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Orange Blooded [3195]
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Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 12:09 PM
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I see the same folks defending our disaster of a president. And for some odd reason talking about Trump? Thankfully Clemson football is nigh upon us.
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Orange Blooded [4023]
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 12:54 PM
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You should stay away longer cause DADDY continues to get embarrassed, and that's not good for the MUST PROTECT DADDY crowd on here.
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 1:04 PM
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What kind of pond scum are you?
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 1:07 PM
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I'm a normal dude who has taken on DADDY's exact persona (the one you applauded him for) and I'm pimp slapping MAGA with it. Just look at how triggered you are. You don't like it, do you?
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 2:33 PM
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That's what pimp slapping looks like? Wow. Embarrassing.
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Orange Blooded [4023]
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 2:43 PM
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You can always tell when the response in nothing but ad hominem, just like Raven's response above. 0 substance. Why is it you guys hold me to a higher standard that the 45th POTUS?
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 10:55 PM
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You can always tell when the response in nothing but ad hominem, just like Raven's response above. 0 substance. Why is it you guys hold me to a higher standard that the 45th POTUS?
Because he isn’t president anymore but yet you still speak of him like he’s lying beside you in the bed or something?
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 8:41 PM
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"I'm a normal dude..."
Ha! Thanks for the laugh, Bermie bro! You're about as normal as lactating males. And your repeated use of the term 'daddy' in all caps... projecting some fetish, are you? Seems more than plausible at this point.
*Cue lame GIF*
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 10:54 PM
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I'm a normal dude who has taken on DADDY's exact persona (the one you applauded him for) and I'm pimp slapping MAGA with it. Just look at how triggered you are. You don't like it, do you?
I'm a normal dude who has taken on DADDY's exact persona (the one you applauded him for) and I'm pimp slapping MAGA with it. Just look at how triggered you are. You don't like it, do you?
Nothing is normal about eat, sleep and breath Donald Trump! I’ve never seen a person that is so hung on one individual! It’s really unnatural and unhealthy to exhaust this much energy over 1 Person. You do know that all of it is time that you will not get back right?
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Orange Blooded [2616]
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Aug 1, 2022, 7:49 AM
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Have you read Miura’s posts before? It goes both ways. That cat is obsessed. He eats, sleeps, breathes and snores sleepy Joe. You can feel his anger and anxiety in every post. It’s sad really.
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Aug 1, 2022, 11:15 AM
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Thnx for the props. You misinformed libs need constant reminders of your F Up from 2020. Look where we are now. Trump, on the other hand, brought record prosperity to America in spite of a 24/7 trashing by unhinged, vulgar, hateful dem fascists for four years. He was the reset that America needed.
He did more for America (esp. for minorities) than Odumbo and Brandon combined!!
FJB
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Aug 1, 2022, 9:46 PM
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You’re welcome for the props. I’m sure you’re in bed already dreaming of sleepy Joe and all the rants you can post on here tomorrow. Btw, you don’t have to be a liberal or even a democrat to dislike Trump AND Biden. I don’t like Trump because he’s a lousy human. I don’t like Biden because he’s doing a lousy job.
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Jul 31, 2022, 12:55 PM
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Trump was a disaster. Youre delusional.
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Re: Sadly after staying away after months
Aug 1, 2022, 11:18 AM
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As usual, you're hugely wrong! Too much MSM BS. How's your denial??? LOL Try this:
In 2019, the NY Times reported that the US median income, adjusted for inflation, was $69,000. The highest ever recorded since records began being kept in 1967. The groups that benefited the most: Blacks and Hispanics.
The US poverty level before the Pandemic was 10.5%, the lowest in American history. Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
Trump installed three Supreme Court justices and 226 judges overall to the federal bench all for lifetime appointments.
Trump appointed 54 judges on the 13 US circuit courts. To put this in perspective, former President Barack Obama appointed 55 circuit judges in his two terms in the White House.
Trump signed the First Step Act into law in December 2018, marking the first legislative victory in years for advocates seeking to reform the criminal justice system, especially benefiting blacks and minorities.
After a five-year effort led by the US, ISIS's caliphate was finally defeated in March 2019. In late October, a US raid led to the death of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
Operation Warp-Speed brought vaccines to America in record time, much to the dismay of the left.
