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While we're talking about Brownell
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While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:16 PM



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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:18 PM

Sweet 16?

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:24 PM

we lost to AP #4 Kansas who would be eliminated before the final. UNC had won 18 straight games in 2001 and appeared unbeatable. We completely derailed their season. After starting 21-2, they closed 5-5. Our best win in 2017-18 was against #18 Miami. Poot. Brad Sucks!

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You're trying to compare the 2nd round of the postseason to

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:38 PM

a regular season game that didn't affect either team going forward...UNC still went to the NCAAs and we still finished 9th place in a 9 team league...As a matter of fact, that victory over UNC was 50% of our conference wins that season and was the lone W during a 13 game streak...Talk about POOT...Now go get your shinebox

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Re: You're trying to compare the 2nd round of the postseason to


Jun 27, 2023, 4:41 PM

We didn't win a championship of any sort either season. You have offered nothing persuasive about a Round of 32 game against Auburn being a better victory. The correct answer to the original query would have been ending the streak at Chapel Hill. That would be a closer call. I'll still take the win over #1 UNC.

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:19 PM

Fire Brad.

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Class of ‘71. Went through “rat season” and glad I did.


Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:20 PM

PEOPLE GET BANNED FROM THIS SITE ALL THE TIME BUT SOMEHOW COACH VIZCOOT IS ALLOWED TO TALK SH!T ABOUT CLEMSONS BASKETBALL TEAM AND COACH 24/7. IT IS REALLY VERY PUZZLING.

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:23 PM

Sir, you have all caps on. Just letting you know.

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:24 PM

GOSH, THANKS.

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:25 PM [ in reply to Re: While we're talking about Brownell ]



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beat me to it. The Derp is a criminal.***

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:45 PM



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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


He's thederppirateroberts, castigator of Tigernet.***

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:52 PM



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Re: He's thederppirateroberts, castigator of Tigernet.***


Jun 28, 2023, 7:23 AM

GUESSING MOST OF YOU VIZTIZ FOLLOWERS LOVE BUD LIGHT.

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What’s that supposed to mean?***

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Jun 28, 2023, 5:04 PM



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Re: He's thederppirateroberts, castigator of Tigernet.***


Jun 28, 2023, 6:22 PM [ in reply to Re: He's thederppirateroberts, castigator of Tigernet.*** ]

I continue to drink Bud Light just as I have for years and years. No apologies for their buffoonish marketing ploy. They let those folks go. I spend my money on something I like the taste of not some craft beer that tastes like a wet old dog.

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:25 PM [ in reply to Re: While we're talking about Brownell ]

I'm pointing out something nice about Larry Shyatt. Once a Tiger always a Tiger.

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 5:01 PM [ in reply to Re: While we're talking about Brownell ]

Get facts straight. Viz doesn’t talk smack about the team, just the crummy coach.

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And Larry's a much nicer guy...***

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:20 PM



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Nope, the game against Auburn in the second round was bigger***

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:24 PM



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Re: Nope, the game against Auburn in the second round was bigger***

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:30 PM

yes because the #19 team is clearly more significant than a conference rival ranked #1 in the country on an 18 game win streak. it was a very good win by Brad Brownell standards though.

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A W in the second round is about as good as Clemson


Jun 27, 2023, 4:40 PM

has had in Basketball...Only advanced out of the Sweet 16 ONCE

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:41 PM

He finally beat the Tarheels in Chapel Hill. That counts for something.

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:46 PM

This is the only valid argument. I disagree. UNC were trash that year. We should have won. And that victory extended Brownell's leash - a net negative. But I can at least appreciate the argument. Thinking that beating #19 Auburn in the Round of 32 (the only other point made so far), solely because it took place in the post season, shows how debilitated our expectations are in the Brownell era. We fired Shyatt after year 5 because we believed we could be better. We retained Brownell after 13 years because our admin and a segment of our fanbase believe we can't.

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Jun 27, 2023, 7:12 PM

I'm definitely not with you on this one. Doesn't matter how good we were or how good they were, all that matters was ending the streak. How many times did you hear something about Clemson having never won at Chapel Hill? A million? Easily more meaningful than Shyatt's win vs #1. That wasn't even Clemson's first win vs #1

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:48 PM [ in reply to Re: While we're talking about Brownell ]

It was kind of luck of the draw, someone was going to do it eventually, but truly this is the only legacy he will have. That and all the millions of dollars he’s grifted out of Clemson. And all the losses. He will be remembered.

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They both stink

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Jun 27, 2023, 4:58 PM

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Re: They both stink

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Jun 27, 2023, 5:20 PM

This is also an acceptable reply

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 27, 2023, 5:30 PM

How was that win over #1 UNC meaningful? What came out of it?

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Beating Auburn by 40 in the NCAA Tournament

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Jun 27, 2023, 6:42 PM

Get a life. Brownell wins on the road in the ACC. ACC road wins were rare under Shyatt.

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Don’t pay attention to those clowns…

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Jun 27, 2023, 6:51 PM

Everyone who knows anything about basketball understands you judge a head coach on conference road win percentage as compared to the worst coach in recent school history. It’s laughable when they try to bring in other metrics like overall wins/losses, conference regular season rankings, ACC tournament finishes, post season appearances, post season wins, top 25 rankings, etc…

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You forgot about the first ever victory in Chapel Hill

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Jun 27, 2023, 6:43 PM

Change my mind loser. Go back to the Lunatic Fringe Clubhouse and lock the door.

