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All-In [42384]
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Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 8:03 AM
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Since he's the new darling of the MAGA movement and the guy y'all think needs to be the next president.
When he was a Congressman in 2013 and Hurricane Sandy hit, he opposed federal aid to NY and spoke publicly about it, calling it a "credit card mentality".
Now he's asking Biden for hurricane relief money and said it's time to put politics aside.
Help us understand how this isn't rank hypocrisy. And if you deflect or "whatabout", that's just your way of admitting that it's a bad look and you don't have a defense for it.
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Video of said full stmt?***
Oct 3, 2022, 8:10 AM
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All-In [42384]
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Which one?
Oct 3, 2022, 8:12 AM
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Is this a "if I don't have a video, I'm gonna claim it didn't happen" kinda response?
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CU Medallion [73569]
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I just want to see if you have evidence to back up
Oct 3, 2022, 8:18 AM
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Your claim. Y'all still think trump call white supremacists good people so forgive me if I don't trust anything coming from the left. When someone says they are selling baby body parts, you don't believe cause it's so easily to splice someone saying they are selling baby body parts.
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All-In [42384]
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In his most recent interview...
Oct 3, 2022, 8:26 AM
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Where he said he needs federal help, it was on Tucker, so I know you saw it. The previous quotes you can look up in multiple news outlets. They're real. You've deflected, so that means you admit this is rank hypocrisy and a bad look.
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CU Medallion [73569]
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All I'm asking is for link so I can see
Oct 3, 2022, 8:31 AM
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Exactly what he said and context. You always ask me for links.
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All-In [42384]
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Tell me what source is acceptable to you
Oct 3, 2022, 8:40 AM
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Or what sources aren't, and I'll help you out from there. Not going to get you a legitimate source only to be met with "lol NY Times" or some #### like that.
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CU Medallion [73569]
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You said it was on Fox news
Oct 3, 2022, 8:43 AM
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That should be easy to find
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CU Medallion [73569]
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It'll give me enough info to make an informed
Oct 3, 2022, 8:45 AM
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Judgement. Else I'm flying blind
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His comments about asking for aid, yes
Oct 3, 2022, 9:44 AM
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They were on Tucker. You can go view them if you want.
I thought you wanted the ones from Sandy?
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Not surprised your going All the Waaay back to
Oct 3, 2022, 4:48 PM
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2013.
Geez, can't you come up with something he said in kindergarden?
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All-In [42384]
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Why do that?
Oct 3, 2022, 8:22 PM
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His maturity is still pretty on par with that age.
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Re: Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 8:12 AM
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No defense, but would take him in a minute over any Dem candidate.
Shocker that DeSantis, a politician, would be a hypocrite.
Nope. No defense of his actions re: Sandy and now asking for Federal money and assistance.
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Thank you for the honest answer.***
Oct 3, 2022, 8:25 AM
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Re: Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 8:23 AM
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He wants to be president and he needs Florida.
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You're a DeSantis supporter? Welcome***
Oct 3, 2022, 8:32 AM
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Re: You're a DeSantis supporter? Welcome***
Oct 3, 2022, 8:39 AM
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I am not a supporter of anyone at the moment. I would take DeSantis over Trump of course.
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Re: Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 8:47 AM
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Lmao at the desantis haters pulling from 2013 to try and calm him a hypocrite, while also providing no evidence of his statement. I know you didn't even know who desantis was in 2013, so your memory is not the reason you brought this up.
It's a news article from the New York Times (who you say is a balanced news source) and you got a tiny little boner when you saw it and ran to tigernet to post.
But thanks for putting this out.... this just in! Politicians are hypocrites! Wow! Thanks for pointing that out catahoula! Just look at the democrats view on the filibuster, packing the Supreme Court, or objecting to electors in elections.
If this is the worst way desantis is a hypocrite then he must be doing something right.
