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CU Medallion [60535]
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Gotta love how the second shot
May 5, 2021, 6:52 AM
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is worse than when I had the virus. If I were single and healthy, no way I would get vaccinated. I only did this for my wife and kids. No way if I lived alone I would get the shots.
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Orange Blooded [2883]
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Re: Gotta love how the second shot
May 5, 2021, 7:21 AM
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You are not alone in saying the after effects of the second shot suck. It has kicked my butt for nearly a week. Flu like symptoms sore neck, sore muscles and zero energy. Not been pleasant at all. But at least we should be immunized - at least for a while.
Pfizer shot by the way.
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I see very little benefit
May 5, 2021, 7:27 AM
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in getting the shot. I did it to make my wife happy, that’s really it.
My in laws are vaccinated along with all other older folks in my circle. I would get the virus again before I would get the vaccine again. To each their own.
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Lot o points [163872]
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The benefit is that if people quit getting infected, the
May 5, 2021, 7:34 AM
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virus will have less chance to mutate. Mutations are the biggest risk right now.
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All-In [44355]
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^^This^^. It's bigger than just you. By getting it you are
May 5, 2021, 8:20 AM
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helping control the whole thing. And by not getting it you are putting others at risk.
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But its ALWAYS
May 5, 2021, 8:26 AM
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about tigermanac® and his beta lifestyle.
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CU Medallion [60535]
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Says the brunch master***
May 5, 2021, 8:36 AM
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All-In [40674]
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You're cummin next time, twink.***
May 5, 2021, 8:37 AM
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CU Medallion [60535]
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this is such a lie that has been
May 5, 2021, 8:35 AM
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perpetuated since day one. I have put no one at risk. Heck, I got it and no one in my house got it and I was even with my inlaws for about 5 hours in their house when I had it too.
I wish they would admit, they have very little idea of how it transmits. That would give them more credibility.
You can still get the virus and pass the virus with the vaccine, so why get the vaccine?
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All-In [40674]
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Are you CERTAIN you have put no one at risk?
May 5, 2021, 8:36 AM
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You're 100% sure that no one that you even crossed paths with caught the virus from you when you had it?
I highly doubt you can say you put no one at risk with 100% certainty.
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Wealthy take here, pawski.
May 5, 2021, 8:44 AM
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This is all a lie! BTW I went and got vaccinated. "They" have no idea what's going on. But I did what was recommended. Well, not really. I only did it for others. But others don't need it because they didn't get it from me. Sad, sad, I know people that have died from this. BUT IT'S ONLY LIKE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE. Being positive wasn't all that bad. The shot was terrible though!
Bro do you have a little devil that sits on one shoulder and an angel on the other that both yap in your ear all day?
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CU Medallion [60535]
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I didnt really say anything that you are
May 5, 2021, 9:12 AM
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parodying, but I do think its silly how we are all treating this like we did back in March of last year. The mask thing is just laughable, wear it to your seat, sit there in the recirculated room for hours and then put it back on to leave. Plus if you are not with someone for more than 15 minutes, supposedly you cannot transmit, so how is me walking out of the restaurant a health hazard?
Everything is so arbitrary that its maddening.
Get the vaccine, but you can still get it and pass it. STAY HOME AND QUARANTINE or you will kill grandma. Comingle positive elderly with negative, 40% of deaths come from nursing homes. But that is why we locked down.
So stupid.
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Fauci says I can still pass it
May 5, 2021, 9:45 AM
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so what is your point? It’s why I still have to wear a mask.
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Gosh - what I heard was that they didn't know if folks could
May 5, 2021, 10:28 AM
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transmit it once vaccinated, so please wear your mask until we have more information...because, you know...it's all NEW.
jesus people if scientists make an absolute statement based on limited data, people don't trust it. but when they are transparent and tell the truth "we don't know yet", people take and it and run with it.
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All-In [44477]
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Tested more thoroughly?
