
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Assuming you are asking this question in earnest...
Jan 24, 2024, 10:44 AM
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The answer is nobody wants this. Nobody sees this as an ideal situation. But nobody wants to expend the effort to compromise on even incremental steps towards fixing it because each side is deathly afraid that any compromise will be seen as a betrayal by their base, even though both bases are like, "### DO YOUR JOBS."
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Re: Question regarding the southern border
Jan 24, 2024, 10:51 AM
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What is your solution?
What should we do with a poor woman and child who crossed a desert to get here?
I’m all ears….
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"Shoot both of them before they get to the border." - MAGA***
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:52 AM
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"bring them both in and start handing out government money"-Libtards***
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:57 AM
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Man, I know you ain't this dumb
Jan 24, 2024, 11:48 AM
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Not based on your past posts, and I know you ain't "MAGA".
We actually had someone last week advocating for shooting them all. And it's not the first time on this board that lethal violence has been suggested. That's stupid and absurd.
I've never seen anyone here advocated just letting people in and giving them money. Jimmy is far from that. C'mon. Don't fall into that "anyone who opposes Maga is a lib!" stuff.
Our border is a real problem, but the MAGA solutions aren't real ones.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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No, I'm not. I was offering a counter-point to HeyJimmy's silly post.
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Jan 24, 2024, 2:18 PM
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I think it illustrates how that sort of talk (is it hyperbole???? IDK) isn't constructive.
But if you just want to be a troll, then I guess it works. Troll on.
Oh, and I didn't know that somebody actually advocated for that.
Yea dude, I feel ya.
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All-In [27412]
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Mine was a silly post.***
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Jan 24, 2024, 2:25 PM
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EDIT: Though that is, in effect, what the razor wire is supposed to do.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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SO basically, you and I:
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Jan 24, 2024, 2:45 PM
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All-In [27412]
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Except we're gonna DP that uppity chick.
Jan 24, 2024, 2:57 PM
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The only question is...
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CU Medallion [64837]
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I mean...
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Jan 24, 2024, 3:12 PM
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I'm still in.
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Re: Question regarding the southern border
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:55 AM
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What should we do with a poor woman and child who crossed a desert to get here?
I’m all ears….
Do the same thing that happens to me on Friday night at TTT's and there's a line and a bouncer out front telling me that they're at capacity. I either get in line and wait my turn, or I go somewhere else, or I go back home.
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Re: Question regarding the southern border
Jan 24, 2024, 11:39 AM
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Well to be fair you could help the fact that you’re not cool enough to get in the club.
Those poor Hispanics didn’t choose to live in a cesspool of violence and poverty.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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You clearly don't know me.
Jan 24, 2024, 2:21 PM
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Well to be fair you could help the fact that you’re not cool enough to get in the club.
because there's not a damnnn thing I could do to shake my lameness.
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Re: You clearly don't know me.
Jan 24, 2024, 6:29 PM
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Big Dig is generous in his talk about the USA taking care of illegal entry immigrants, but won’t make space in HIS guest bedroom, living room, and den to house any of them. Nor will he spend any of his own m9ney to feed them, clothe them, or provide medical care for them.
Instead, his ‘generosity’ is with other people’s money, homes, food, and food + medical care budgets.
In other words, the classic leftist.
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Re: You clearly don't know me.
Jan 24, 2024, 6:35 PM
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No I’m just not opposed to them setting up their own life here. Apparently you are threatened by that.
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Re: Question regarding the southern border
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Jan 24, 2024, 2:31 PM
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…or you request a beer…and by TTT’s own rules/laws, they are required to let you in until such time as you can prove that you actually need a beer. Now, this may take some time, so until the bartender can make that determination, you are free to mill about and enjoy the music.
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Oversimplification is we don't allow them to enter illegally.
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Jan 24, 2024, 10:57 AM
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All the video clips you see of CBP and a line of immigrants are of people applying to enter legally. Essentially, loopholes and a recent court decision mean you can claim asylum status and wait out the courts in the US.
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Its a good thing our court system is built to handle 1 million + asylum seekers
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Jan 24, 2024, 2:14 PM
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at once.
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Re: Its a good thing our court system is built to handle 1 million + asylum seekers
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Jan 24, 2024, 2:33 PM
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Well, we are a country of laws and if the law says they can come, then they can come. If that law isn’t working then Congress should get together and change it and quit using migrants as pawns to gain political points.
