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DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 4:49 PM
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I’m not gonna talk junk about Dj because our situation with Cade is just as bad.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 4:52 PM
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 4:56 PM
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Cade showed me nothing to give me confidence last year
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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I think we learned something from the bowl game. With better play calls and fewer red zone fumbles, we’ll be okay. I’m not looking for the explosive offenses we had during our playoff runs, but I think we’ll control the ball more and be solid. With our great defense, it will be enough.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 5:13 PM
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If he could eliminate the boneheaded turnovers under pressure we’d be good for sure.
Obviously it was only the spring game but he was still making bad reads that either lead to or should’ve lead to turnovers.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 5:18 PM
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I agree with that. We’ve got to cut out the senseless turnovers this year.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 7:09 PM
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If we had a decent OL and some better receivers, zi suspect we’d be much happier. We didn’t sing to this level overnight, and it’ll take a little time to back to prominence.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 7:19 PM
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I agree. We’ll be better, but I’m not sure we are back to national championship level yet. It may take a couple more years.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 8:48 PM
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Well, it might, but the journey of a million miles begins with a single step. I’d say our journey is way further along than a single step. JMO, but I see us well underway to much better times. Time will tell!!!
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It all starts with the QB. If hes not great or elite, it doesnt matter
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Apr 20, 2024, 10:12 PM
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who the OL or WRs are. If the QB improves then every position will look better. That’s the way it works in this game.
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Re: Just like DJ after the WF game
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Apr 20, 2024, 5:53 PM
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Thank you for being rational.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 6:04 PM
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We learned nothing from the bowl game. He was making the same exact mistakes as he did all year long.
He doesn't sense pressure and is awful at navigating the pocket which led to several of Kentucky's 9 sacks. He doesn't trust reads and has to see guys open rather than anticipating them open which led to an INT instead of a wide open TD to Briningstool.
You're ignoring the process because the result went our way.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 6:12 PM
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Last year was essentially his freshman year. I prefer to cut him some slack rather than focus on everything negative I can find and get myself depressed four months before the first snap.
When I said we learned something, I wasn’t just referring to Cade. He’s not Deshaun or Trevor, but he can manage our offense, which will focus more on ball control rather than a quick score.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 6:50 PM
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Essentially his freshmen year? I didn't realize guys were essentially freshmen until halfway through their careers. He'd been at Clemson for 2 years by the bowl game and was still making the same high school level mistakes.
Our offense lacks the outside playmakers and the offensive line play to be successful with a game manager at QB. If all he's going to do is be a game manager we're in for another year of one of the worst offenses in football.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 7:06 PM
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Come on dude. He played one year. Make your points but don’t be silly.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 20, 2024, 8:18 PM
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I'm the one being silly because I don't buy that a guy who's gone through spring and summer twice isn't "basically a freshman"? If you want to call a guy who missed their first year because of injury that kept them from participating in camp and practicing "basically a freshman" fine, but Cade wasn't that. He enrolled early. He hasn't had a serious injury to cost him real time. He was not "basically a freshman" just because he didn't start. All you're doing is making up excuses.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 8:21 PM
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I’m violating my rule about arguing with morons, so I’ll stop now. You’re just angry at life. Take a few deep breaths and watch a good comedy movie.
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Its just odd how some dudes choose to look at life.
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Apr 20, 2024, 10:10 PM
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I guess forcing yourself to find something to b!tch about is the way a lot of these entitled younger folks choose to live. Strange, but true. Griping about everything is the way now I guess.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 20, 2024, 8:27 PM
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He was essentially a Freshman from a playing perspective but not a learning perspective. He has basically practiced for 2 years and played for one.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 20, 2024, 8:46 PM
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Agree. He has only one year of playing experience, which was what I was simply trying to convey in my original point that got blown way out of proportion. Last year he had no playing experience. I think he’ll be better this year.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 20, 2024, 8:47 PM
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Agree. He has only one year of playing experience, which was what I was simply trying to convey in my original point that got blown way out of proportion. Last year he had no playing experience. I think he’ll be better this year.
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Two radically different systems.
Apr 20, 2024, 10:14 PM
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He was a freshman last year if you consider the whole picture. No, he’s not Trevor Lawrence or Deshaun Watson, but he has tremendous skill which made him a 5 star player.
He will be a sophomore in this system. Time to put up or sit down.
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Yes youre being completely irrational and ignorant towards the game.
Apr 20, 2024, 10:08 PM
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Most often QBs take time to develop. Cade has raw skills, obviously, and he’s a more typical QB in that they’re really not ready until their junior and senior seasons. Your take looks awfully ignorant when taken in the context of the game and the way it’s always been.
Do you buddy. But if Cade takes some steps forward I fully expect to see you back claiming the ignorance.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 21, 2024, 7:42 AM
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Cade did two things dj could never do, he beat notre dame and won an acc championship.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 20, 2024, 7:31 PM
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Bowl game. Also, i think he will have more weapons this year with a better OL.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 7:33 PM
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No. Cade is bad in every aspect of the game and he’s dumb. He NEVER improved on his decision making. He can’t run. He’s not agile enough to get going. Goes down on touches. Pocket presence is non existent. Can’t read a defense. Doesn’t make any presnap changes because he’s clueless. What did I leave out?
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 8:44 PM
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You left out that you know nothing about football …….
Which to most is pretty evident!
