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All-In [27439]
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Will the football team ever reimpose the social media ban?
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Aug 28, 2023, 9:31 AM
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I know a lot of factors go into winning a national championship but, I will always believe the self-imposed social media ban was a pivotal part of Clemson football's climb up that mountain. I know that would be near impossible now with NIL, but it just seemed like those teams were so much more focused and dedicated than the last few years....
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Re: Will the football team ever reimpose the social media ban?
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Aug 28, 2023, 9:48 AM
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I think your last sentence nailed it. NIL requires marketing, which a lot of them get through SM. No way a self imposed ban happens again IMO.
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Not in the NIL era. The ban had nothing to do .....
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Aug 28, 2023, 9:50 AM
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with winning national championships. We were more talented than everyone else. We are not now.
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Getting rid of a distraction had nothing to do with it?
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Aug 28, 2023, 11:01 AM
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That was one of the cornerstones of being all in.
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Re: Not in the NIL era. The ban had nothing to do .....
Aug 30, 2023, 8:27 AM
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That's really not true. Someone with talent who then works hard and has great coaching will be better than someone with talent who doesn't. But talent will always win out. I played ball with 6 different NFL players. Two of the best were extremely lazy, but their talent just far surpassed anyone else. If you're naturally faster and stronger than everyone else, you'll be better. Look at how many self-centered QBs are in the NFL. How many Chase Brices? Your idea might be "feel good," but it's also demonstrably false
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I 110% agree that our best teams were off social media..
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Aug 28, 2023, 9:51 AM
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but believe Coach can’t even think about going back to those days due to how the world has changed socially & politically..
what with players now being independent agents and not pawns to any authority thus the term “team” takes on another meaning.
Do you?
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Re: I 110% agree that our best teams were off social media..
Aug 28, 2023, 10:11 AM
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wishful thinking i guess...
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Re: I 110% agree that our best teams were off social media..
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Aug 28, 2023, 2:40 PM
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This year will determine if Dabo stays or walks off. If the Colorado and Free Shoes can buy players that even the NFL can’t do, we are scrod, if I can use the superlative subjunctive.
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Re: I 110% agree that our best teams were off social media..
Aug 28, 2023, 7:13 PM
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As long as that is the prevalent, overarching, thought, then it will not change. I dont agree that they HAVE to be on social media. It is achoice they have to make, as a team
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Re: I am afraid we are fully into the generation now that was
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Aug 28, 2023, 10:12 AM
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thats why i leave my phone in the truck on Sunday morns
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Re: I am afraid we are fully into the generation now that was
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Aug 28, 2023, 12:01 PM
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Yep, I do the same. Pretty simple stuff for the unattached.
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Re: I am afraid we are fully into the generation now that was
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Aug 28, 2023, 7:32 PM
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None of these kids even know they can talk on the phone with it against their ears! It’s all typing and AirPods with mics in them.
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Re: I am afraid we are fully into the generation now that was
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Aug 29, 2023, 6:35 PM
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I know exactly what you're talking about. Funny thing though is that a majority of the phones that ring in our church belong to people over 65. The most shameful thing I've seen in regards to that was a 70ish year old man who had the gall to answer his phone with "I'm in church, I'll call you back".
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Were those teams more focused or did they just have
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Aug 28, 2023, 10:11 AM
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Generational talent across the board especially at QB? I'm not hearing any stories about Clemson players creating distractions with controversial social media posts.
The ban really has no impact it was just an example of team cohesiveness; I think we have plenty of that still.
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Re: Were those teams more focused or did they just have
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Aug 28, 2023, 10:17 AM
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I think the ban had significant impact. The hours PER DAY spent scrolling facebook twitter instagram ect. per player were better spent in other areas of life such as watching film, extra workouts, extra sleep, player bonding, school studying, position studying, playbook review, praying, bible study, even maybe a little dating and so on. You cant tell me the lost time on social media and gained time in personal life wasnt beneficial to each and every college athlete on that team....especially the starters. There are only 24hrs a day and when you waste 1-3 hours on social media EVERY day, not only do they add up, the time spent in other areas decline.
Obviously the generational talent was a massive factor, that im not disputing.
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The ban was just for posting on social media they didn't
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Aug 28, 2023, 10:26 AM
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Collect everyones' phones and lock em in a safe until after the season. Let's be honest the players who aren't budgeting their time well didn't magically become great at it because they stopped posting on Twitter a few times a day. They probably found out that they had a little more time to play fortnight.