May 5, 2021, 10:46 AM
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What are you going to be using as your gauge here? I mean, FDA or WHO or whoever's approval isn't to be trusted, tell us about your independent research.
Or just YOLO and listen to your Dr who falls I would guess in a category of 5% or less Drs that say it's not needed.
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Dr. of physical education, most likely. Got his PhD through
May 5, 2021, 10:56 AM
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Liberty University Online
HE IS STILL A FU>CKING DOCTOR THOUGH.
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Well, at least we know the China vaccine is
May 5, 2021, 8:41 AM
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crap. Between Chile, Brazil, Paraguay, and now the Sea Shells, yeah, it's crap. China is just now doing human trials on their first mRNA vaccine. Can't believe they haven't stolen that long ago.
But there's evidence in India that the Astra Zeneca vaccine is not (as) effective. They're seeing medical staff getting covid who had the Astra Zeneca vaccine. Many staff in one hospital got sick. The good news though, is they all had mild cases, meaning the vaccine at least helped keep illnesses mild.
At this point it's mRNA or bust basically. But just know all vaccines are not equal.
And then there's the Seychelles. Tiny islands in the Indian Ocean with 100,000 people. Most "vaccinated" country on Earth, to date. They had no mRNA vaccines, but a mix of Astra Zeneca from India (gift) and the Chinese crap (gift). Between those two, well....they now have the worst outbreak on Earth, relatively speaking anyway. It would be equivalent to the US having 3,200,000 people currently sick with covid and another 1,600,000 people daily testing positive. Hopefully the vaccines keep mortality/severity low. The ones they had sure are not stopping the spread. Their hospitals are now full and they're shutting down (again) after several months of welcoming tourists from all over the world. No real choice for them at this point.
https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/world-s-most-vaccinated-nation-reintroduces-curbs-as-cases-surge
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Legend [15264]
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I got vaxed, but supposedly I can still infect people
May 5, 2021, 8:33 AM
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with covid, so I really have no idea why I got vaxed if that is true...other than posting all over social media back in late Dec that I'm so cool because I'm vaxed and you aren't and my life is more valuable than yours.
But, I'm not going to let my kids get vaxed if they start allowing kids under 10. That seems idiotic to me.
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All-In [44355]
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You can still infect people, or Melinda Gates might ask me
May 5, 2021, 8:37 AM
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to marry her now that she's single. But those things are extremely unlikely.
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Legend [15264]
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If true, and I hope it is... Why are we still wearing masks
May 5, 2021, 8:42 AM
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for our 12 step walk from the entrance of the restaurant to our table of 8 when we then remove our masks and converse with one another for an hour?
It doesn't say, face coverings not required for those who have been vaccinated.
Wouldn't that be a nice little "perk"? It's because nobody actually trusts the vaccine.
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All-In [44477]
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Eh, not so much a reflection of vaccine trust as it is
May 5, 2021, 8:46 AM
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a perceived mitigation of liability. Kind of like a slippery when wet sign.
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All-In [44355]
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Sure, some of that stuff is performative nonsense, and you
May 5, 2021, 8:47 AM
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can definitely poke some holes in the logic or application of it.
But overall, the more we can do to slow transmission (vaccines and masks), the less it will transmit, and the less chance it mutates more.
None of the vaccines or mask wearing or distancing are perfect - but they all help and they all add up.
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WHATEVER YOU DUMB SHEEP***
May 5, 2021, 8:50 AM
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Legend [15264]
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Again, I'm totally cool with whatever. I just think
May 5, 2021, 8:53 AM
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the vast majority of our actions are illogical and silly. It undermines the value of the vaccine.
I've got very smart, normal friends who refuse to get the vaccine largely due to the whole charade of how we are handling this virus.
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Oculus Spirit [81986]
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"I've got very smart, normal friends who refuse to get the
May 5, 2021, 9:35 AM
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vaccine largely due to the whole charade of how we are handling this virus."
If that's why they refuse to get the vaccine, they aren't that smart.
