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CU Guru [1392]
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craziness in Portland
Jul 17, 2020, 8:27 PM
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I know, theres another post on this already, but I have now seen more on it, with some more details. This sh!t is crazy! Its 1 thing to send officers or agents whatever to stop violent protesters, but these guys are snatching people off he streets just for being on the street. They are unmarked officers, reporting to someone, with a playbook somewhere, with a mission of who knows what. These are similar to trumps secret police in DC a little bit ago. Also no that the Mayor, Gov, want them gone. This is not the Oregon national guard, but what happens if the Gov dispatches the guard to run these clowns out of town?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vWugZACMk
i'm often surprised on here how so many of you are constitutionalists, that applaud gun toting militants on state houses for their freedom against the tyranny of not getting a Fing haircut, or not being able to go to IHop or whatever. this actual tyranny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK6pw9HYww
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News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 8:35 PM
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Re: News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 8:38 PM
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they dont have to loop me in. I didn't even say they dont have a right to be there. I did say they dont have the right to do what their doing.
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Re: News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 8:39 PM
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Re: News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 8:42 PM
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yay for the constitution you claim to be all about
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 8:46 PM
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Re: News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 8:52 PM
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nobody is asking for your sympathy. like most times ur letting your disapproval for someone dictate your responses. I don't know any of these people, BUT I can tell you 100% snatching someone off the street in a unidentified camo outfit and a gun, without even telling them why they are going where ever they are taking them is wrong. theres just no way to defend it except the I don't like them argument ...go on turn a blind eye
I for one disagree what many people say or do, but as long as its legal, I will fight for their rights to do it. you obviously disagree, so theres that
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Re: News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 8:55 PM
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Gonna have to take a different path on this T3, this is wrong. 1st these guys dressing in military uniforms with no emblems/ insignia may indeed have zero Constitutional mandate . 2nd when you have this occurring on possibly Trumps or his minions orders ponder a moment a liberal President ordering you or me rounded up for being to the right of center. Slippery slope indeed as I see it.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 9:03 PM
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Re: News flash
Jul 17, 2020, 9:14 PM
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That is not a function of the CBP thus incorrect use of personnel. Unless you somehow can tell me they were enforcing border crossing violations or smuggling.
Totally wrong and reeks of using federal forces as a private army. Utter dookie to be wearing fatigues in unmarked cars , somebody is gonna get lite up.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Sue them
Jul 17, 2020, 9:19 PM
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Re: Sue them
Jul 17, 2020, 9:25 PM
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Cry? Hardly buddy, thing is you lack a certain ability to separate your feelings/emotions on issues like this. It does make you at times look foolish. Especially for one as Tony points out cites the Constitution.
You want it to stop, most of us do but do it the right way. This is the wrong way.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Sue them
Jul 17, 2020, 9:28 PM
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Re: Sue them
Jul 17, 2020, 9:38 PM
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This is , for you, a good thing cause it is your team. Had discussions with religious folks on why making laws based upon their brand of cloud being is a bad idea. Separation of church and State also ensures should say Muslims or Hindus say become a majority they also will be unable to pas laws based upon their books.
Same here, where the heck are your convictions on State Right hiding right now?
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Rock Defender [54]
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????***
Jul 17, 2020, 9:57 PM
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Re: ????***
Jul 18, 2020, 7:27 PM
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It’s called an analogy. See, same as those religious folks a wanting to make laws based on their religion you are no different in thinking this is a proper way to do things cause it is your team doing it. Neither they nor you are right.
Stopping this stuff rightly falls upon the State, hence my question on States Rights to you. The Constitution is not really a smorgasbord where you only pick the stuff you like.
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Re: Sue them
Jul 17, 2020, 9:29 PM
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What about the rights of the individuals that live there? That live in fear? That lost their businesses? Maybe they asked for help.
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All-TigerNet [11655]
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Wrong....
Jul 17, 2020, 9:39 PM
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CBP works under the umbrella of DHS. Ultimately they can be directed to other needs as directed by DHS.
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All-In [42507]
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Well, of course
Jul 18, 2020, 12:39 PM
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You've made it very clear that you support authoritarianism, a dictatorship, and abuse of law enforcement against the people. And you dislike our Constitution. So this isn't a surprise you favor this.
Thankfully most Americans know this is not a trait of a free nation and that it is in American.
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Rock Defender [54]
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I don’t know where you’ve been but
Jul 18, 2020, 1:10 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Holy #### the irony.***
Jul 18, 2020, 1:12 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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You’re right there with him
Jul 18, 2020, 1:18 PM
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All-In [42507]
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Oh, just been hangin' out.
Jul 20, 2020, 8:32 AM
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Doing Charleston things. But let's not pretend you don't miss me. Remember, you couldn't even bring yourself to block me because you said you enjoy it. I complete you.
I'm not sure what video you're referring to.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Oh, just been hangin' out.
Jul 20, 2020, 9:19 AM
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All-In [42507]
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Re: Oh, just been hangin' out.
Jul 20, 2020, 10:33 AM
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I drink too much. The Rona dies instantly once it hits me.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Here's one of the peaceful protesters they detained
Jul 17, 2020, 9:13 PM
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Posting a refute to your own argument...? Interesting.