Most regulations ever cut in his first two years, bringing hundreds of American companies and JOBS back to America.
Significantly lowered unemployment after being elected, AFTER Obama said it couldn't possibly go any lower under Trump.
Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
Got America out of a futile, economy-destroying Paris climate accord.
Brought more women into his administration than any other president in history.
Moved the Israeli capital to Jerusalem.
Major, major positive accomplishments in Israel, Saudi Arabia and Morocco. Wonderful work by Jared Kushner..
Rebuilt our military.
Brought accountability to NATO (dues by delinquents)!
Interacted positively and made progress with China and NK
Secured our southern border (until Biden screwed it up!)
Importantly, he exposed the dishonesty, vulgarity and violence of the Democrat party.
Called out democrat run cities and states and forced them to be accountable.
Brought more monies and support to HBCUs than any president in history.
Exposed Chinese corruption and land-grabbing.
Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration.
The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century
Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million
Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record.
Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades.
Never took a pay check in four years.....donated every check to charities.
Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
U Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade.
The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth.
Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase.
Small business optimism broke a 35-year old record in 2018.
Hit record stock market numbers and record 401ks.
The DOW closed above 20,000 for the first time in 2017 and topped 30,000 in 2020.
During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1 percent – the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
Under the previous administration, it took 49 months for the unemployment rate to fall from 10 percent to under 7 percent compared to just 3 months for the Trump Administration.
Created Opportunity Zones that have increased property values within them by 1.1 percent, creating an estimated $11 billion in wealth for the nearly half of Opportunity Zone residents who own their own home
Opportunity Zones have attracted $75 billion in funds and driven $52 billion of new investment in economically distressed communities, creating at least 500,000 new jobs.
Approximately 1 million Americans will be lifted from poverty as a result of these new investments.
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Heisman Winner [119829]
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These sad individuals think we want Trump back….
Jul 31, 2022, 12:58 PM
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No, but we do want many of his policies, with a different leader!
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Re: These sad individuals think we want Trump back….
Jul 31, 2022, 1:11 PM
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If that were the case, you would be on the side of LCheney, but you're not. Total BS.
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CU Medallion [58503]
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She has a deep, very personal hatred for Trump.
Jul 31, 2022, 3:33 PM
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That's her side, and that's what drives her (and many others). I do not have a deep, personal fear of or hatred of Trump, so that does not drive me.
My side is that Trump did a lot of good as president, but his loudmouthed egomania that would not allow him to accept the reality of defeat and failure ruined any chance he had going forward. That's what drives me and many others like me.
I do not support LC and her efforts, nor do I support Trump going forward. Dullards like you don't know the difference.
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Re: She has a deep, very personal hatred for Trump.
Jul 31, 2022, 3:48 PM
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Can you expound on when she developed this "deep, very personal hatred for Trump"? Was it when she was voting for/with him 93% of the time or was it when it was obvious to most that he had violated his oath of office and become a traitor to the US constitution? For me personally, I hate ####### traitors also and would do anything in my power to defeat them!
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Re: She has a deep, very personal hatred for Trump.
Jul 31, 2022, 4:11 PM
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When she decided that she wanted to be president, and knowing that she can’t beat trump in a primary; she joined the idiot band of democrats in an effort to keep him from running again.
The morons on this board that think “she’s fighting for democracy“ are idiots.
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Re: She has a deep, very personal hatred for Trump.
Jul 31, 2022, 4:20 PM
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So, I'll take that answer as an AFTER "he had violated his oath of office and become a traitor to the US constitution"
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CU Medallion [58503]
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Sounds like a slam dunk, easy to prove and convict.
Jul 31, 2022, 5:21 PM
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What's the hold up? Don't get me wrong, if that's the case, then by all means lock him up. But if you already know that he's guilty, and it's so obvious, why is it so hard to prove? Why a theatrical prime time production? Why not just haul him into court, present the proof (Lunge P&R syle), and march him straight to jail? If it's a slam dunk like you think, it wouldn't have taken a month.
Again, I could not care less what happens to Trump; I moved on long ago. I still think the process matters, however, and getting a bad guy does not justify abuse of power for personal and political purposes, which is undeniably a huge part of this.