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All-TigerNet [11963]
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why were we ever wearing mask in a restaurant
May 5, 2021, 10:16 AM
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if we were going to take it off the minute we sat down?
That rule was dumb 9at least here) because no one was willing to do what it would truly take to make mask wearing worth while - wearing it any time that you weren't actively eating or drinking. But no one really does that because it's annoying, so the mask mandate in restaurants (around here anyway) is pointless. the mandate, not the masks.
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All-In [32085]
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I think it was/is reasonable balance between what is....
May 5, 2021, 10:40 AM
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feasible and odds of transmission.
I get your sentiment.
But, the requirement makes some sense to me. Before you are seated at your table, you could be standing in a crowd waiting for a table or interacting with a lot more people.
Once you're at your table, you should be somewhat separated and dealing with a limited number of people (waitress, etc...). And it's not reasonable to try to enforce wearing a mask between bites or sips. So it's a reasonable balance of the odds and feasibility.
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All-TigerNet [11963]
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The requirement as written made sense. the execution
May 5, 2021, 10:56 AM
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did not. I guess in the many instances that I've picked up food, I've seen packed restaurants with people sitting and talking with no masks. like, they take it off as soon as they sit down and put it on when they passing the hostess stand.
I have said it many times though...I'm not high on hanging in poorly ventilated areas with lots of heavy breathers/loud talkers (restaurants, Orangetheory ). Especially when the cases were high.
And that was a choice I made. Now, I'm a little more at ease after having gotten the vaccine and I actually prefer eating outside, so...it's all good.
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All-In [32085]
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I agree on all points***
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Of course you see very little benefit,
May 5, 2021, 9:11 AM
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because you're looking at benefit solely as a function applicable to yourself. The benefit of you getting vaccinated may actually manifest for somebody else--could be a family member or friend, could be somebody you've never met. You being vaccinated potentially prevents the spread of a virus from you to another person, who could be less fortunate than you and experience things far worse than a 48 hour cold, up to and including death.
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but your attitude is pretty terrible and is one of the main factors contributing to the continued spread of this stupid virus. Yeah, you got vaxxed, but quite literally millions of others with your same attitude are like "nah, I don't need to, I don't really see the benefit to me."
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This is the overall attitude for all Trumpies in regards to
May 5, 2021, 10:25 AM
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basically everything in life.
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All-In [32085]
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yep and it's perhaps one of the biggest failings of the...
May 5, 2021, 11:04 AM
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previous administration.
They could have really tried to unite the country with a sense of purpose and civic duty. Instead, they not only allowed, but actively promoted, the issue such that it became deeply political. As if service, duty, country above self, and sacrifice were somehow instantly a "liberal" idea as it pertains to this single issue.
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Legend [15264]
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Disagree. Getting vaccinated protects yourself, not others.
May 5, 2021, 11:37 AM
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Wearing masks protects others.
We know that being vaccinated protects you from the severe effects of the virus. I still haven't seen anything yet that proves it protects other people.
But the thing is, everyone who is at any risk whatsoever to Covid has either had the vaccine, has the antibodies, has already died, or does not care and is just assuming the risk.
Go ahead and pat yourself on the back, but getting vaccinated is to protect yourself, first and foremost.
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All-In [32085]
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Nope....
May 5, 2021, 11:51 AM
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it's not conclusive yet, but early data is showing vaccine reduced the chance of spread. If you have been infected, the data shows pretty conclusively that the time period in which one could spread is greatly reduced.
AND the more ppl that are vaccinated, the lower the chance of developing variants.
I think it's simply false to say that getting vaccinated doesn't protects others.
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Legend [15264]
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I think it is much more sincere to say that
May 5, 2021, 11:54 AM
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I got vaccinated to protect myself from the severe outcomes of Covid.
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CU Medallion [60535]
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I did it so my wife can’t blame me
May 5, 2021, 11:58 AM
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if the kids have to stay home cause they got COVID. That’s about as simple as it gets. It’s definitely not for anyone else. If you are scared, then get vaccinated. If scared and not wanting to get vaccinated, stay home till the rage is over. If you don’t want to be vaccinated, I don’t really care......see you at the Pub on Friday.