I decided to look at the article though and I noticed you didn't provide any context. Here is a quote from the article on why desantis voted against it. Do you know what was all on the bill? I don't, and I'm not going to spend time looking through
"Mr. DeSantis said the bill contained “extraneous stuff” that could not be classified as emergency spending. “I never made the point of saying we shouldn’t do anything,” he said, adding that he could have supported a leaner package focused on immediate relief. Asked then if he would vote against a relief package that affected his own district, Mr. DeSantis was noncommittal, suggesting he would support a responsible plan."
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CU Medallion [73569]
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Lmao! THIS is why we need context
Oct 3, 2022, 8:49 AM
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Thank you. Good job sleuth
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Re: Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 8:55 AM
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I saw even Marco opposed it for a bit this week. They just want to be more efficient is what I gather.
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"Der herp he didn't reply fast enough!"
Oct 3, 2022, 9:57 AM
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Go watch your "How to post pictures properly" tutorial, grandpa.
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Re: So...
Oct 3, 2022, 9:50 AM
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He will suffer much worse if he fails in Florida.
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Re: So...
Oct 3, 2022, 10:01 AM
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I dont know if he's hypocritical in this situation on or not. Do you know what was in the bill, or are you just parroting NYT with 0 additional research?
The context you left off and didn't want us to read shows why desantis didn't vote for the bill. This is why you refused to name your source or even post the article.
I don't know what was in the bill and I'm not going to spend my time looking.
Even if he was hypocritical in this situation, it is very very minor. We are talking 10 years, 2 different situations, 2 different bills.
Has desantis done some hypocritical things in his time in office? I bet he has! Every politician is hypocritical. You apparently don't care about any of the others. You just are starting a bad case of desantis derangement syndrome, and any time you see something negative about him you get super excited.
#### you probably think differently now than you did 10 years ago. Does that make you a hypocrite?
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He, along with many others voted against the Sandy bill
Oct 3, 2022, 8:50 AM
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because of all the "pork" tacked on that had nothing to do with relief from Hurricane Sandy (I refuse to call it anything but a hurricane, but New Englanders can't have a hurricane hit that area).
Typical liberal cherry picking for a headline.
Go look it up if you're so inclined
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Did you look into what "pork" was in it?...
Oct 3, 2022, 11:22 AM
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serious question
I did, to some extent, and I'm not sure that was that much there (at least not in the context of the federal government). I'd be wiling to bet there was more pork in a lot of other things he supported.
To me, the lack of offsets was a more defendable position.
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I don't like Trump but I like DeSantis
Oct 3, 2022, 8:57 AM
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your TDS is showing
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Thank you for admitting his hypocrisy.***
Oct 3, 2022, 9:45 AM
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Re: Thank you for admitting his hypocrisy.***
Oct 3, 2022, 10:05 AM
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Y’all got owned.
“He, along with many others voted against the Sandy bill User Logo wilbur82® posted 1 hour ago All-In [39469 pts / 100%] because of all the "pork" tacked on that had nothing to do with relief from Hurricane Sandy (I refuse to call it anything but a hurricane, but New Englanders can't have a hurricane hit that area).
Typical liberal cherry picking for a headline.
Go look it up if you're so inclined”
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now we know why he didnt want to post a link
Oct 3, 2022, 10:11 AM
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It seems he disgreed with the pork laden bill, not relief. But you will never get cata to admit that so not even worth the effort.
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DDS will replace TDS soon***
Oct 3, 2022, 10:15 AM
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Re: Thank you for admitting his hypocrisy.***
Oct 3, 2022, 10:29 AM
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Independents at work again. No Republican save Liz Cheney will ever be good enough for them.
Liz Cheney voted w/ trump 95% of the time, but she is a strong Republican and Trump is the next coming of hitler.
These tiny brained chodes don't know what they want or like. All they know is anything that Trump does is bad.
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Re: Thank you for admitting his hypocrisy.***
Oct 3, 2022, 11:00 AM
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One inspired and motivated this, the other condemned it.
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Re: Thank you for admitting his hypocrisy.***
Sep 21, 2014, 10:00 AM
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Cat, do you have a picture of you with your Foot in your Mouth? Try harder. Ya got owned, just admit it!
FJB
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Re: Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 8:57 AM
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This is why desantis is such a good candidate. Almost 0 baggage unlike Trump.
