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Oculus Spirit [91096]
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Guys..none of us would want Trump or Biden to be our Daddies
Mar 4, 2024, 2:51 PM
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so why do we fight & fuss, spend time & $, vote and put up with either one of them since both are terrible role models and certainly not Clemson Tiger material.
Why, b/c the two major political parties (that’s right, PARTIES as in money-making and candidate-choosing machines that purposefully get us up riled up with THEIR candidates they’ve chosen earlier behind closed doors)..
and we think our voting over a few days time after unloading our wallets by giving to campaigns has gotten us a leader who is gonna solve our and our country’s problems.
WRONG!! The winning party goes straight to the $ vault aka printing press, then gives out money to their favorites thru well-named appropriation & spending bills and does what they please for 4 long years until the courts spank them.
Take the Bidens: “They” ran him as a moderate but that was a lie after the win, and the “They” turned out to be the extreme lefties who pushed a demented ole man into implementing every dream wish they ever harbored.
So, here we are again..Biden vs Trump..unless the DNC switches up at their convention, retires Biden and chooses Michelle Obama to run, which will only bring more havoc to our Nation.
Saying, it’s time WE THE PEOPLE wake up and demand better candidates.
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All-In [42344]
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I mean, Bill, I agree with you
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Mar 4, 2024, 3:21 PM
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So why have you been pining for Trump so badly up until now?
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Orange Blooded [2118]
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I agree about not wanting another father figure....
Mar 4, 2024, 4:05 PM
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My vote is in favor of the guy who accepts election outcomes without trying to overturn them, i.e., the guy who is OK with Democracy.
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All-TigerNet [11207]
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All-TigerNet [12631]
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Its gonna be ok
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Mar 4, 2024, 4:53 PM
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3rd Party for me all the way.
Henry Clay had the vapors that Andrew Jackson was going to become a dictator. Jackson didn’t.
Old Hickory probably stood a far better chance than Trump of having the military back him in becoming a dictator. Jackson left of his own accord.
Lincoln and FDR both took a respite from the Constitution.
Trump if elected will be unpredictable but will leave in 4 years. I fear Trump destroying democracy as little as I fear Dabo joining ISIS.
Now if Biden is elected, retains the Senate and retakes the House, perhaps we’ll “enjoy” the benefits of a stacked SCOTUS and 2 new states to advance and save democracy.
We’ve gotten through these two already. We’ll probably survive either of them the next 4 years, even if that wordsmith, Kamala should become President.
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Lot o points [156133]
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Thank you. Its what Ive been saying.
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Mar 4, 2024, 5:22 PM
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People who think the likes of Trump could end our system of govt as we know it, don’t appreciate or trust our system of government nearly enough.
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Juvenile scare tactics... The proverbial 'boogeyman' for juvenile minds.***
Mar 4, 2024, 5:49 PM
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Orange Blooded [2118]
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I hope it's going to be OK....
Mar 4, 2024, 6:16 PM
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TRump already tried to end our Democracy once. So, IMO, he shouldn't be our POTUS again for that reason by itself, on top of many other reasons (policy differences, his con-artistry, etc).
Now, it's possible that the system can hold up, like it did after the 2020 election. It's a possibility. But I see no reason to take that chance.
So, if Trump is re-elected, I hope you're right and that this is all a bunch of hooey about nothing. But I fear you're horribly wrong. I remember reading some things prior to the 2020 election, and telling people around me back then that Trump would not accept the election and honor the peaceful transfer of power that is crucial to our government. I was told that I was worried about nothing, and that Trump would quietly step aside. The people that told me that were wrong, and I was right.
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Lot o points [156133]
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so Biden wasn't inaugurated and in the White House on Jan 20?
Mar 4, 2024, 6:44 PM
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How were you "right"?
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Orange Blooded [2118]
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Re: so Biden wasn't inaugurated and in the White House on Jan 20?