It’s not really all that hard to understand.
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Legend [15264]
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Yup. Just because I chose to get vaxed for whatever reason,
May 5, 2021, 12:09 PM
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I could not in good faith encourage someone else to get an unapproved vaccine. That's a decision that they are gonna need to make for themselves.
I already know of someone who lost a child at 18 weeks and the OBGYN blamed it on the JnJ. Timeline of growth was perfect.
I think that's rare and we also know that getting Covid while pregnant increases chance of preterm labor. So you just have to make the best decision for yourself.
I just hate the constant pushing of something that we know so little about. Especially on little kids with developing immune systems when the risk of Covid issues is basically nothing.
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There is very little benefit keeping your wife happy?
May 5, 2021, 9:23 AM
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Happy wife happy life
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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2nd shot side effects lasted, like 8 hours. I'll take
May 5, 2021, 7:25 AM
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that over 2 weeks of whatever getting the virus has to offer up, including the quarantine and potential of hospitalization.
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CU Medallion [60535]
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I had a bad cold for about 48 hours.
May 5, 2021, 7:32 AM
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If you feel scared and think you might go to hospital if infected, then get vaccinated or stay home.
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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Are your wife or kids particularly at risk at going to the
May 5, 2021, 8:15 AM
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hospital? I think kids are super low risk, and if your wife is healthy, why would you get a 2nd shot?
Why not just let her get it, if she wants it, and not get yours?
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I had zero side effects
May 5, 2021, 7:28 AM
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It felt like someone thumped my arm and was mildly sore that night to sleep on
1/10 on the pain scale
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me too
May 5, 2021, 7:38 AM
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And job #2 gave me a $10 Willie Taco gift card for getting vaccinated (on the clock) so win win.
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Same....this must be the
May 5, 2021, 6:03 PM
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real men portion of this thread....
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Heisman Winner [138319]
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You’ve had worse hangovers
May 5, 2021, 7:40 AM
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Based on what you’ve told us and that provides zero benefits
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Appreciate this
May 5, 2021, 7:50 AM
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heading for 2nd at 8:30 this morn. EXPECT A FULL, DETAILED REPORT OF MY EXPERIENCE!
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lol
May 5, 2021, 8:06 AM
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Really? How bad were your symptoms after 2nd shot...
May 5, 2021, 8:09 AM
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mine felt like I had the flu for one day.
I gotta admit, I have a tough time relating to your position. I'm certainly willing to feel a little crappy for 1 day in order to try to do my part to get the virus under control.
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I don't get it either.***
May 5, 2021, 8:13 AM
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Re: Really? How bad were your symptoms after 2nd shot...
May 5, 2021, 8:23 AM
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It reminded me how long it had been since I had really been sick. I remember getting all kinds of stuff when my son was in daycare. All those kids licking on each other and crawling around in poop was a breeding ground for every known disease to bring home to family.
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All-TigerNet [11686]
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I felt bad for the afternoon after my second shot.
May 5, 2021, 8:18 AM
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Big fookin deal.
From my super scientific internet research those who had the COVIDAIDS previously have way worse reactions to the vaccine than those who never got had it.
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got mine at 10am, completely normal rest of day
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went to baseball game that night, no issues whatsoever. Up until about 1am.
slept OK, but not quite as well as usual. Had some amazing, vivid dreams. Absolutely freaky stuff.
Woke up at 7am, felt like I had been rolled down a hill inside a 55 gallon drum. Ached all over. Took a Tylenol, laid on couch for a couple hours and watched TV, completely immobile. At 10am, realized I felt much, much better. Got up and I was 100% fine, like a snap of the fingers. 24 hours later. Strangest sensation I've had in awhile.
Went to afternoon baseball game, sat in hot sun all day. Just fine.
