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Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 26, 2022, 9:38 PM
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#3 Malik Mustapha who happened to be Shipley's high school teammate. Even with the angle I can't see how this guy was able to run him down based on Shipley's track reputation.
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=16407331
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 26, 2022, 9:39 PM
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Adrenaline can do wonders for an athlete.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 26, 2022, 9:40 PM
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Just from memory it looked to me like Ship just ran out of gas.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 27, 2022, 5:26 AM
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That’s what I thought also. It looked like he wasn’t quite in stride.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 27, 2022, 5:45 AM
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I went back and rewatched it and he had plenty of time to hit his stride. He never got touched which I initially thought he got bumped.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 27, 2022, 5:33 AM
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Kept waiting for that ETN afterburner to kick in and it never did. I know he's often compared to Mccaffery but I haven't seen the comparison yet. Two different offenses I suppose.
ETN, and I think baby bro will be too are generational players. Maybe the best back to ever play at Clemson... Or at least that I'll see.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Oct 2, 2022, 9:28 AM
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ETN had Tony Dorsett type after burners
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 26, 2022, 9:50 PM
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I believe Shipley was still getting up to speed and the tackler was already at full speed.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 26, 2022, 9:52 PM
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His 400 time is so bad that it can't have been an event he took seriously. My guess is that he was one of the many HS football players that "ran track" as a way to stay in shape in the off-season. Even mediocre high schoolers should run sub 55 seconds.
He was definitely faster than his 400 or 100 times on Saturday. He looked like a 10.5 100 guy.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 26, 2022, 9:55 PM
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You do realize even ETN was run down many times. I will take 53 yard run on the 1st play on O any game.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 26, 2022, 10:04 PM
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That was a few double cheeseburgers at Mac's and Bo Biscuits ago.
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I often wondered how much carrying a football impacts…
Sep 26, 2022, 10:07 PM
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…speed.
Sure, the ball is light, but that lack of a symmetrical stride with your arms has to slow you down, even if by only 10%.
Most of the guys at this level have elite speed in both of those positions.
While I wanted Ship to pull away, my thought was that I have only seen ONE player in Clemson football history that I have NEVER seen caught from behind (and he said so himself), and that was Sammy Watkins.
I had relinquished the fact that Ship was going to be caught, but relishing the fact that he rolled off a 50 yard run.
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Re: I often wondered how much carrying a football impacts…
Sep 26, 2022, 10:10 PM
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Jacoby Ford and CJ rarely got chased down from behind.
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but.. CJ without the ball could chase down CJ with the ball***
Sep 26, 2022, 10:17 PM
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CJ RAN faster with the ball than any back I have ever seen.***
Sep 26, 2022, 10:56 PM
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Re: CJ RAN faster with the ball than any back I have ever seen.***
Oct 2, 2022, 9:26 AM
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If may memory is right Spud, I recall one of the coaches saying at that time Jacoby was faster on the track, but CJ was faster with a football in his hands.
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Re: I often wondered how much carrying a football impacts…
Sep 26, 2022, 10:28 PM
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Personally, I only remember Spiller being chased down when he was out of gas from putting in work from prior plays.
When he was fresh, I never seen someone chase him down -- except Jacoby Ford on that kickoff return against Maryland where Spiller lost a shoe taking it to the house.
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Re: I often wondered how much carrying a football impacts…
Sep 27, 2022, 5:55 AM
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I only remember one time that CJ (when healthy) was caught from behind. We were playing NC St in the Valley. I think that the DB was actually from Sumter. However, no one was quicker.
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Shipley is really fast. So is this guy, and he caught Ship
Sep 26, 2022, 10:40 PM
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from behind - this time. Was it a little surprising to see Shipley run down from behind, given his reputation as a legit track guy with break-away speed? Sure, a little. But, Ship had already run 20 yards when this guy started running after him; plus Ship was carrying a football and trying to find the correct line to avoid other would-be tacklers; and he just got caught from behind by another really fast guy. Here's the take away for me - Shipley is still really fast, and will still break a lot of long runs using his speed. No worries.
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Ship may not have gotten those last 35 yds on that first run
Sep 26, 2022, 10:47 PM
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but he got those last 2 inches when it mattered most at the end.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 26, 2022, 11:50 PM
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Mustapha ran a 4.5 40 in high school. That's fast
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Sep 27, 2022, 9:54 AM
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4/10 of a second faster than me. A 4.9 40 sure seems slow now a days.
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Shipley had two guys pursuing one on either side. He saw
Sep 27, 2022, 10:23 AM
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... he saw the guy coming on his left and he instinctively cut back to his right.
He cut over into the path of the guy who had the angle.
If just one guy had been in pursuit, he probably would have scored in that play.
Shipley would have needed to be much faster than those guys to have avoided them both.
Watch the play again and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Oct 2, 2022, 9:22 AM
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Sometimes he who looks back get caught
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Re: Track credentials of the guy that ran down Ship on 1st play
Oct 2, 2022, 9:31 PM
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You coots are making way too much of that one play. Shipley is a good back. He’s probably not as fast as our Shipley brothers were, but he runs hard and is pretty tough.
I am friends with coach Bob Shipley who is the father of our Shipley boys if this was his long lost son, the missing Shipley. He laughed after I asked if we were recruiting him back then and he said Shipley was a Clemson lock. You guys don’t seem very appreciative of either him, or Dabo. Wanna trade?
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