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All-In [40950]
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they have him on film saying
Jul 31, 2022, 6:10 PM
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something to the effect of fight like hell
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Re: Sounds like a slam dunk, easy to prove and convict.
Jul 31, 2022, 8:20 PM
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How can you determine guilt without an investigation, something you don't want to see. I understand how painful it is for you to see so many people from his own administration get up there and testify.
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Re: Sounds like a slam dunk, easy to prove and convict.
Jul 31, 2022, 8:43 PM
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That's a great question, DULLARD: "How can you determine guilt without an investigation?".
You and Alum85 need to answer that question, not me, because y'all are the one's who've already made the determination, prior to the investigation:
"after it was obvious to most that he had violated his oath of office and become a traitor to the US constitution?" ... Alum85
"draft dodging traitor" ... Dullardham Tiger
I, on the other hand, have an open mind, and welcome a fair, legitimate conviction.
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Re: Sounds like a slam dunk, easy to prove and convict.
Aug 1, 2022, 12:53 AM
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You didn't answer the question. Why do you not want the investigation to play out so you can see the facts for yourself? Asking for someone who believes in "law and order".
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As I've said repeatedly, I welcome a real, unbiased, fair
Aug 1, 2022, 9:56 AM
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investigation into the facts, with the goal of finding prosecutable evidence that can lead to criminal conviction. Bring it on. If Trump is found guilty of committing any crimes, march him straight to jail and lock him up. This ain't it, and ain't even close.
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Re: Sounds like a slam dunk, easy to prove and convict.
Aug 1, 2022, 7:37 AM
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Yep, it's obvious that you have an open mind when it comes to Trump, but NOT when it comes to Liz and THIS is the only reason I bothered to respond to your post because I've read your numerous posts regarding Trump and the committee. You state "She has a deep, very personal hatred for Trump. That's her side, and that's what drives her." How do you know that is what drives her? What investigation are you basing this opinion on?? Or is it your evaluation of her own words(like in the article you posted) and her actions?
Well, who is to say I didn't have an open mind until I heard Trump's own words coming from his own mouth to the SOS of Georgia "All I want to do is this: I just want to FIND 11,780 votes ... So what are we going to do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break". To me, even at the time which was before 1/6, this is a CLEAR violation of state and federal election laws. Then I watched all of his 1+ hour speech live on 1/6 and we have more of his words. The people that state "he said peacefully" are delusional IMHO when you take ALL of the contents of that speech in context. It was CLEAR incitement as evidenced by the people in the crowd on their own video's screaming "storm the capital".
So there are his own words, now let's evaluate his actions and his inaction. I've now watched ALL 20+ hours of the hearings, I'm quite sure that you have not. Most of y'all, like T3, refuse to ... especially "with an open mind". The EVIDENCE presented, and yes eyewitness testimony is evidence, is CLEAR. I won't bother to rehash it all other than to say ... if what happened is not what was intended by Trump, then why wasn't anything done in the 187 minutes to stop it, even when there were numerous people BEGGING him to?? And again, nearly ALL of that evidence was provided by his own people, not by the "radical left". Do you think that having Gym Jordon on the committee would change any of the testimony presented? I don't.
So, that is what I base my current conclusions relating to his "guilt". To answer your above question regarding "What's the hold up?". Well, I would expect you to know that many have refused to cooperate and that DOJ investigating a previous POTUS is a HUGE and complicated issue and should be expected to be done slowly and very carefully, if at all. Do the benefits outweigh the costs to the country? Would you believe the results of a DOJ investigation or would you just blow it off like most of the Trumper's on here as political retribution?
As an aside, I personally don't believe that he will ever even be charged, much less convicted. This country has a looooong history of the rich and powerful folks like Trump escaping any real justice. But, you know this also which is why I suspect you frame this the way you do. I do expect that many of the minions will be tried and convicted and this will provide some deterrent to folks in the future from cooperating with an out of control POTUS.
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Orange Blooded [4023]
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Re: She has a deep, very personal hatred for Trump.
Jul 31, 2022, 4:28 PM
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You don't support LCheney's efforts to prevent a draft dodging traitor from ever holding office again. The dude literally tried to overturn a democratic election. Sad
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Re: She has a deep, very personal hatred for Trump.