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Let me ask you this then...
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Aug 28, 2023, 10:58 AM
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Do you think social media has a positive effect on young college athletes?
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Re: Let me ask you this then...
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Aug 28, 2023, 11:07 AM
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I don't think SM has a positive effect on anyone's life, including college kids
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Do you wanna ban everything that someone thinks has a
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Aug 28, 2023, 11:22 AM
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Negative impact? Game consoles, TV, fried chicken, Netflix, taco bell, movies,...
There are a million distractions in the world if a guy isn't self motivated and bought in it makes zero impact if you take away one of em. And again it was just a posting ban they were still free to scroll for hours at a time if they wished.
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Re: Do you wanna ban everything that someone thinks has a
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Aug 28, 2023, 11:48 AM
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I’m not suggesting a ban on anything. I’m simply making the argument that past teams agreed that shutting down social media would be beneficial for the team and their growth. And I believe the proof is in the pudding. It wasn’t “just a posting ban” it was an agreement to stay off the platforms all together.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2548460-clemson-football-bans-players-from-using-social-media-during-regular-season
Heres a good read with quotes from a few former players, before our two recent National Championships.
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Re: This article says they could check their accounts but just
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Aug 28, 2023, 12:55 PM
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So the policy went into effect 08/2012...and almost every single Clemson football fan, and most national talking heads all point to the 12/31/2012 LSU win as "THE" turning point in the program. I dont think that's a coincidence. I am not saying that policy was the biggest factor...far from it....but anyone would be naïve to think it didnt play a part at all.
2012 Clemson instates SM policy...program elevates to higest levels in history even starting a mini-dynasty.
2020 Clemson drops policy and after that season hasnt made it back to the CFP since.
Again I know there was a major drop in talent and coaching which was the ultimate factor, but I still beleive the social media distraction plays a role in performance. DJU wasnt that bad of a player...I think his issues were 1000% mental...and social media has been proven to have a negative impact on mental heath. Who knows, maybe he could have blocked out all the crap and played lights out....we will never know.
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I think signing CJ was the turning point but that's just me
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Aug 28, 2023, 1:19 PM
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We're just gonna have to disagree on this one neither of us is gonna budge.
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Re: I think signing CJ was the turning point but that's just me
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Aug 28, 2023, 1:33 PM
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all good brotha....its what this place is for. Enjoy your week....we got FOOTBALL COMING!!!
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Go Tigers!***
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Aug 28, 2023, 1:52 PM
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Re: Were those teams more focused or did they just have
Aug 28, 2023, 7:17 PM
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If you go back, the bammer team of 2018 was labeled as the "greatest of all time". Their D was stacked with talent. I completely disagree with the idea that no one else had the same talent
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With nil, that's how most of them make nil money so probably
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Aug 28, 2023, 10:20 AM
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not.
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Re: With nil, that's how most of them make nil money so probably
Aug 28, 2023, 10:23 AM
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NIL says no - that’s it - no program will ever ban social media again..
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Re: Will the football team ever reimpose the social media ban?
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Aug 28, 2023, 10:30 AM
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Only if I'm elected President.
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I think the last couple teams have just been less talented
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Aug 28, 2023, 11:07 AM
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but people are looking for other things to pin the blame on. Talent and coaching win CFB games. The last couple of seasons have seen shakeup in the coaching staff and a drop off in talent on the offensive side of the ball.
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yep. The early 2010s teams had the social media ban also
Aug 28, 2023, 2:41 PM
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and couldn't beat SC.
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IMO probably not. Recruiting is much more important
Aug 28, 2023, 11:47 AM
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And teenagers don’t want to be told they can’t be on snap chat, instagram, Facebook. Hopefully they are doing a good job of educating on dangers of using in some ways
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Re: IMO probably not. Recruiting is much more important
Aug 28, 2023, 2:29 PM
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If players cannot use social media how will they send me my "digital football collectibles". (Yes, this is a real thing$)
How will they get a commission if I order the weight lifting supplement on Instagram they endorse? (Yes this is happening)
Gotta hand it to some these guy for figuring out how to run a business.
Head over to instagram and look up players on every team. All over the nation. This is the game now.
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It was player led and should be again.
Aug 28, 2023, 3:04 PM
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We have an NIL department that helps them post stuff....that department can still help manage that aspect of it and the players can self ban themselves for the season.
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