When all libs and "centrists" can come up with is, "derp he's a hypocrite for voting against relief 9 years ago and now he's getting relief" then you know he's doing well. Oh yeah and he's a fascist for his spat with Disney. Completely forgot about that one.
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It will only pick up as 2024 nears. He'll soon be a racist
Oct 3, 2022, 9:11 AM
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Hitler, hate gays, and fascist
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Face it x. He'll be impeached from the Presidency before he
Oct 3, 2022, 10:04 AM
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even gets elected.
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didnt they try to impeach Trump right when he go in office?
Oct 3, 2022, 10:14 AM
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of course, they couldn't, but I think they tried. You know, b/c he stole the election. Back when it was ok to say someone stole an election.
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Nikki in 24!***
Oct 3, 2022, 10:16 AM
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Re: Nikki in 24!***
Oct 3, 2022, 10:20 AM
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Wow! It's not even close.
Oct 3, 2022, 10:43 AM
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The GOP base must have TDS.
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Major shift in the trend... It should continue.***
Oct 4, 2022, 3:25 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83193]
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He's a clown. Burned tax-payer dollars to go to Texas and
Oct 3, 2022, 12:18 PM
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find migrants to send to MV which was just a huge political publicity stunt.
We need sanity back in the WH.
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Re: He's a clown. Burned tax-payer dollars to go to Texas and
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I have a problem because it was a political stunt.***
Oct 3, 2022, 1:10 PM
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Re: I have a problem because it was a political stunt.***
Oct 3, 2022, 4:09 PM
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As expected, the deflection was on brand
Oct 3, 2022, 10:41 AM
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Thanks for admitting he's a hypocrite, guys.
Kudos at least to Mountaineers for flat out saying it, but then coming back and pretty much saying, "But that's okay."
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I seriously doubt that there is any politician of...
Oct 3, 2022, 10:45 AM
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import that hasn't taken hypocritical stances during their career.
Especially when viewed in the context of a back-bencher in the House versus Gov of a state.
Are you suggesting that had you been a DeSantis supporter up to now, that you wouldn't be going forward because of his request for federal aid for his state?
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Re: I seriously doubt that there is any politician of...
Oct 3, 2022, 10:54 AM
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Are you suggesting that had you been a DeSantis supporter up to now, that you wouldn't be going forward because of his request for federal aid for his state?
Nope, not at all. Consider this more of a point for people to pump the brakes on the fanboyism and apply the same criticism to DeSantis as they readily would to other politicians.
In other words, don't apply the same partisan hackery that was applied with Trump. Hold politicians accountable for such behavior.
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Ok...I think it's fair to point it out...
Oct 3, 2022, 11:18 AM
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In your opinion, how would accountability be defined here?
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Re: I seriously doubt that there is any politician of...
Oct 3, 2022, 1:06 PM
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Are you suggesting that had you been a DeSantis supporter up to now, that you wouldn't be going forward because of his request for federal aid for his state?
Nope, not at all. Consider this more of a point for people to pump the brakes on the fanboyism and apply the same criticism to DeSantis as they readily would to other politicians.
In other words, don't apply the same partisan hackery that was applied with Trump. Hold politicians accountable for such behavior.
Wow, thanks catahoula for making me pump the breaks on my "fanboyism" of Ron desantis.
I once thought he was a perfect human that has never done anything wrong. Now that you have made this post (intentionally omitting sources), I realize how big of a hypocrite desantis is. I can't believe he voted no for aid 10 years ago, and is now accepting federal aid in florida. What a terrible person. Of course I have no idea what was in each of these bills, but you said so, so desantis is really bad.
I will now reconsider my position on Ron desantis. I no longer hope he runs for president.
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Re: As expected, the deflection was on brand
Oct 3, 2022, 10:49 AM
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Thanks for admitting he's a hypocrite, guys.
Kudos at least to Mountaineers for flat out saying it, but then coming back and pretty much saying, "But that's okay."