Jul 31, 2022, 5:00 PM
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Is that why he got the firing squad?
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CU Medallion [58503]
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I support any legitimate investigation into illegal
Jul 31, 2022, 5:03 PM
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activity for the purpose of bringing about criminal prosecution. I don't support using government power and assets to publicly villify political figures or to convince the public that a particular figure or potential candidate may be unworthy (essentially campaign against), which is the main purpose of this committee.
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Orange Blooded [4023]
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Re: I support any legitimate investigation into illegal
Jul 31, 2022, 5:08 PM
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Sure Jan. I'm sure you'll tell us next that you believe in protecting the Constitution and preserving democracy just like the rest of MAGA on here.
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CU Medallion [58503]
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Re: I support any legitimate investigation into illegal
Jul 31, 2022, 5:23 PM
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Simple minded dullard.
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Orange Blooded [4023]
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Re: I support any legitimate investigation into illegal
Jul 31, 2022, 5:28 PM
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If "dullard" is the opposite of MUST PROTECT DADDY, then that's me. Who would have thought that wanting to protect democracy and the Constitution is "simple minded". LOL.
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BirminghamDullard it is!
Jul 31, 2022, 6:00 PM
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You said it yourself and I concur along with many others I'm sure.
From this day forth shall you ever be the dullard of the tnets.
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Re: I support any legitimate investigation into illegal
Jul 31, 2022, 5:30 PM
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Well, I agree with that in principal. So, if most of the people testifying were Dems hammering on Trump I would agree. However, what we have is Pub members of Trump's own team(campaign staff, WH staff & cabinet members), some of which would rather be anywhere else, telling us exactly what was happening behind the scenes. So, I don't agree with what you said is the main purpose of this committee. Back in the day(i.e Nixon etc.), a person's own party were the ones that drew a line in the sand and said no more of this crazy crap, which is EXACTLY what should have happened here. We would be in a lot better position as a country if they(pub leadership) had stood their ground like they started to within a week of 1/6.
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Re: I support any legitimate investigation into illegal
Jul 31, 2022, 10:34 PM
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Yep they are a bunch of butt kissing pansies. Cheney could have gone along with that clown like the other Republican wimps in Congress but she didn’t. Do you really think her standing up to Trump is going to help her win primaries in the future? I don’t. I think it hurts her more than helps her. She won’t get the Republican nomination now or ever as long as the butt kissers have power and say so. They are all against her now.
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All-In [31938]
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Prior to Trump's post election actions...
Aug 1, 2022, 7:54 AM
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What evidence is there that Cheney hated Trump.
I'll save you time...she didn't.
She is putting country above party and playing it off as simple hatred of Trump is unfounded and ignorant of the facts.
She hated what Trump did and said after the election...as we all should.
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CU Medallion [58503]
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Uhhhhh ... no.
Aug 1, 2022, 9:47 AM
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Prior to being selected for the committee, Trump very publicly, very personally insulted her, calling her a "bitter, horrible human being", with "no personality". So she had PLENTY of reason to have a very personal hatred for Trump, and in fact, it would be strange if she did not, PRIOR TO BEING SELECTED TO INVESITIGATE HIM. Every single member of the committee is either a personal or political enemy of Trump. No matter how badly you hate Trump's guts, or how many pubs or former Trump underlings they get to testify, you can't get around that FACT. The entire committee, therefore the entire investigation, is totally biased and one-sided. It's inarguable. Thank God the American people see it for what it is.
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Re: Uhhhhh ... no.
Aug 1, 2022, 10:00 AM
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How about Thank God only the Trumpista's refuse to see the truth for what it is. Btw, please respond to my long post above. TIA!
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Re: Uhhhhh ... no.
Aug 1, 2022, 10:05 AM
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What exactly is the question?
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Re: Uhhhhh ... OK
Aug 1, 2022, 12:24 PM
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I guess I'll take that as contrition on my point that you don't have an open mind when it comes to Liz and that you would just blow off a DOJ investigation/conviction as political retribution?
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That is slap #### crazy logic right there....
Aug 1, 2022, 3:11 PM
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Cheney was in House leadership and supported Trump's agenda in the HOR 100%.
Trump loses the election and lies about it being stolen, Jan 6 happens, etc...
Cheney votes for impeachment and Trump, as usual, calls her names.
