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TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 2:52 PM
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Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Freshman forward Olivier-Maxence Prosper has entered the NCAA transfer portal, per multiple reports. The former top-100-rated prospect averaged 9.7 minutes and 2.5 points over 22 games this season. The Montreal native was rated as a four-star prospect by Rivals and 247Sports, with a No. 82 overall r Read Update » |
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 3:00 PM
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Ouch, this hurts... hope Brad finds some great players to transfer in. Musical players seems to be the name of the game. Immediate transfers could change a great team into a bottom dweller & a dweller into a champion.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 3:08 PM
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That really socks. Really thought He was going to make huge strides like McDaniels and Blossomgame who he reminded me of a lot. Was hoping it was going to be Chase Hunter. Hope that thatsvit unless Hunter leaves.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 3:06 PM
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Wow, that hurts. I was thinking he would probably start next year. Dose this have something to do with Brad leaving or him staying?
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 3:20 PM
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Probably...
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While I’ve come to expect kids to just bail
Mar 24, 2021, 3:15 PM
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If they’re not given everything immediately, this still rings as harshly indicting of brownell whether it should or not. Seems like this kid would’ve developed to be a really good one if he’d given it time.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 3:19 PM
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Next year's inside game appears very weak.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 3:21 PM
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And seems to be getting weaker daily. Ho Hum...........
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 3:26 PM
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We are losing a lot of athletic players is what is concerning to me. We better bring in ay least three good athletes in to replace these guys.
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No way to sugarcoat it, this is huge blow
Mar 24, 2021, 3:37 PM
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O Max had massive upside with this program. This sucks big time.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 3:39 PM
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So much for the excuse makers and their reason #4. “He just brought in a great class.”
Three 4 stars. 20th rated class.
Hall - played well early, but quote from BB - will never play Sims with Hall. So, Hall got reduced playing time, developed very little and hardly played post regular season. 6 minutes against Miami and a whopping 2 against Rutgers.
Kidd - despite being the only center on our roster, played 35 minutes - ALL Season. Did not play after mid feb.
Prosper - . Last 6 games played a max of 5 minutes. 3 against Miami and 0 against Rutgers.
How do you develop when you do not play? How do you ever have an inside game when you don’t play your bigs?
So, now BB goes shopping for others cast offs or disgruntled players. Never mind that chemistry won’t develop. I get the odd player as a role player. But when you need them to come in and be major players/ leaders - then something is wrong.
Now we have the 56th rated class this year.
How does Clemson compete for ACC championships like this?
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 4:36 PM
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Since when has Clemson competed for an ACC basketball championship?
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 5:16 PM
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Since when has Clemson competed for an ACC basketball championship?
Under Cliff Ellis.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 25, 2021, 12:13 PM
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The comment was compete for not play for.
Clemson consistently has not been competitve, read viable realistic opportunity, for ACC Basketball Championships.
Yes blue moon times we have made it to one or been a top 4 tram in league.
That is same for NCAAs..
The last transfer hurts the most. Prosper would have plates 2--3 more years.
Clemson is still searching for consistency in it's basketball program. No one has built that - not Foster, Ellis, Barnes, or Purnell. Brownell is closest only bc he is Clemson's winningest basketball coach. And his program suffers from multiple transfers leaving. That is consistent
We were going to be challenged next year bc we had no replacement for Simms. He did it all. Now the two transfers and one decommit loom imposingly larger today.
Better get to work. Coach BB and Clemson have some serious thinking and improving to do.
We'll see what happens.
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since when should that not always be the goal
Mar 25, 2021, 7:46 AM
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We have to stop using our history as an excuse. We will never be successful with the attitude that we've never had much success so to expect as much is too much. MAKE YOUR OWN HISTORY.
Take Dabo for example, his attitude is Best is the Standard and that should be the goal for not only every sports team but all of us in everyday life. He always set the bar high and expected to compete every year. I remember talking to him at an IPTAY meeting and I was commenting on how I thought the upcoming season we should have a good year but things were setting up nicely for a championship run the following season. He almost took offense and stopped me and said what about this year. This year hasnt happened and anything can happened. We expect to compete every year.
This is the mind set every coach needs to have. Your goal shouldnt be to finish above media expectations or in the upper third/forth of the conference. Your goal should be to be the best. Does this mean if you dont get there its a failure? Of course not, but this is the mind set you have to have. Hence, one of Dabo's goals is to win the conference. I dont think I have ever heard Brownell or any bball coach of recent memory come out and say our goal is to win the conference. In fact, I dont know if I have ever heard him express any goals publicly. He may have and if he has I apologize, but I just dont recall. Its usually general terms such as were working hard and hope to have a great year or something like that but never clearly defining what great is or what the goal is. Sometimes you have to get some guts and go out on a limb and state your goal and put it out for the world to see. Who knows, it could also create some buzz and excitement for the program and turn on some recruits as wanting to be a part of reaching that goal.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 5:48 PM
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We haven't competed for a ACC championship in Brownell's 11 years at Clemson, what makes anyone think that we would next year even if not one player hit the transfer portal????
