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Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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What is a fan? Assuming it includes being blindly satisfied, happy and supportive regardless of actual events??
I thought I was a fan. A lifelong fan. A 25 year season ticket holder. An alum. An annual donor beyond athletics. But I think Dabo said I’m not.
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A fan is a device, either electrically or manually powered,
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Oct 17, 2023, 5:19 PM
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that moves air to create a cooling effect.
You are welcome.
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Re: A fan is a device, either electrically or manually powered,
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Oct 17, 2023, 9:46 PM
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that moves air to create a cooling effect.
You are welcome.
Electric motor powered fans are used in all sorts of applications in Heating, Ventilating, & Air Conditioning. Fans are also used for industrial ventilation (evaporative cooling) and
exhaust systems (exhaust of heated air, unsanitary air, noxious and toxic air, etc.)
Refrigerators and clothes dryers have fans to circulate air for cooling or drying. Convection ovens have fans to increase the rate of cooking.
I am not sure which of these fans are te bad 1,5% that Dabo was referencing. But the fans serving toilets are often stinky.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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Being a fan means supporting your team no matter what. But you can acknowledge the issues with your team.
Being a fan to TNet however, means having a cult like devotion to Swinney and everything he says or does. I think many of them are Dabo fans and not Clemson fans.
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Re: If you're one and not the other, something's wrong.
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Oct 17, 2023, 6:04 PM
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just sayin
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Re: But that's just it......
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Oct 17, 2023, 6:03 PM
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If you're fan, be a fan.... stay in your lane. I have similar "credentials".
Some many CU fans ( as well as most other college football programs ) have this mistaken belief that the football program is better because they won't tolerate failure, or a lack of success, or anything but a ______ championship. It's just laughable and really insane. You're a freaking fan, me too. Don't act like it will get worse or it won't get better if you don't say something.
I swear I think so many CU fans want to win as much so they can personally be happy and/or not catch crap from a work buddy or opposing fan...... they have NO CLUE how hard these players work and how dedicated they are. They want to win and know they're expected to win. Let them be kids and have fun watching them win. Don't expect them to win every time as it honestly just ruins it. Remember, they won't be better just because you think you and the rest of us deserve better. Enjoy the ride.
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Dont disagree, but one point. When they start getting paid, are they really still just kids?***
Oct 17, 2023, 7:08 PM
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Re: Dont disagree, but one point. When they start getting paid, are they really still just kids?***
Oct 17, 2023, 7:26 PM
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What makes our NIL players any less deserving of respect and our appreciation than any other team’s players?
If the NIL thing has ruined your ability to appreciate what our players have done / are doing, then why not find another one of life’s innumerable diversionary pleasures to occupy your time?
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Dabo Was Being Kind
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Oct 17, 2023, 6:18 PM
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Those of you that complain every time we don’t blow out every opponent, have apparently forgotten how things were 30 years ago in the analog days. Back then, Clemson Fans were known as an incredibly loyal group that supported the teams and players thru thick and thin. We traveled to away games, knowing that our odds were 50/50 at best. During that period Ford won a championship, but we had many seasons of mediocrity.
So you might say our fans were great, but our teams were spirited. Fans wanted information, but it was scarce. We knew we didn’t know everything, so the microscopic things were invisible.
Reel forward and look at it today - WAY more info is available today. It feels like we are counting poops like greyhound bettors. You could only read the Orange & White so many times, now there is new info available every hour.
So I would say that the average fan is more knowledgeable these days. During this same time, along came anonymous boards, where people develop an alter ego to fill the voids in their real lives and say things they would never say to another person irl.
It is now popular to railroad anyone that ever falls short of perfection, and believe that it would be easy to replace Dabo.
Most of us can look at Tenn and see how they fell on their own sword with Fulmer, taking 20+ years to regroup. We can also understand that 18 year olds have some growing to do and they will do it on the field. The same people that hated DJU, now want Cade out. Where do you think these guys are grown?
So yes, if you think we should fire Dabo because 2023 isn’t perfect, you are a spoiled brat and need to grow up. If you think you know even close to as much as our coaches, you are delusional. If you think 20 year olds are fully mature, you live in a fantasy world.
Many people have gone to school and started life, never having known a mediocre season. Well here we are. The strong minded will persevere and be loyal fans. Those that might have run their mouths a bit too much during our most recent run, May have to dial it back at the water cooler or take the flags off of your cars. Nobody needed to be so obnoxious anyway. If your diploma value has anything to do with sports, you are missing the big picture.
You asked, so the bottom line is one of entitlement. Those that wouldn’t have attended Clemson if not for football success are not equipped to handle disappointment and lash out at other fans that have experienced more and therefore have more patience.
Wrap your minds around the fact that you might be in your 30s or 40s, but you still might be an immature fan, with a today only mentality.
The final point is that if you really want to go the UGA route, you haven’t paid a bit of attention to what Dabo is about…if raising up young men to be great men isn’t your thing, move over to Stripper/Streetrace U. It is right up the road, but I’d stay off the road after midnight.
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Re: yikes 52%. Do you need a Doctor ?***
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Re: Dabo Was Being Kind
Oct 17, 2023, 9:50 PM
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Very well said …….. agree completely.
I absolutely hate losing games ……… in any sport. But I also understand games are hard to win, other teams have good players and coaches, and fans. We have been spoiled, but I think I have always been able to keep sports in perspective.