Now, because Trump called Cheney names...the hearing is invalid? That is exactly what you're saying.
Trump called Cheney names because she stood up for her country over her party...not the other way around.
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Re: That is slap #### crazy logic right there....
Aug 1, 2022, 3:21 PM
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Spot on.
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Re: Are you suggesting that LC is not heavily biased, or that
Aug 1, 2022, 4:41 PM
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If you allow only people who are "unbiased against Donald Trump" to prosecute or investigate Donald Trump, there would be no one left.
To know anything at all about Donald Trump is to fervently dislike Donald Trump. He just has that effect of wanting the vast majority of decent folks who encounter him wanting to hit him in the face, hopefully with something heavy.
The guy just has that effect. I don't know many folks that don't have some kind of strong opinion about Donald and most of those opinions are rather...bad.
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Re: Are you suggesting that LC is not heavily biased, or that
Aug 1, 2022, 5:18 PM
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"To know anything at all about Donald Trump is to fervently dislike Donald Trump."
Objectively, demonstrably false. Personally, I don't like Trump either, so I get where you're coming from. But, unlike LC, I'm not a political foe (she voted to impeach), nor has he very publicly and harshly insulted me or my family, so as far as I'm concerned, if he's fairly convicted of something, I'm happy with that. If not, I'm already moving on. It's reasonable to see and assume that it's very different for LC, and expect that she would have a very strong ant-Trump bias. Whether or not that bias is justified is irrelevant.
There are still many, many people who support Trump, some of whom would have been qualified and willing to participate in the investigation. Regardless of the reasons (AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF THE REASONS), none of them are not there. Only people who openly oppose Trump, and have either a political or personal bias are included. That's my point.
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Your point is based on the false belief that...
Aug 1, 2022, 5:42 PM
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A Congressional hearing is eve to be "unbiased". Everything Congress does is, by its very nature, political and biased. That doesn't render any finding as untruthful though.
This issue should have been handled by an independent commission, but that was shot down by Trump -controlled republicans in the Senate. So here we are.
Also, LC is not and was not a political foe of Trump. There is little light between them in terms of political positions. She voted her conscience in the impeachment and she is calling it like she sees it in the hearing.
To any reasonable person, that gives the hearing MORE credibility, not less.
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When she voted to impeach, she became a political enemy.
Aug 1, 2022, 8:14 PM
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To say otherwise is nonsensical and naive. It doesn't matter if she is or was politically aligned with Trump; she voted to have him impeached, to have him removed. That ended all political support of the man, and the politician.
enemy ĕn′ə-mē noun One who feels hatred toward, intends injury to, or opposes another; a foe. One who opposes or is hostile to an idea or cause. Something destructive or injurious in its effects. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
She is certainly a political foe (she voted to impeach). While she may agree with much of his politics, she opposes him personally as a politician - she does not want him to succeed as a politician. She is hostile to the idea of Trump as a politician. She is therefore the very definition of a political enemy.
Of course we are all biased, and any congressional hearing will reflect and be affected by the biases of the committee. The problem is, this committee is totally, 100% biased in one direction. The reason for that being the case does not change that fact - the entire committee consists of political or personal foes of Trump. I don't doubt that LC is calling it like she sees it; we know how she and all the rest see it before it starts; they are politicians whose thoughts, opinions, and positions regarding Trump and Jan 6 are well known.
The committee had determined Trumps guilt from the start. The point of the investigation was not only to gather evidence to aid in a criminal prosecution with that predetermination in mind, but perhaps even more importantly, to try to show voters how rotten and dangerous Trump is, so that he cannot be freely elected again even if enough evidence can't be produced for a criminal conviction. That's is why it's being shown in prime time, and carried by all of the networks. It's more than an investigation - it's a political campaign against Trump, and that's wrong. Trump was wrong for refusing to accept the outcome of the election and subsequently trying to have it overturned, and this one-sided committee is wrong for using their power to carry out a political campaign in this manner.
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A long post with no progress in making a real point....
Aug 1, 2022, 9:19 PM
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The committee making its case is not "wrong"...the purpose of the committee is to expose what happened to educate the public and to inform future legislative decisions. That is the purpose of just about any congressional hearing.
