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They're probably at higher risk for all sorts of
Dec 14, 2022, 2:42 PM
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easily prevented misadventures.
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I urge them to supplement their study by looking at the
Dec 14, 2022, 2:49 PM
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effects of Climate Change
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This is a chicken or egg thing IMO
Dec 14, 2022, 4:04 PM
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Most people don't know, but traffic fatalities, per miles driven, have risen significantly since 2020, even with less vehicles on the roads (in 2020), the odds of a fatal accident have been higher, and the trend has continued. Rates were up 7% in 2020, and 10% in 2021.
My THEORY (Obed) is it had to do with depleted cortisol levels, a hallmark of "long covid". Cortisol is often called our "stress hormone". It is also part of our "fight or flight" response to dangers that helps humans respond to danger, like avoiding accidents, among many other things. Now bear with me a second.
If you refuse the vaccine, you're more likely to 1) not wear a mask 2) think covid is BS 3) get infected and recover without the benefit of the vaccine. Ok, fine. Freedom! Whatever. But people with long covid, or lingering symptoms, have 50% less cortisol than normal. You know when you're driving and some idiot pulls out in front of you, and you swerve to avoid them, (we've all had this happen), well, that pounding of your heart, that's caused in part by cortisol telling your body to pump adrenaline. It's not only a natural reaction, it's an evolutionary adaptation honed over thousands of years and is intended to help people avoid death and injury. If millions of people are driving around with 50% reductions in cortisol, there will be more accidents. Accidents of all kinds, not just MVA. And given that vaccines reduce the odds of long covid symptoms, those without the vaccine are more prone to have long covid symptoms. Low cortisol is actually something you don't even notice, but low levels leads to all kinds of riskier behaviors, and a lack of avoiding accidents of all kinds.
But that's just a theory.
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increase of text messaging, web surfing, and calling
Dec 14, 2022, 4:06 PM
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on the phone
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Quite the opposite, actually.
Dec 15, 2022, 10:25 AM
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People engage in riskier behavior with lower cortisol levels. More bar fights, drunk driving, knocked up women, all kinds of awesome stuff. Car wrecks too.
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Re: This is a chicken or egg thing IMO
Dec 20, 2022, 7:14 PM
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Very interesting.
My blood cortisol levels are down slightly, but more so than just an anomaly, since getting my 2nd Moderna COVID vax back in April 2021.
I’ve never had COVID; wear the mask when anticipating being in a crowded environment, take extra vitamins D, C, and zinc.
Shortly after taking 2nd COVID vax I started having seizures. Was not allowed to legally drive for 6 months.
Of course, the vax believers … those same people who followed the CDC’s original narrative that the vax would prevent catching COVID, spreading COVID, or suffering side effects from COVID vax … all said that I could not prove that the vax caused the problem. Of course, they are right … proof cannot be ascertained of the cause of my condition.
Back to those who still advocate the vax …
Those same people, who also parroted the CDC’s narrative that natural immunity was a myth, are silent about their gullibility now that the vax has been proven to be ineffective as far as preventing onset of COVID, preventing those who had been vaxed from spreading COVID, or from catching COVID from those who took the vax and got sick anyways.
The pro-vax narrative has now deteriorated to the ‘you won’t get as sick if you take the vax versus those who had not taken the vax.’
Fool me once, shame on you. Shame me twice, shame on me.
Human psychology does not allow those who had been profoundly wrong to admit to others that they had been wrong.
But the now widespread silence from most previous vax proponents speaks to the fact that there are 3nough attentive Americans who have now considered the risks from the vax as not being worth the meager benefits.
Fewer Americans are willing to keep on shaming themselves.
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Because the credibility of experts and academia isn't
Dec 14, 2022, 5:26 PM
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low enough already.
What a load.
They're trolling you boys.
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Re: People who skipped their COVID vax are at higher risk of traffic accidents
Dec 15, 2022, 6:15 AM
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The article says the findings are significant enough that doctors should counsel patients on traffic safety and insurance companies should base premiums on vaccination status. If that’s not a load of horse manure I don’t know what is. This reads more like a Babylon Bee article.
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Re: People who skipped their COVID vax are at higher risk of traffic accidents
Dec 15, 2022, 7:59 AM
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The article says the findings are significant enough that doctors should counsel patients on traffic safety and insurance companies should base premiums on vaccination status. If that’s not a load of horse manure I don’t know what is. This reads more like a Babylon Bee article.
(As an aside, far earlier than this, studies showed a likelihood of increased side effects from concussions in COVID sufferers. I get that it is easier for dopes to not want to look into WHY there seems to be a correlation between SEEMINGLY unrelated things, this is serious stuff. We are at the tip of the long COVID iceberg.)
But to address your comment, if your health insurance company thinks that they are going to spend more money on the unvaccinated, it is perfectly sensible and reasonable for them to shift more of the cost to them be raising their rates. In the same way that they raise rates for smokers, because they are more expensive.
(Funny-not-ha-ha that I came to this board, after commenting about health insurance elsewhere, on the way to bump my own COVID thread, because... UGH!)
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Re: People who skipped their COVID vax are at higher risk of traffic accidents
Dec 15, 2022, 8:30 AM
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They were implying that auto insurance should be higher for the unvaccinated. That’s laughable. Sorry but it just is. I’m unvaccinated and so is my entire family. We had Covid exactly 2 years ago. We seem to be doing just fine and none of us have had a second infection in spite of taking zero precautions. But I promise to do like the article said and try not to bump my head. Lol.
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Re: People who skipped their COVID vax are at higher risk of traffic accidents
Dec 20, 2022, 11:03 PM
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Ignored in this insurance / in-vaxxed discussion is the elevated risk for those who got the vax (and did not get COVID) vs. those who did not get the vax (and did not get COVID).
That both the medical authorities (inexcusable) and the general public (predictably) ignore the above is just one more example of why Americans continue to be snookered by specious pro-vax narratives.
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Re: People who skipped their COVID vax are at higher risk of traffic accidents
Dec 21, 2022, 11:18 AM
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Yeah I’m thinking driving down the road and throwing a big fat clot blocking a coronary artery after getting the vaccine just might be a traffic risk.
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Re: People who skipped their COVID vax are at higher risk of traffic accidents
Dec 15, 2022, 8:21 AM
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Speaks for itself
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Re: People who skipped their COVID vax are at higher risk of traffic accidents
Dec 20, 2022, 5:33 PM
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Yep they say we are traffic risks. Good grief these morons.
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