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Re: Its a good thing our court system is built to handle 1 million + asylum seekers
Jan 24, 2024, 3:02 PM
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He's not smart enough to comprehend that. Notice how he can't respond to that.
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Re: Oversimplification is we don't allow them to enter illegally.
Jan 24, 2024, 6:31 PM
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And, of course in your world, all of that is desirable.
After all, the people who want this to happen (and they got their wish) voted for Biden instead of Trump.
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Why the problem isn't solved easily
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Jan 24, 2024, 11:56 AM
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1. We can't look to the Democrats to solve the problem. A, due to incompetency, and B, I suspect they're playing a long game strategy here for future votes.
2. The real Republicans haven't come up with valid fixes for years. Some have tried, but they're too busy infighting. They've talked a good game about fixing it but haven't.
3. The MAGAs want shock and awe solutions that aren't really solutions and just #### off the populace. Building a wall, as someone put it, is a 5th grader's solution. Shipping them off to CA or NY or MA generates laughs and "gotchas," but the people are still in America. Also, people forget that Trump was okay with "catch and deport" during his admin.
We are going to have to find a way to send several back, period. There's really no way around it. Haley proposes this and is known for tough state legislation on it, but I'm not sure how much she can get Congress to act, who ultimately needs to make the move.
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Re: Why the problem isn't solved easily
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Importing poverty isn't a great idea.
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Re: Why the problem isn't solved easily
Jan 24, 2024, 6:39 PM
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Wrong.
Trump had started what, according to early-in-the-program outstanding success, a program to stem the increase in flow of illegal entry immigrants. This was accomplished despite endless attempts at legislative action + lawsuits to impede Trump’s ability to get more done.
Remember the ~ $500,000,000 in border wall materials that were purchased, but sitting un-used at the southern border, during the first Trump administration? The never-Trump RINO Republicans and all elected Democrats used LawFare and legislative schemes to prevent the construction of the wall at strategically important points of entry.
In order to make absolutely certain that these wall materials would never get used, the Biden Handlers Admin went scorched earth and sold these materials for ~ $15,000,000.
This problem rests entirely at the feet of the Democrats, the RINO Republicans, and those millions of idiots who voted them in.
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For a majority of those coming to the US it is because they have to flee their
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Jan 24, 2024, 1:06 PM
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country. They would love to stay in their country of birth, but the risk of death/rape/gangs is too great. What is the solution, who knows, but this has to start in those countries.
Most, if not all of our families immigrated to the US over the centuries for many reasons, some legally, some illegally. I wish there was a solution that all could agree on. These are human lives and good people.
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That's the thing though
Jan 24, 2024, 3:28 PM
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A big portion of these aren't good people with good intentions of the American dream. There were a LOT of people turned away and sent back where they came from on Ellis island too.
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How big?***
Jan 24, 2024, 3:35 PM
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Re: How big?***
Jan 24, 2024, 3:41 PM
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I don't have a percentage. I venture to say no one does. But the shear amount of drugs, cartel involvement, and watch list people, that we know about. Not to mention the ones that got away seems to say that it's more than a few.
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Then how do you know
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Jan 24, 2024, 3:46 PM
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"A big portion of these aren't good people with good intentions of the American dream"?
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Re: Question regarding the southern border
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Jan 24, 2024, 3:37 PM
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Just two things would help fix the problem. (1) To claim asylum, it should be done at a designated port of entry to the US not just crossing or swimming across anywhere you can sneak in and (2) you shouldn't be able to cross over multiple countries and claim asylum just because the USA gives out the most free stuff.
Also, if Biden thought Republicans were coming in from the southern border, he would have closed it yesterday.
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You think deeply religious, pro-family, entrepreneurial hispanics aren't
Jan 24, 2024, 3:40 PM
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future Republicans?
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Historically no.***
Jan 24, 2024, 3:44 PM
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Historically has the GOP tried to court them within this context?
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Jan 24, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Or historically has the GOP used language that describes them as invaders, gangs, thugs, and pests?
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Re: Question regarding the southern border
Jan 24, 2024, 11:48 PM
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OP - I think you’re a bit generous in stating that anybody on tigernet is a political guru.
This board is a cesspool of fast food opinions and insults. Rarely any policy discussion.
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