I'm actually ready to get a third shot , just for the dream clarity affects. I feel slightly addicted now. It must be similar to people who take LSD or smoke pot, the freaky visions, hallucinations and such. I weirdly feel like I want more of it.
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Solution
May 5, 2021, 8:36 AM
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The night I got the second shot, I drank a lot of bourbon. Felt terrible the next day anyway.
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What happened to the guy that was all upset about
May 5, 2021, 9:21 AM
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colleagues in India?
Was that another manac?
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Oculus Spirit [81986]
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different level of neurosis on another day***
May 5, 2021, 10:26 AM
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All-TigerNet [11963]
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you're the only person I know that had the virus
May 5, 2021, 10:10 AM
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and complained about the side effects. so it must be you.
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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I like how I'm some sort of anti science monster for wanting
May 5, 2021, 10:26 AM
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to wait until full FDA approval. Phizer, for example, was subject to the largest health care fraud settlement in history about a decade ago. Perhaps there's been a larger one since. Moderna has never had an FDA approved product in the history of their company. Several countries, including the US and Canada have halted giving out the J&J vaccine over blood clot concerns.
Yet, in spite of all that, people act like you're a lunatic for being hesitant. Covid has become a religion.
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All-TigerNet [12763]
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Re: I like how I'm some sort of anti science monster for wanting
May 5, 2021, 10:32 AM
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I was like you but yesterday morning decided to get the J&J on a whim. I have a lot of flying coming up so maybe that was mindfarking with me, I dunno.
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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I get that, and I may end up having to get it for work
May 5, 2021, 10:38 AM
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eventually. Which is whatever I guess, but the people chomping at the bit for their kids to get it are fuggin nuts IMO.
I've been called a lot worse than selfish, so people can get fukt with that nonsense as far as I'm concerned.
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CU Medallion [60349]
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don't sweat the haters and the self-righteous
May 5, 2021, 10:47 AM
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they have a worse disease than COVID will ever be.
Plus there is no cure, and 0% survival rate, for what they have.
Judgement of others is a big no-no per the Good Book, yet it runs unchecked in today's society. Sad.
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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I suspect some of the visceral reaction some people have
May 5, 2021, 11:01 AM
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towards those who are not rushing out to get it is rooted in doubting whether they themselves did the right thing. You saw the same thing when people started refusing to stay home. That's a deep psychological rabbit hole though.
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All-In [32290]
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unreal***
May 5, 2021, 11:46 AM
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All-TigerNet [11963]
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I think it's reasonable to wait until full approval (which
May 5, 2021, 10:40 AM
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should be soon). I reserve the 'anti science monster' term for those that feel like the government is installing tracking devices
I, for one, feel like I'll be in that boat when making the decision for my kid...Like, it's one thing when I'm making the decision for myself. but it's another for my 6 yo.
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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It's going to be interesting for schools, do they require
May 5, 2021, 10:55 AM
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the vaccine? Could they? I imagine the push back would be huge. Personally, I'll need to see years of long term results in children/teens before I consider it for my son.
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All-In [44477]
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They require other vaccines.
May 5, 2021, 10:56 AM
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Not sure why this one is so controversial.
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Re: They require other vaccines.
May 5, 2021, 10:57 AM
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with "years of long term results in children/teens"
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I mean, has anyone researched those vaccines?
May 5, 2021, 11:02 AM
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When were they first required? How much long term data was in before being required? Did you make your decision to home school or not based on that?
Nope.
But hey, we now live in an internet conspiracy world. Fact of the matter is, people are getting the vaccine but then saying they don't trust it on the internet. Society is ###### up like that.
Look no further than the OP on this.
I would expect Lakebum has is own criteria for his kid and that's cool and all. Just make sure to thoroughly research and apply it to polio, hep A, hep B, MMR, etc. as well.
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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Funny you mention polio, you should check out how the first
May 5, 2021, 11:08 AM
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vaccine for that went. All of those vaccines you mention have been around for decades, I think I'm applying my vaccination standards pretty universally.