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Mar 4, 2024, 7:29 PM
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He was inaugurated because Trump's efforts weren't successful. That doesn't mean Trump didn't try and end democracy by otherthrowing an election.
https://apnews.com/trump-election-2020-indictment
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Oculus Spirit [97882]
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Woah, you seem suddenly reasonable and enlightened? I actually
Mar 4, 2024, 5:19 PM
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agree with you on this. Never knew you felt this way.
And yes, the biggest problem isn't Biden or Trump, the biggest problem is WHY ARE THEY OUR ONLY CHOICES?
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Re: Guys..none of us would want Trump or Biden to be our Daddies
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Mar 4, 2024, 5:42 PM
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There is one glaring defect in your overall excellent ‘big picture’ assessment of the current political situation.
Trump is the farthest thing from being the ‘chose candidate’ of the Republican power brokers. Quite the contrary.
Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson were choices A1 and A2.
Nikki was too much of a long shot at the beginning of the Republican race to have been designated as a top choice, despite her politics aligning perfectly with that of the Republican Party ‘kingmakers.’
Chris Christie’s values (I.e., no values) and policy preferences (perfectly aligned with the ‘bosses’ since Christie is a known-as-obedient puppet) had the ideal characteristics, but his publicly dirty history (most notably, ‘Bridge Gate’) made his electability an impossibility.
DeSantis had the superficial credentials as an obedient servant to the Republican establishment, having served in both the House of Representatives -&- FL governor. However, DeSantis is a bit too independent, especially on social issues … which impair his ability to raise money … for DeSantis to be anything other than an ‘Option 3’ type of candidate.
Ramaswamy was never a candidate of consideration for the Republican kingmakers. Ramaswamy, being both perceptive and clever, pivoted his presidential campaign as one obviously designed with the target objective of Trump’s VP or a cabinet official for Trump. BTW, the Republican kingmakers would hate Ramaswamy as much as Trump, except for the fact that Ramaswamy had zero shot at getting the nomination.
(*). It is only through gritted teeth that the Republican kingmakers have started to publicly endorse Trump. Privately, they still seethe at the disruption that a Trump second term would do to their crony capitalist schemes. Even from the aspect of public messaging, the Republican kingmakers have shown by their actions that ‘anybody but Trump’ is their target. Look at how much money Nikki has raised from Big Money Republicans. Koch Industries had only given up on Nikki after she got crushed in the SC primary. Despite Nikki’s ongoing lack of success in the primaries & caucuses since SC (with the tiny ‘deep red’ Washington, D.C. primary being her only win), the big money donors are still clinging to a fantasy that Nikki will emerge or that some medical matter (including but not limited to death) might ‘save’ them from Trump. Prediction: Trump campaign will raise far less money than that of the OBiden Handlers Admin campaign. Many of the otherwise historical big donors to the campaigns of establishment Republicans simply won’t write checks to Trump’s campaign.
(*). Biden, in contrast to Trump, is THE MAN as far as the perfect puppet to the Democrat party kingmakers. Guess who would have been Public Enemy #1 candidate for the big money Democrats? RFK, Jr. Had the Democrat party, with their comprehensive mass media propaganda network, decided to support RFK, Jr, then RFK, Jr would have easily won the upcoming election. Bear in mind, again, that winnability was never the sole objective of the Democrat party. Winning only matters if if if they can control the eventual Democrat president. RFK, Jr, at least judging from his stated policy preferences as of early March, is simply their enemy.
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"And that's a wrap!"***
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Mar 4, 2024, 5:52 PM
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All-TigerNet [13221]
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Id love Biden to be my Daddy.
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Mar 4, 2024, 6:27 PM
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I could be smoking crack and getting the most expensive hookers to do my bidding; while getting filthy rich doing absolutely nothing.
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Hall of Famer [24878]
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And get away with all that as being your excuse for abuse... Classic BS.***
Mar 4, 2024, 10:01 PM
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