Lmao. You made a post on tigernet with 0 sources. When asked, you refused because you didn't want any of us to read the article. You don't know what was in either bill, and you are parroting what the embarrassing NYT tells you.
I don't know if this should be labeled as hypocrisy since I don't have both bills in front of me. Do you? He said he voted no because of added pork to the bill. You intentionally left that out. Wonder why?
Again, has desantis had some hypocritical moments in his time in office? Most likely. The fact that you bring this one up shows how little people actually have on desantis. If you expect someone who has been in politics for 10+ years, they are going to have hypocritical moments. That goes for everybody.
You got owned in this thread. Just admit it.
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Re: As expected, the deflection was on brand
Oct 3, 2022, 10:56 AM
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Sources are easily provided, but this is a major story all of you already heard about. Yes, you did.
I can link them but you'll just dismiss them. Even Xtiger was trying to play the "video or it didn't happen" crap.
The only people who got owned were the fan boys who became hostile because someone criticized their new sacred cow. Serious self owning.
Anyone who gets mad at someone criticizing a politician needs some serious self reflection.
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Re: As expected, the deflection was on brand
Oct 3, 2022, 11:25 AM
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You're telling me this is a major story that I've heard about? Uhhh no I hadn't until your dumbarse post.
You didn't post the link because you didn't want us to read the additional comments in the article by desantis.
You still don't know if it was hypocrisy or not because you don't know what was in each bill. You just believe what the biased NYT tells you and then run on here to try and bash desantis. Embarrassing even for you.
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i love how he's trying to declare winning when he got
Oct 3, 2022, 2:16 PM
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owned in this thread. He tried to pass part of Desantis's words off as something else and got caught. I knew when he typed out his words and didnt link, something was up.
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I didn't pass them off as anything else
Oct 4, 2022, 8:52 AM
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He said what he said. Spoon later put in a link. You, like always, tried to deflect and play the "what's your source that I'm not going to accept" game, which means you also admit DeSantis ###### up here.
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Here is what I believe is a fair analysis of his votes...
Oct 3, 2022, 10:42 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/30/hurricane-relief-votes-hypocrisy/
I believe there is some hypocrisy between his position now as Governor and previously as a member of The House.
Frankly, I agree with the spirit of his comments on the Sandy bills. There should have been off-sets at some level. Just as there should be for any relief now. However, I've given up on that level of true fiscal conservatism for the time being and I would be happy with just a first step conservative shift right now.
DeSantis would not me my #1 choice for GOP nominee for POTUS, but I could easily vote for him over Trump in a primary and it would be an easy vote for him in the general election over any dem.
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Re: Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 11:45 AM
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Possible he could fly a few thousand migrants in from Texas to help with the cleanup, then he would not need to have his hand out to the fed.
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Are you channeling Nancy Pelosi?
Oct 4, 2022, 7:22 AM
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On Sept. 30, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi stumbled into ethnic stereotyping in criticizing Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis for transferring Venezuelan migrants to Martha's Vineyard.
"You see, in Florida," said Pelosi, "some of the farmers and growers say, 'Why are you shipping these immigrants up north? We need them to pick the crops down here.'"
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Serious question - why is rounding up a bunch of
Oct 4, 2022, 9:28 AM
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illegals and sending them across state lines under false pretenses (or any pretense) not illegal in some way? Is it not harboring or trafficking across state lines or something?
Genuine question, not looking for a fight
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Re: Serious question - why is rounding up a bunch of
Oct 4, 2022, 11:52 AM
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the people Desantis flew to MV where not illegals, they had refugee status and were allowed to travel freely thoughout the country. The issue was that someone working underDesantis told them they would have jobs, places to live, and prosperity waiting for them, evenwent so faras to make fake brochures, yet MV had no idea they were arrving.
whether laws were broken, IDK, but morally and ethically, it was a bankrupt move.
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Ahhhh, nice, thank you for the clarification!***
Oct 4, 2022, 3:12 PM
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Re: Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 12:53 PM
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Right, we better stay away from every electing a guy like this. Surely not.