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 21, 2024, 12:00 AM
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100. Thanks for saving me some typing
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 21, 2024, 12:02 AM
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Enough to beat FSU, twice maybe, and reclaim our conference title. Enough to make the 12 team playoff and win at least one game. Beyond that, I don’t know. But it’s a couple of steps forward.
Will we beat Georgia? I doubt it. Just being honest. We’ll be 12-14 point underdogs most likely. But I’m counting on the defense to keep the game closer than that, and if we can avoid turnovers, not lose the field position battle, and enter the fourth quarter in a one score game, then anything can happen.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 6:58 PM
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One great drive does not cover up the rest of his poor play. We saw the same Cade in the spring game. Based on what we have seen up to this point he is every bit as bad if not worse than DJ. I’d argue worse because DJ didn’t turn it over as much.
Now is there a chance Cade finally puts it together. Yeah sure, it’s possible. We just can’t say as we sit here today that we are better off with Cade. No proof.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
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Apr 20, 2024, 8:45 PM
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Uhhhhhhh, you forgot about DJ’s perfect handoffs to opposing players for touchdowns.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 20, 2024, 11:51 PM
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I was about to mention that very thing. You beat me to it. People have short memories when it comes to DJU. Anybody remember NC State for example? Or the SC game? Cade is much better.
Don’t forget that we’ve seen significant changes at OC since Cade has arrived. The instability has surely affected him. Now he’s entering his second season with the same OC. Let’s see how he does. I agree that he needs to prove himself on the field. It’s time for him to show what he can do.
One more thing. I blame a lot of our ills last year on more than just the QB. First of all, the opposing defense was on him before he could make any reads. I think the OL will be better this year. The receivers were subpar last year. I think our corps will be much improved. There was something odd about several exchanges between Cade and Shipley last year. That cost us a couple of games. Let’s just say I don’t blame Cade for that. And why we tried to run Shipley into the teeth of the defense time and time and time again, I will never know. I’m glad Will Shipley was a Tiger, but I think our run game will take a step forward this year.
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Difference in their Sophomore...
Apr 20, 2024, 6:33 PM
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seasons are night and day. He's never played at the low levels we've seen DJ sporadically return-
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No its not as bad.
Apr 20, 2024, 7:31 PM
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DJU is a total DISASTER. He’s been inept everywhere he’s played in college football. We are MUCH BETTER off with Cade.
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Not gonna lie, looks better than Cade
Apr 20, 2024, 4:52 PM
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That last completion was a dart.
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Re: Not gonna lie, looks better than Cade
Apr 20, 2024, 5:01 PM
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He threw a straight up interception few plays before that but the DB just dropped it.
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Saw that one
Apr 20, 2024, 5:02 PM
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My opinion remains
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About even overall record-wise with DJ ahead by inch
Apr 20, 2024, 5:07 PM
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but Cade beat Coots his last attempt but w/o a freaking TD.
I’d say Tiger FB is still Not in a Natty win situation this year and maybe not even in a few years down the road since our boat may has passed since no proven elite QB in 3-4 years..and not taking transfers to speed up the process of inserting better players quickly.
I do like Dabo’s high school player recruiting mantra and bringing those loyal players along in the system, BUT.
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Nailed it LBB
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Apr 20, 2024, 5:36 PM
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We won’t be real contenders until we get another stud QB
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Re: Nailed it LBB
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Apr 20, 2024, 6:12 PM
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Which is at least 3-4 years away without a change to the portal philosophy. Hebert is another Vizzina - solid against bad high school competition but isn't ready to come in and make a difference quickly.
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Re: Nailed it LBB
Apr 20, 2024, 6:24 PM
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and a good offensive line!!!!!!
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Re: About even overall record-wise with DJ ahead by inch
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DJU lost to Notre Dame (away), Cade beat Notre Dame (home).
DJU lost to SC (home*), Cade beat SC (away).
Cade rescued us in the ACC Championship game vs. UNC that DJ was no doubt going to lose.
DJU lost to Georgia throwing a pick 6. Cade? TBD.
I think Cade has performed better than DJU so far. He hasn’t been a generational QB like some people predicted, but I feel more confident with him under center (figuratively speaking) than DJU. I used to cringe every snap with DJU. I’m willing to wait and see what Cade can do this year.
*That SC game still makes me sick to my stomach.
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Just tuned in, all the fans must be on the camera side
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Apr 20, 2024, 4:56 PM
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of the stadium. The other side looks empty.
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Re: Just tuned in, all the fans must be on the camera side
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Apr 20, 2024, 5:02 PM
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Definately not on the other side. It gone.
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He is talented enough
Apr 20, 2024, 5:41 PM
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With enough talent around him to win 10-11 games. Cade hasn’t proven he can do that yet.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 20, 2024, 5:50 PM
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That new helmet communication thing this year may be the thing that can make the difference with DJ. He's always struggled trying to figure out pre-snap reads and what the defense is doing. Now the coaches will be able to give him a clue.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 20, 2024, 7:25 PM
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It will be turned off with15 seconds remaining on the play clock or when the ball is snapped so the opposing team could change it up after that.
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Will he even be the starter for the Noles in the fall?***
Apr 20, 2024, 7:17 PM
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Re: Will he even be the starter for the Noles in the fall?***
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I hope he’s their starter.
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 21, 2024, 11:37 AM
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That's why he is not in the NFL unfortunately
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Re: DJ looks like same ole DJ right now
Apr 21, 2024, 4:07 PM
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Mark my words that by the start of the season he will NOT be the starting QB for FSU!
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