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Fair enough, and good example.
May 5, 2021, 11:15 AM
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Tell me then, what metrics will YOU be using when determining if a given vaccine is safe?
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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Full FDA approval and multiple years of other people/peoples
May 5, 2021, 11:22 AM
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children getting it with little to no adverse effects.
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All-In [44477]
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Cool. You seem to feel strongly about this.
May 5, 2021, 11:27 AM
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Strong enough to home school if required by SC and your personal requirements aren't met?
Please sweet lord bless me with reading lakebum home school jounge posts at some point. I BEG YOU.
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Schools don't require the flu vaccine. Covid is less severe
May 5, 2021, 11:44 AM
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than the flu to kids.
Schools will absolutely not require covid vaccine to children in the foreseeable future.
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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As do you. And yes, I might. Granted, my son is still
May 5, 2021, 12:08 PM
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several years off from that so there's still time to meet my personal requirements. Frankly, I tend to think this vaccine isn't the savior that everyone wants it to be, and once that plays out the desire to make it a requirement will fizzle out.
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Once it's FDA approved, they can require it and likely will
May 5, 2021, 10:59 AM
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for the little - unless we've gotten it 'under control' by then. If we get the cases down to small seasonal outbreaks, then i would imagine it's be strongly encouraged, like the flu vaccine it.
trust me. i'm a doctor. heh.
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I don't think that line of thinking is "anti-science"....
May 5, 2021, 10:46 AM
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the full approval will come soon and I can respect that opinion.
I cannot respect the opinion of not getting it because one thinks it's a government ploy or that they "don't believe in covid" (which I've heard a lot of people say and I don't even understand what it means), etc...
For me, I looked at the requirement for emergency/conditional approval and was convinced that was more than sufficient. By the time I had my chance a few weeks ago, the data was overwhelming that the risks were extremely small and much less than many other things I do.
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All-TigerNet [12763]
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I got the J&J shot yesterday.
May 5, 2021, 10:31 AM
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only side affect for me was a killer headache that only lasted a few hours.
Talked to my boss this morning for the first time this week. He got his second shot Monday and thought he was gonna die. lol He's just getting over it.
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All-In [47092]
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1st shot sucked for 2 days. Second shot sucked for 2 days
May 5, 2021, 10:32 AM
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COVID sucked for 2 weeks
Perhaps you're just a b!tch
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All-TigerNet [12763]
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Lol
May 5, 2021, 10:33 AM
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You're an insensitive ####### ain'tcha?
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Was replying to manac. Not you***
May 5, 2021, 10:36 AM
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All-TigerNet [12763]
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I know. Just joshin' main***
May 5, 2021, 10:53 AM
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I've heard the shots are tough for alcoholics
May 5, 2021, 11:14 AM
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t's and p's
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All-In [44477]
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AWWWWW SHEEEYIIIT FBROKECOUCH DONE PUT SOME
May 5, 2021, 11:16 AM
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HOTSAWCE ON THAT ### FLIPOUTCHAIR.GIF
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CU Medallion [60535]
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that’s all you got?
May 5, 2021, 11:35 AM
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I understand that you are struggling with being a beta. Living in in-laws grandmas house has to be tough on the ego. Plus having to lay in ICU for a couple weeks while your wife takes care of kids because of your bad decisions.....that is tough and I see why you are angry.
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Lot o points [182463]
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I get my 2nd a week from tomorrow.
May 5, 2021, 11:40 AM
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I'm doing it because I can't miss work by getting stupid virus, and to protect Bandito.
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110%er [9712]
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For me - the second shot was not NEARLY as bad
May 5, 2021, 6:07 PM
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as having the virus.
1st shot - flu like symptoms for a day 2nd shot - flu like symptoms for a day Actually having COVID - sick as a dog for 2 weeks, with lingering effects for weeks
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Re: Gotta love how the second shot
May 20, 2021, 5:01 PM
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how long were you down?
doctor said took him 2 days to get over the second shot
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