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Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 23, 2023, 5:04 PM
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The one where he is conspiring with the big guy to commit bribery
Is that “evidence” or “proof”?
Or are you going to destroy the IRS whistle blowers life?
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 23, 2023, 5:07 PM
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 25, 2023, 3:48 PM
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I think blackmail/extortion is demanding money or something of value while threatening something (other than money) as a consequence.
Bribery is offering (or withholding money) in exchange for doing something for you.
For the benefit of those young’uns who were born yesterday and don’t know how things work in the old soviet bloc….
Shokin was extorting/blackmailing Biden when he found out Hunter Biden was laundering money to the big guy while he was doing Burisma’s bidding
Biden being a skilled crooked politician pulled the end around power play and bribed the president of Ukraine to can & discredit Shokin - and he did it with our money…
Pretty simple standard play. You don’t have to be John Nash to figure it out
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
Jun 26, 2023, 11:06 AM
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That H.Biden was mad when communicating with the Chinese guy, and that the timeframe here 2017 was after Biden was no longer VP means something as far as Hunter’s demeanor.
Biden crime family had no leverage at that time. There was also little reason in 2017 for the Chinese to suspect that J.Biden would miraculously ascend to the presidency.
Negotiators who have lost their leverage typically express anger.
On the other hand, negotiators who possess leverage are typically cool.
Remember ‘cool’ J.Biden the VP who bragged to Ukraine’s leaders that Biden would see to it that $1B in US aid would not happen if Ukraine didn’t immediately fire the prosecutor who was investigating Hunter? That was a blackmail situation. You (Ukraine) do something or else I (J.Biden) will take something away from you ($1 B).
Hunter, on the other hand, expected compensation from the Chinese. Furthermore, like a vendor selling something (policy favors?), Biden’s delivered on their goods and was trying to collect the bill. This is bribery.
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 23, 2023, 5:10 PM
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Text from HB to Chinese bidness man:
"I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight," Hunter Biden allegedly wrote.
Sounds just like one of the macho biden men - throwing their weight around with shirt unbuttoned and shades on. Sick.
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 23, 2023, 5:22 PM
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
Jun 26, 2023, 7:56 PM
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Hunter Biden joined the burisma BOD in 2014 numbnutz
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Heysoos, that’s what you got proving Joe Biden
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Jun 23, 2023, 7:26 PM
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Was involved? For real? That’s it? Y’all arguing Trump didn’t say #### he was RECORDED saying and your smoking gun on Biden is he was mentioned by a crack addict?
I just remembered why I never come to P&R anymore.
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'tis a silly place***
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Yea, we all know who and what's "silly"... You'll see.***
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Jun 23, 2023, 10:47 PM
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Re: 'tis a silly place***
Jun 24, 2023, 7:22 AM
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But Trump is totally innocent amirite?
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something something whataboutism
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Jun 24, 2023, 7:25 AM
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I thought it was a bad thing, but we can roll with it
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Re: something something whataboutism
Jun 24, 2023, 10:30 AM
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This was on topic.
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It really would be silly
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Jun 23, 2023, 11:02 PM
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If he actually wasn’t taking in millions from these foreign entities.
Going “OMG ITS JUST A TEXT” is kind of ignoring the fact that they weren’t just paying this unqualified crackhead millions for his stock tips. How much smoke is needed before the possibility of a fire is even admitted much less ceasing being denied like it’s crazy?
It’s like Occam’s razor is just straight out the window for the left on this one.
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
Jun 23, 2023, 6:49 PM
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The one that says “my dad is totally right here next to me! Do as i says!”
Sounds like a crack head bribing people to me. Gonna need some hard evidence Biden was involved.
The fact that impeachment proceedings haven’t started tells me pubs don’t have that evidence. If/when they do, I’m all for impeachment.
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
Jun 23, 2023, 7:16 PM
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There is no formal evidence against Biden because the DoJ must formally recognize the recordings as evidence.
That will not happen outright.
Instead, DoJ will contort itself to twist the language in the recording to mean something other than the obvious.
First step: DoJ will announce that they will investigate this recording.
Second step: DoJ reports, due to the complexity of the message, that it will take ~ 1.5 years to interpret it.
Third step: After 2024 fake election takes place, the DoJ will enter into evidence that it was actually Trump who made the recording posing as Joe and DeSantis as the other guy posing as Hunter.
