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Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 11:57 AM
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It seems like that would be the only remedy left. I can't lie, it's pretty sickening to see guys quit on their team on the final game of the season.
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:01 PM
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I doubt it. A lot of today's kids are more worried about me me me than team
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:02 PM
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Playoff expansion will not help because there is no way there will ever be enough teams in the Playoffs to make a difference.
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:08 PM
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I am personally thinking that Bama killing Cinci today will end the expansion discussion. But to answer you question, I don’t think more playoff teams will keep some from sitting.
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:16 PM
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I'm going to chime in with "Let's find out" ..I don't recall a player quitting when their school is in the playoff but I am curious..For one I would like to see a few more teams & if they come up with a scheme that brings in more money we will see expansion...but as some of you have already mentioned it won't stop all of it.
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:12 PM
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No.
Expanding the playoffs would not put an end to opt-outs.
Eventually, agents and other influences will instill that same "irrational belief" that the one or two-bowl games extra will hurt draft stock - so don't risk it mentality! Playoffs or not - "evidently these kids don't see the need to finish"! They've been on campus for at least 3 years and were helped by that school/teammates to become a draft-able player - "Then Suddenly" - they might get hurt and risk their draft stock falling!
It won't change that - because wether it's a playoff bowl game or not; bowl games prior to the last few years were always played during this time. The NFL didn't go anywhere for those players in past years and wouldn't for these players. Except, it's a chance for an agent to begin the "bleeding process" earlier of their new clients!
The vampires(agents) don't want to wait until later!
End of the day - I say no - because a National Championship won't help their draft status! Selfish is selfish and irrational is irrational. More football no matter the stake is more football no matter the stake. If the logic is sound in the first place( it isn't ) then don't expect players to suddenly stop opting out; particularly if they are around #10-#12 playing a Bama, Ohio State 1st round. Agent might say, "this will hurt your draft status with a bad performance"!
You'll get a lot of claiming injury; but they still won't play.
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:19 PM
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Consider this:
On the conference championship weekend play 3 other games involving the top ranked 6 teams not involved in conference championship games. 8 games total/16 teams. Have the mid tier bowl sponsors sponsor these games. The 8 winners advance to the playoffs. This then creates 7 playoff games that could be sponsored by higher tier bowl sponsors like the New Years 6 games. Could rotate locations between the 4 playoffs/2 semifinals and championship game. That creates 15 bowl/playoff games that should be of more interest to schools and players and maybe reduce opt outs. If we need more bowl games the lower tier bowl sponsors can extend invitations to other teams that don’t make the conference championship or playoff games. If the schools want to play they accept, if they don’t want to play they can decline.
For those that complain that the losers of the conference championship games should still be in the playoffs, I disagree but another option would be to eliminate the confidence championship games as such and seed the same 16 teams (10 power 5 divisional winners and 6 at large bases on rankings) for the 8 first round games. I don’t favor this option but it might help satisfy the SEC loudmouths and ESecPN crowd.
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:23 PM
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Wouldn't that shorten the regular season though?
Football pays the bills for all the "non-revenue sports"! Take one or two "football gates away" and it might ruin some athletic departments. Football drives the bus - even at non-contending schools who have fans that show up and support them and want to see them on TV(dollars).
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:27 PM
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Only teams in the playoffs would play more games. That is a manufactured issue from those opposing change.
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:47 PM
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Only teams in the playoffs would play more games. That is a manufactured issue from those opposing change.
That's my point!
In your example, a potential champion would go over 15 games which is the max. You would have to eliminate 1 game from every potential playoff school's schedule. Or rather one pay-day from it; with no guarantee, they could make it up(because the playoffs aren't guaranteed).
Schools went to more games for a reason from years ago, ya know! Air Force, Wyoming, East Carolina and a bunch of other schools aren't going to sign off on that. Giving up a game, no way!
Round of 16 - would be gm. 13
Round of 8 - would be gm. 14
Round of 4 - would be gm. 15
Championship - would be. 16 games!
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:49 PM
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I don’t see anything wrong with 2 teams playing a 16th game. Why is 15 max??
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It would reduce them, but not end them.
Dec 31, 2021, 12:36 PM
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Seems like the logical direction of college football given the rapid decline in bowl game interest.
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For a bit, maybe. But it would come back
Dec 31, 2021, 12:37 PM
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you'd still have opt-outs in the non-CFP games. But we didn't think players would opt out the NY6 games, then once that happened it became the norm & not the exception.
Think you'd get to the point in an expanded playoff a guy's gonna get the advice of sit out & protect himself for the draft, then its gonna open the pandora's box for the playoff
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:39 PM
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No but with holding some of the NIL $ if you do would. I think this for opt out and portal would be fair. Noy all of the money but 15 - 25% would be good
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Re: Would Playoff Expansion Put an End to "Opt-Outs"?
Dec 31, 2021, 12:42 PM
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I can tell you what won’t end opt-outs… NIL, 40+ lack-luster bowl games full of pregame talk about opt-outs, the NCAA as a governing body, the smoked filled room of criteria that the CFP committee operates within. Expand the dang playoffs! Play 8 regular season games! I don’t care! I’m fine with a 128 team playoff. 1st 3 rounds the higher seed hosts… heck, split the gate if you’re worried about supporting non-revenue sports. Tie later rounds to bowl games. Have playback games for 3rd, 5th, 7th, etc. if you worried about the number of games. Settle it on the field!
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