He graduated from Yale University and Harvard Law School. DeSantis joined the United States Navy in 2004, where he was promoted to lieutenant before serving as an advisor to SEAL Team One and being deployed to Iraq in 2007. When he returned to the U.S. a year later, the U.S. Department of Justice appointed DeSantis to serve as a Special Assistant U.S. attorney at the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Middle District of Florida, a position he held until his honorable discharge in 2010.
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Your and CA’s quest against MAGAs has become Quixote-esque.
Oct 3, 2022, 1:06 PM
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Sometimes you just look silly trying to dunk on a windmill.
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Like dunking on an 8 year old….
Oct 3, 2022, 8:19 PM
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On a lowered rim—you know it’s not fair but it’s still fun.
But hey! Look at all these people here who admitted DeSantis is a hypocrite!
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What’s the point?
Oct 3, 2022, 9:15 PM
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Did you get someone to change their mind? Did anyone think he had a purity of mission that was so unwavering that he could never be accused of hypocrisy? I guess I don’t get the point of the thread.
Every politician is guilty of hypocrisy at some point. Their detractors say it shows moral fluidity and their supporters say it shows cognitive growth and evolution. Been happening as long as I can remember.
All I know is that if it came down to DeSantis and Biden, it would be the easiest decision of my voting career.
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That's a great question
Oct 4, 2022, 7:57 AM
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I'll try my best to make sense of the answer.
Remember that awful five in a row vs. the Gamecawks? The "high fives," the "fear the thumb" crap, etc.? How they didn't handle their success well at all, just like we knew they wouldn't.
The MAGA crowd are the Coot fans of the political world. They rubbed Trump in everyone's faces. And if you weren't on their team, you were a "leftist" or a "libtard" (or for those with an especially low IQ, they would use the term "fake independent") and there was no gray area. You were a lesser American if you weren't on Team Trump. Do you not recall how smug they even were on this board?
Like with the Coot fanbase, classlessness wasn't just embraced. It was encouraged. And Trump, like Spurrier, was their holy savior who can do no wrong. Even just this morning, I read a post online from someone asking God to put his anointed leader, Donald Trump, back in office. You do get how mentally disturbing that is, right?
And just like Spurrier, they worshiped a false idol who actually--after a brief flash of success--left the program in shambles so badly that the incompetent successor--Muschamp/Biden--could only make it even worse.
Yesterday, Trump made a comment that Mitch McConnell has a "death wish". And the resident board MAGAophiles barely made a peep. Do you know what kind of screaming outrage they'd have if Biden or Pelosi said that about Trump or one of his loyalists? They flipped out--and rightfully so--at the Darth Biden speech; this is absolutely no different.
Their rank hypocrisy is astounding.
Now they've transferred their blind loyalty to this new darling "tough" man who promises to swing Trump's wrecking ball at democracy again--except this time he actually knows how to operate it. So would it be an easy choice between DeSantis and Biden? No, because if that's our choice, we are truly, truly ###### beyond repair. We either go with the guy who clearly wants to be a despot (just a smart one this time) or continue with a nursing home patient whose orderlies are imbeciles.
Either way, back to my analogy, just like those Coot fans who sneered in our faces for 5 years--these people deserve it. Good and hard. Like a cat that keeps ######## on the carpet out of spite, sometimes the only option is to smash its face in it.
Does that fix the problem? No, but it feels good to make the little ###### get a face full of his own ####.
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Wait, so now you see DeSantis as a despot in waiting?
Oct 4, 2022, 9:41 AM
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c'mon bro.......sometimes a politician is just a politician.
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I'm looking at the track record in Florida
Oct 4, 2022, 9:58 AM
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Pretty strong authoritarianism streak and punitive measures against people/businesses with different views than him. Plus, the full-on embracing of Trumpism, which was a clumsier version of what he's doing.
Can't see how he doesn't try to do this as president, especially if he has a GOP Congress and conservative SCOTUS.
Let's maybe go back to electing leaders who don't see themselves as little monarchs. It's been a while.
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Re: Help us out, DeSantis fan boys
Oct 3, 2022, 2:19 PM
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This is the spin your echo chamber gives you?
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