Jul 18, 2020, 3:43 AM
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At no time did the camos ID themselves or even state a charge. They just grabbed him off the street.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Posting a refute to your own argument...? Interesting.
Jul 18, 2020, 8:55 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Lol
Jul 18, 2020, 9:07 AM
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You can’t hear what they said or didn’t say. Only people you can hear are the other whiny protesters. The person getting carted off didn’t seem to put up much of a fight. I’m pretty sure I personally wouldn’t have just gone peacefully if I thought they weren’t legit.
You can’t hear what they said because they didn’t say anything.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Orrrrr
Jul 18, 2020, 9:11 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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You’re never gonna get it that it’s not about defending
Jul 18, 2020, 9:24 AM
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people. It’s about due process and the constitution.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: You’re never gonna get it that it’s not about defending
Jul 18, 2020, 9:28 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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What’s that saying about two wrongs?***
Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: What’s that saying about two wrongs?***
Jul 18, 2020, 9:31 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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You’d make a terrible libertarian***
Jul 18, 2020, 9:52 AM
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All-In [25010]
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Too enthralled with 'being in the clique'... Not libertarian***
Jul 18, 2020, 10:07 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Too enthralled with 'being in the clique'... Not libertarian***
Jul 18, 2020, 10:13 AM
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Re: Here's one of the peaceful protesters they detained
Jul 18, 2020, 3:16 PM
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Dressed in all black and wearing a helmet and with other gear.
Not wearing a mask and wearing a MAGA hat and with other gear.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Here's one of the peaceful protesters they detained
Jul 18, 2020, 3:28 PM
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 17, 2020, 9:14 PM
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what???? fox says they aint doing that? lol.
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 12:41 PM
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So the agency accused of secretly and quietly swooping in and grabbing people says they aren't doing it and you blindly believe it...
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Rock Defender [54]
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Just like the Capitol police that you still don’t believe
Jul 18, 2020, 12:49 PM
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All-In [42507]
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They are humans, just like everyone else.
Jul 20, 2020, 10:34 AM
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And among them can be liars and terrible people. It's naive to blindly believe all of them as it is to blindly believe any group of people.
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 7:45 PM
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i would guess that the feds have people on the inside collecting evidence on individuals committing crimes and then arresting them
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Then why aren't they...
Jul 20, 2020, 10:35 AM
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Conducting legitimate arrests instead of just swooping in with rental vans, full camo (### are they trying to hide in?), and whisking people away without identifying themselves?
Why are you supporting big federal government doing this instead of leaving it up to Portland?
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 5:32 PM
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Uh!!d!
Most Americans know that FoxFakeNews lies more than TheRump and that FoxFakeNews often gives TheRump his false stories.
You can't use FoxFakeNews as a source unless you want to be considered insane.
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 5:46 AM
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I like it. Hopefully they are getting roughed up too. F those protesters at this stage.
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If you keep calling them protestors you're going back to...
Jul 18, 2020, 9:03 AM
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the top of my prayer list.
Message was edited by: ClemsonTiger1988®
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Oculus Spirit [94305]
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What's crazy is the...
Jul 18, 2020, 9:08 AM
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City of Portland allowing this madness to continue for 58 days without ending it. At this point in the riots anyone who is in the streets is a party to the crime spree which Portland tolerates.
It take a perverted mind to accuse the authorities of abusing the rioters when they arrest one after two months of tolerance.
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 10:33 AM
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when you people are done wiping your a$$ with the constitution, just remember there the bill of rights too. I wouldn't advice flushing them tho
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 10:58 AM
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 11:25 AM
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The courts can decide that. I am just saying that personally I like it. F em.
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All-In [46957]
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Republicans don't care because it's "the others"
Jul 18, 2020, 12:59 PM
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and not them. It's who Donnie as deemed the enemy so they must be taken care of by any means necessary.
Just like it as all a hoax and masks don't work until they get COVID.
They claim dems are openly cheering on socialism while they are openly cheering on fascism.
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Rock Defender [54]
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LOL
Jul 18, 2020, 1:06 PM
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Re: LOL
Jul 18, 2020, 1:16 PM
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thats where you get it twisted. this sorta thing is not about the citizens (if you like them or agree with them) for me and others. I'll only speak for myself here tho. In a Democracy it should work double for when you disagree actually. Thats what makes it work.
I don't expect you to get it, if you don't get it by now tho.
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Re: LOL
Jul 18, 2020, 1:24 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: LOL
Jul 18, 2020, 1:20 PM
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Re: LOL
Jul 18, 2020, 1:36 PM
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“Side w/ thugs & Criminals” lol
I didn’t TD you, or anyone else. But if you think I give a rats a$$ about if you do or don’t, ur wrong AGAIN... actually I’ll tell you what you can do with those thumbs...
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Re: LOL
Jul 18, 2020, 1:41 PM
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Re: LOL
Jul 18, 2020, 1:46 PM
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Thx, I’ll check it out
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 6:31 PM
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Who cares if mysterious people are snatching "peaceful" protesters off the street. These peaceful protesters contribute nothing to GDP and are probably a negative. So it's fine to ###### them up.
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Re: craziness in Portland
Jul 18, 2020, 6:32 PM
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### = $natch
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