There MIGHT be a point of the committee was putting up false information. But no one is really making a case that the info is false. The best complaint that has been mustered is that too much hearsay was introduced. I haven't seen reports of any witnesses complaining that their testimony is being distorted.
It's powerful hearing the testimony of loyal Trump admin officials. It can't be dismissed just because McCarthy refused to participate.
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Re: When she voted to impeach, she became a political enemy.
Aug 1, 2022, 9:29 PM
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You do realize that most of the testimony is from Trumps own staff and family? If the point was to embarrass DADDY, then why would they get people from within to testify? I'll wait.
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Re: Are you suggesting that LC is not heavily biased, or that
Aug 1, 2022, 8:01 PM
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They excluded THEMSELVES.
Again, if you walk off the battlefield, it's kind of annoying to watch people complain that their opponent now controls it.
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Re: Are you suggesting that LC is not heavily biased, or that
Aug 1, 2022, 11:00 PM
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At least you are finally admitting it's totally biased in one direction and one sided. Like I said, the reason it wound up that way is irrelevant to the fact that it is that way. Until now you have ignored that fact, which has been my whole point. If you don't think that that bias dictates the whole direction of the investigation, including what facts are included, what facts are omitted, and which facts are never pursued, all resulting in a purposefully crafted narrative that is heavily influenced by personal and political motivations, then you are either being dishonest or naive. The idea that this is just a bunch of good-hearted patriots out to save our country is psychedelic comedy.
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Everyone gets your point, it's just not really applicable..
Aug 2, 2022, 8:07 AM
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You're approaching this like it's a court hearing where there is supposed to be an impartial hearing of the facts and that the defendant (Trump) only has a voice to the jury (voters) through the trial. That is not what this is.
Trump can say whatever he wants whenever he wants and it will be covered ad nauseam. He could appear before the committee and give a statement however he would like to...but he claims privilege. He and everyone that has testified can correct how the committee is presenting the facts if they think their statements are being misconstrued. Have any of the witnesses publicly raised issues with the presentation? Maybe someone has, but I haven't seen it. Doesn't that tell you something?
Dismissing what is being presented by this committee because of the makeup of the committee is just...lazy.
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How is the truth lazy or not applicable? It's important.
Aug 2, 2022, 10:36 AM
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The committee is a totally partisan body, with an open, unapologetic anti-Trump bias. How is that not significant? I will not dismiss any relevant facts they may uncover or present. However, it's childish to suggest that the bias inherent in this investigative committee will not present facts that paint an incomplete picture, and create an overall narrative that reflects their strong biases. I think that's wrong. I think it's lazy to just accept what's being presented without acknowledging that.
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So no examples of those that have testified..
Aug 2, 2022, 11:48 AM
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Claiming their remarks were twisted or taken out of context?
I'm saying it's lazy to dismiss the committee's work because the goo leadership chose not to participate. Not having some fool that actually thinks the election was stolen doesn't make the findings any less valid.
There are infinite forums for ppl that see it differently to point out things they disagree with. The lack of push back on the facts being presented is deafening.
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You are happy with a totally biased, partisan
Aug 2, 2022, 2:13 PM
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"investigation", because it gives the result you want and in your mind you have justified the reason that it is totally partisan. I'm not good with that. I'm not pushing back on any testimony being presented because as you can't seem to understand, I'm not defending Trump. The fact that they may present some seemingly incriminating facts (I'm not suggesting here that they are not) does not invalidate my point in the least. It's totally irrelevant to my point. A totally biased, crooked, corrupt investigation can still uncover facts and produce solid testiomony. That doesn't make it right; that doesn't justify it.
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Look up...that's my point flying over***
Aug 2, 2022, 2:39 PM
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Re: Prior to Trump's post election actions...
Aug 1, 2022, 11:24 AM
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Always been my take. I do think there's an aspect of royalty pride there as well. If Mitch McConnell is Tywin Lannister, she's basically Cersei. She is not going to bow and scrape and bend the knee to an uncouth new-money populist rabble-rousing ape like Donald.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab6GyR_5N6c
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Yet, 95% of the posts below are slamming Biden.
Aug 1, 2022, 11:01 AM
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Are you looking for 100%?
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I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone defend him.***
Aug 1, 2022, 5:24 PM
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