Capital punishment is restored on a one time basis, with medieval methods justified as fitting Grump’s and DeSantis’ crime.
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
Jun 23, 2023, 7:20 PM
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I’m not sure if it’s impressive or concerning that you can draw up a conspiracy about pretty much everything.
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I'm not sure if it's impressive or delirious that you can
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Jun 23, 2023, 10:52 PM
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ideny the obvious about something so blatant.
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Re: I'm not sure if it's impressive or delirious that you can
Jun 24, 2023, 10:32 AM
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Show me hard obvious evidence that Joe was involved.
I’ve seen crackhead emails/messages so far.
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How predictable....Moving the goal post again aren't you...
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Jun 24, 2023, 2:08 PM
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At some point one would think that a little intellectual honesty would enter your brain and override your partisan tinted glasses. At this point you are either being willfully obtuse or are so partisan you don't care what the Biden's have done since they obviously align with your political beliefs.
You: Show me proof. Ok - Hunter Biden's laptop is crammed full of elicit activities and business dealings that has been verified as real. Some of Hunter's old business partners have even stated the "big guy" is Joe Biden.
You: That's Russian disinformation... oops that one doesn't work anymore... Ok, Ok.. - the "big guy" could have been anyone and the old business partners just have an axe to grind...
You: Show me proof. Ok - two IRS whistle blowers have produced validated text messages that the Government gathered as evidence that pretty much lay out a pay for play barter session.
You: Nope - not good enough as Hunter could be lying - ya know he's a crackhead. Show me proof.
At this point - what proof is acceptable for you to at least admit - something is rotten in the Biden family and it ain't just Hunter?? Are you expecting a hi-def video with a soundtrack produced by Hollywood??
The funny thing is even if the Government were to somehow get actual video of Joe and Hunter taking a bribe you would probably do some kind of mental gymnastic to ignore it as "nothing to see here"....
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Re: How predictable....Moving the goal post again aren't you...
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Jun 24, 2023, 3:35 PM
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I’ve said repeatedly that Hunter is definitely involved in illicit activity and that Biden almost certainly is too.
What i have not seen is evidence that wouldn’t hold up in court that Joe was involved.
Also, please show me where I said the russian’s were involved? I’m not interested in your fox news regurgitation.
Due to the BS “policy” that a sitting president can’t be indicted, you are SOL until he’s out of office. We’ll see if anyone ponies up the evidence to get that indictment.
I don’t see it happening.
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Re: How predictable....Moving the goal post again aren't you...
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Jun 24, 2023, 5:57 PM
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For the record, I think his admission that he used billions government dollars to get the prosecutor fired that was looking into his dealings with Burisma is enough evidence to send him away.
But, do you honestly think the DOJ and the FBI are in pursuit of admissible evidence?
I submit they are doing all they can to bury and conceal it because they know darn well if the democrats lose the White House and congress in 2024 there will be total hell to pay.
Would you agree that it is decidedly against their (DOJ & FBI) best interests to find anything that comes back on the big guy?
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Re: How predictable....Moving the goal post again aren't you...
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Jun 24, 2023, 6:56 PM
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For the record, I think his admission that he used billions government dollars to get the prosecutor fired that was looking into his dealings with Burisma is enough evidence to send him away.
That is incorrect. Here, just read this. I know wikipedia doesn't count as reality for some of the knuckle-draggers around here (not saying this about you, 81), but there are footnotes to other sources that a person could read if they were literate and capable of independent thought.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Shokin
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Re: How predictable....Moving the goal post again aren't you...
Jun 24, 2023, 7:33 PM
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Re: How predictable....Moving the goal post again aren't you...
Jun 24, 2023, 7:57 PM
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He was fired for failing to investigate corruption in Ukraine, including Burisma. You can prove us wrong by showing us the facts that Shokin had uncovered involving Brandon. We'll wait while you provide us with that. 😆
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Re: How predictable....Moving the goal post again aren't you...
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Jun 25, 2023, 1:46 PM
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Riiiiight
You act like you were born yesterday
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Re: How predictable....Moving the goal post again aren't you...
Jun 25, 2023, 2:43 PM
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You are welcome to disprove that. Still waiting.
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Re: Just curious … negotiations primer for Birm
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Jun 23, 2023, 8:44 PM
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Darn. I was hoping that you’d have figured out the answer to your own question by now.