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Re: You forgot about the first ever victory in Chapel Hill

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Jun 27, 2023, 6:51 PM

Fire Brad

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Class of ‘71. Went through “rat season” and glad I did.


Significance of win over #1 UNC is that's the same day

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Jun 27, 2023, 8:00 PM

NASCAR lost Dale Earnhardt.

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Jun 27, 2023, 9:05 PM

Beating UNC in CH.

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That’s gutsy…I’ll give him that, but, are we seriously…

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Jun 28, 2023, 7:54 AM

…still talking about this?

This problem got me riled up again after the Morehead State debacle, and I got on a diatribe about Dusty May at FAU.

I can’t explain why I got emotionally involved again about the Clemson men’s basketball team. Somewhere deep inside of me, I guess I do care. But, I’ve got to seriously CURB MY ENTHUSIASM. Any coaching change here is totally up to Brownell.

I’ll crawl back under my rock for Clemson men’s basketball.

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Jun 28, 2023, 10:35 AM

Any update on why that game was "meaningful"?

Did clemson turn the corner after this game? Did this when help propel clemson in the ACC standings, or help us get into the tournament?

I dont see how "derailing" UNC's season is in anyway meaningful to clemson basketball.

I would argue that most wins in the 2017/2018 regular season were all more "meaningful" than us beating #1 UNC

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell

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Jun 28, 2023, 10:37 AM

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Any update on why that game was "meaningful"?

Did clemson turn the corner after this game? Did this when help propel clemson in the ACC standings, or help us get into the tournament?

I dont see how "derailing" UNC's season is in anyway meaningful to clemson basketball.

I would argue that most wins in the 2017/2018 regular season were all more "meaningful" than us beating #1 UNC

havent you figured out yet that according to coach vizcoot coach brownell has zero meaningful victories.

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UNC went on to win the ACC, clearly we ruined their season***

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Jun 28, 2023, 3:09 PM [ in reply to Re: While we're talking about Brownell ]



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Re: UNC went on to win the ACC, clearly we ruined their season***

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Jun 28, 2023, 3:30 PM

Very neat trick how they “went on to win the ACC” despite losing to Duke in the conference championship - their arch rival who would would go on to win the NCAA tournament. I’m sure that season ranks way up there to the average UNC fan.

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The finished the season 13-3, tied for 1st place...Is there

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Jun 28, 2023, 3:42 PM

something you're not following here?

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Re: The finished the season 13-3, tied for 1st place...Is there

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Jun 28, 2023, 3:55 PM

Man, we destroyed their season! Epic!!

What do we have to show for it? Nothing? Sounds super meaningful

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Re: The finished the season 13-3, tied for 1st place...Is there

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Jun 28, 2023, 4:23 PM

What do we have to show for any season? Brad has been here 13 years and so far his staunchest supporters have offered exactly 2 choices that are arguably better that the best Larry Shyatt mustered in 5. Brad probably doesn’t want you in his corner if this is the best you can do.

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Re: The finished the season 13-3, tied for 1st place...Is there

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Jun 28, 2023, 3:56 PM [ in reply to The finished the season 13-3, tied for 1st place...Is there ]

It’s almost as though you are unaware that the ACC does not recognize the regular season “champion” as the actual ACC Champion of that season - evidenced by the list of prior season champions available here: https://theacc.com/sports/mbball/
. Winning the regular season makes you the top seed in the ACC tourney. Winning the ACC tourney makes you the ACC Champion. Described any other way is a misnomer, regardless of how commonly it is done.

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We won the ACC regular season in 1990 and no amount of


Jun 28, 2023, 4:05 PM

Brad butthurt from you is going to diminish that

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Re: We won the ACC regular season in 1990 and no amount of

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Jun 28, 2023, 4:21 PM

You are correct - we won the regular season. Now check the ACC for their list of “Champions” for that season and see who they have listed as the ACC Champion for that season.

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Brownell first ever to win in Chapel Hill.


Jun 28, 2023, 7:24 PM

He deserves a lifetime contract for that.

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Jun 28, 2023, 7:33 PM

Don’t feed the coot trolls….

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Jun 28, 2023, 8:44 PM

Lol. Thanks for bumping the thread.

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Re: While we're talking about Brownell


Jun 28, 2023, 8:45 PM

No worries coot as I always try to support the less fortunate

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Jul 6, 2023, 7:47 PM

Coaches are never defined by just won victory. Shyatt coached a total of 5 years Brownell has has been better for a lot longer.

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Jul 6, 2023, 10:52 PM

Way to Frankenstein an old Brownel sucks thread. Did you miss defending him so much you had to hit the way back machine. Brad sucks and you know it scock.

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You are wrong


Jul 6, 2023, 8:00 PM

First-ever victory in Chapel Hill. Something no other coach has done. Now go back to the Lunatic Fringe Clubhouse and lock the door. You are going to be extremely disappointed this year because the 2023-24 Tigers are going to be better than last year's team. Brownell is America's least appreciated coach. But he keeps on working. Clemson fans need to get on board.

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Re: You are wrong

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Jul 6, 2023, 8:12 PM

Cobbox® said:

First-ever victory in Chapel Hill. Something no other coach has done. Now go back to the Lunatic Fringe Clubhouse and lock the door. You are going to be extremely disappointed this year because the 2023-24 Tigers are going to be better than last year's team. Brownell is America's least appreciated coach. But he keeps on working. Clemson fans need to get on board.




Exactly this team won 23 games last year and beat UNC but it was not enough for some fans. It would be different if this was Duke or UNC where they had a history of historic teams this is Clemson a football school where the basketball team is overachieving.

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