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 8:13 PM
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Every time Sims went out, Miami and Rutgers pounded the ball inside vs. Hall. In 8 total minutes, I think he gave up 3 fouls and at least 6 points.
And Hall had more immediate upside than Prosper.
I think it was the announcer for Miami who said that Hall and Prosper need a hard freshman offseason in the weight room in order to reach their very real potential in the ACC.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 4:05 PM
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Players dropping like flies. You can't tell me that happy kids transfer at this same rate. If they believe in the system or believe in the coach. Our roster has been a carousel for last 4-5yrs. Every year it gets harder to watch because you don't get engrained with the talents and abilities of the roster because it's new faces continuously. Sims was awesome and I applaud him for hanging for 4yrs. He really was the face of Clemson bball the last 2yrs. I know Trapp put in his time but he never continuously started.
I haven't been spouting 'Fire CBB', but I think it's obvious the state of our bball program is not healthy. I think it's time for change. While I think CBB is a great mentor, he is not a great coach. Feel like he lacks connection with fans and players.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 7:47 PM
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Watch where theses players go and who goes with them. Very dirty behind the scenes shenanigans.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 25, 2021, 7:54 AM
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Also, watch what they become or don't become. Can anyone name one transfer out of the program who has gone on to be a better player and a major contributor to their team at another school?
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 7:57 PM
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We had better hit the jackpot in the portal or there will walk-ons playing. Kids today want to play even at a lower lever and that will clearly be the case for Prosper.
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ouch...thought he might be a starter next season***
Mar 24, 2021, 7:59 PM
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So...we go
Mar 24, 2021, 9:11 PM
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from bad to worse. It would be interesting to know reasons behind all the transfers beyond we want to play and/or we want to play for a better team. If Prosper had been good enough to be out there, he would have been out there. Perhaps there's a money trail on the incoming prospect...just kidding and enjoying wild speculation I think basketball players are harder to coach up. The preciseness of shooting is more a talent than a learned skill. We coached up players in football and went big on facilities which were pivotal in attracting higher rated players right off the bat versus having to start at a low skill level and coach them up. What are we going to do-renovate Littlejohn again?? We can't pay them. What does that leave-success or the lack thereof? I don't blame Brownell. We are out recruited because of our location to big basketball schools. 30 point blow outs don't help. How's a potential incoming kid going to picture himself-going to Duke and getting his a$$ whooped? We don't have much we can hang out to attract recruits.
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Shooting isn't a learned skill? Really!!***
Mar 24, 2021, 10:31 PM
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THIS is on BB....this guy has all kinds of ability
Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 PM
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and we're giving minutes to guys like Hunter who can't even hit the backboard on a FT...
Clemson is going to have a hard time putting 13 guys on the bench next year-- Better put signs up in FIKE immediately or our walk-ons will become starters.
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I predict Kidd is gone by the end of the week
Mar 24, 2021, 9:49 PM
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He got NO CHANCE to play this year & he and Prosper were 2 of our more athletic guys.
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Re: I predict Kidd is gone by the end of the week
Mar 24, 2021, 10:30 PM
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Absolutely no one who has done a reasonable amount of study of Clemson basketball expected Kidd to play this year. He is the age of a HS senior who graduated early and came to Clemson expecting to redshirt and get a year of College coaching and practice to get a head start on his career next year. If you are going to try to talk Clemson basketball at least come armed with a few facts.
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Re: can't even hit the backboard on a FT
Mar 24, 2021, 10:31 PM
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You're right, Prosper's 68.2 FT% is better than Hunter's 66.7%.
But either way that's basically 2/3 of their shots. Why drag a guy who is staying into your complaint about another player leaving?
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Starting to feel like a sinking ship, BB did poor job of
Mar 24, 2021, 9:54 PM
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using the bench. He would take out hot players and stop the momentum. And I agree, Prosper was much better then Chase Hunter...
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 24, 2021, 10:10 PM
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Dang
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 25, 2021, 6:37 AM
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Weird season for the WHOLE TEAM. Quarintine & Isolation had to be a ##### for these college aged kids. Prosper is a long way from home. I just wish the team could have experienced normal college life and a packed Littlejohn.
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Re: Weird season for the WHOLE TEAM.Quarintine & Isolation
Mar 25, 2021, 7:48 AM
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This is exactly what out-of-state parents keep saying in the facebook groups. None of these students or student-athletes are getting the real Clemson experience.
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Re: TNET: Reports: Clemson forward enters transfer portal
Mar 25, 2021, 7:29 AM
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He probably understands Clemson basketball is going nowhere on the Brownell.
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Hahahahaha!!!!
Mar 25, 2021, 7:55 AM
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Get out while the gettin is good, young man! This program is a dumpster fire with BB at the helm
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