No worries, Birm, I’m here for you.
Hunter was mad that the Chinese were late on their payment.
Here’s a lesson in negotiations (this will be an elementary lesson, appropriate for the Biden’s tactics and for newbies):
If one side is angry, then that side has little leverage.
On the other hand, if that same side is cool, then they have leverage.
In 2017, the Biden family had lost much of their leverage. They had already given the Chinese what the Chinese had wanted, but had not gotten their bribe payout in return before Brandon left office. Biden family’s only leverage rested on the possibility that Joe would make to either the presidency or vice presidency after the 2020 election. Apparently the Bidens were not successful in threatening to withhold Hunter’s professional expertise from the Chinese.
Therefore, Hunter, being a novice negotiator, tipped his hand by getting mad. Holding his duck in his hand wasn’t much of a threat.
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Re: Just curious … negotiations primer for Birm
Jun 23, 2023, 10:52 PM
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I'll ask again. What's the impeachable offense? Joe was a private citizen in July of 2017. 😆
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Are you REALLY that stupid...?***
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Jun 23, 2023, 10:59 PM
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Re: Are you REALLY that stupid...?***
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Actually , yes, he is.
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Re: Are you REALLY that stupid...?***
Jun 24, 2023, 9:17 AM
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You don't have anything either. LOLOLOLOL
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Re: Are you REALLY that stupid...?***
Jun 24, 2023, 9:16 AM
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I'm guessing you can't come up with any charges either.
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Re: Just curious … negotiations primer for Birm
Jun 24, 2023, 9:13 PM
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Stare decisis.
Trump was impeached for 2nd time on Jan. 13, 2021 … when Trump was not president.
The record of Biden family’s conversation with China to pay up occurred in 2017 … when Biden was not president.
What this means is that precedent exists for a person who is not president at the time of a crime can be impeached.
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Re: Just curious … negotiations primer for Birm
Jun 25, 2023, 2:44 PM
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How about you provide us with an actual impeachable offense. Still waiting.
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Re: Just curious … negotiations primer for Birm
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Jun 25, 2023, 3:31 PM
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Let’s be real…
Joe Biden could be holding a smoking gun with a dead man 5 feet in front of him and you would still be blabbering “show me some real evidence”
It’s funny because you were leading the charge and connecting all the dots when CNN trotted out the Steele Dossier weren’t you? Eh comrade?
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Re: Just curious … negotiations primer for Birm
Jun 25, 2023, 4:42 PM
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What's wrong Baw? Coming up empty?
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Re: Just curious … negotiations primer for Birm
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Jun 26, 2023, 11:04 AM
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I’ll take your redirect and obligatory gif as an admission of overwhelming bias and guilt…
You just require overwhelming evidence when it suits your politics, don’t you?
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 23, 2023, 7:04 PM
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They are too busy jerking each other off to whatever made up BS Adam Schiff tells them. He certain knows the IQ of his true believers.
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 23, 2023, 9:51 PM
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They are too busy jerking each other off to whatever made up BS Adam Schiff tells them. He certain knows the IQ of his true believers.
Which is somewhere around 60
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He's a crack addict has been mentioned twice as a defense
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Is that what we are running with?
He's a crack head so it doesn't count
If I'm following along correctly, it's okay for him to do and say this because he's a crack head. Which means that the boxes of documents secured in the garage by the Corvette could have easily been compromised by a crack head. But that wouldn't matter because he's just a crack head doing crack head things.
I'm all for innocent until proven guilty. I'm just surprised that "he's a crack head" is the defense. Imagine if the "I'm an addict" alibi worked for everyone. Prison would be a lonely place for non-addicts.
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He must have been a pretty highly functioning crackhead
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Jun 26, 2023, 10:22 AM
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to be making major coin at a foreign oil company with zero experience.
I only use crack recreationally, and I couldn't down that sort of job.
Heck, I can't even get my brother's wife to bang me.
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 24, 2023, 9:16 AM
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$5M pops into an account linked to HB within days after the text.
There's too much here to ignore.
"I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight," Hunter Biden allegedly wrote.
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
Jun 26, 2023, 11:17 AM
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Let's pretend this is accurate. What law was broken?
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Re: Just curious what the liberals think of the text from Hunter
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Jun 27, 2023, 5:03 PM
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Conspiracy to commit bribery
Tax evasion
Money laundering
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