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Well thought out - I agree with most of that. : - )***
Oct 18, 2023, 4:28 PM
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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Oct 17, 2023, 6:29 PM
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Well, according to Dabo and his 98.5% ers, a true Clemson fan never, ever questions him, his coaching assistants, the players, the play calling, play execution or development of said players. Never. Don’t question losing to the coots at home, don’t question why DJ was kept in games, and Cade wasn’t played more, losing by 3 touchdowns to a basketball school, play calling during the FSU game, or barely beating a crap Weak Florist team.
How this team has gone from WRU to WTH….just don’t go there.
Do not question or criticize and thou shalt be welcomed into the sacred 98.5% of Clemson Fandom according to Coach Swinney.
Just shut up and cheer!
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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Ah, an obnoxious 1.5%er. Clemson winning in football does not make YOU more of a man. You feel important around your coworkers when your team wins. It shows how intelligent you are to pick a big, tough football team to pull for. In some way you think that puts more hair on your saggy chest. The only thing that Clemson’s winning or losing affects in your life is your ego. You are not important to the Clemson football program and people are tired of your constant complaining.
My advice is to grow up and get over yourself. Your opinions are like the rest of ours’. They do not matter to anyone else.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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Go back to watching NewsMax, eating Nilla Wafers, and take some fiber pills for your constipation Old Man.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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Your the one that sounds constipated….just sayin.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
Oct 17, 2023, 7:28 PM
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Reads like you’ve been mad since Clemson removed the tampon dispensers from the men’s bathrooms.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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😂😂😂
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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Well, according to Dabo and his 98.5% ers, a true Clemson fan never, ever questions him, his coaching assistants, the players, the play calling, play execution or development of said players. Never. Don’t question losing to the coots at home, don’t question why DJ was kept in games, and Cade wasn’t played more, losing by 3 touchdowns to a basketball school, play calling during the FSU game, or barely beating a crap Weak Florist team.
How this team has gone from WRU to WTH….just don’t go there.
Do not question or criticize and thou shalt be welcomed into the sacred 98.5% of Clemson Fandom according to Coach Swinney.
Just shut up and cheer!
I will always love the Tigers. I've just accepted the best is done. And it was great decade.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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A fan that Dabo likes must do the following:
Pump sunshine
Never point out Failures or flaws
Pump sunshine
Be content with losing
Pump sunshine
Never point out decline in program
Pump sunshine
Accept all the BS excuses
Pump sunshine
Accept lack of player development
Pump sunshine
Last bit not least....pump sunshine
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Context matters
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Oct 17, 2023, 6:31 PM
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False questions = meaningless answers.
You are implying that Dabo’s definition of a fan means that the fan must be blindly satisfied, etc, with operative word being ‘blindly.’
We won 10 and eleven games, respectively, in ‘down’ years of 2021 and 2022, respectively. The only 25+ year ‘fans’ who are mad about that because multiple 10+ year winning seasons are beneath Clemson must have a terrible case of amnesia.
Why on earth did you remain as a Clemson fan starting before 1998 (a period of thoroughly mediocre Clemson football), followed by 25 year ago collapse during 1998 season, when Tommy West won a whopping 3 games? Tommy Bowden’s teams won 9 games in 3 seasons during his tenure from 2000 through 2007. Each of his other years his teams won 8 games twice, 7 games twice, and 6 games twice. The season of 2008 T.Bowden got fired midway through, with Dabo brought in to clean up the scraps. 2008 team won 7 games.
Dabo won 9 and 6 games, respectivey, in 2009 and 2010.
Starting 1991 through 2010, Clemson had ZERO seasons of 10+ wins. 20 consecutive years with less than 10 wins. Starting 2011, Clemson has never had a season with less than 10 wins.
There is a team down there in Columbia that is full of fans that have good reason to complain. That team has had 4 years of 10+ wins in their entire history. Starting 1956 that team has played 10+ games every season. Their last 10+ win season was 2013.
This is called context.
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Context is also realizing that those Clemson teams from 20-30 years ago
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didn’t have nearly the advantages that our 2020s teams have had.
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Re: Context is also realizing that those Clemson teams from 20-30 years ago
Oct 17, 2023, 7:21 PM
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Your Gamecocks also have those same ‘new times’ advantages as us … plus more, with SEC money.
Or, if you want to stick to ACC teams, then FSU is your template for how it’s done. Whoop-te-do that they are having a better year than us in 2023. What we’re they doing with THEIR big time resources the previous 6 years?
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You're right there. Dabo has truly built an amazing
Oct 17, 2023, 10:01 PM
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foundation for the football program over his 14 full seasons here and the advantages and position we're in today is pretty special. Clemson U overall is far more on people's radars worldwide than at any point in our history, largely in part to what he has delivered as Coach.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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Some of y’all are hilarious. Nothing is as absolute as y’all make it sound. Dabo doesn’t say no one can be questioned, y’all just hear that because it fits your narrative. You can not like some of the things you see from the team or coaches and still be a fan. You can also take what life and sports deal you and remain positive and hopeful and still be a fan too.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
Oct 17, 2023, 6:47 PM
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What then is he referring to, as far as fans go? He has become consistent in criticizing fans over the past 3 seasons. The man makes over $11 million/year. And this program has seen a decline in 3 seasons. He tells fans to “show up” and support this team. I don’t make Dabo money. I don’t make his assistants’ kind of money. But he wants us to fork out thousands of dollars to come to these games. We pay the money, yet are told we are “bad fans” if we aren’t happy with the outcome of these games that we spend time and money to attend. He’s always allowed to throw out blanket statements and then play “aw, shucks” and get away with it.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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His “blanket statements” don’t have the level of detail y’all want to attribute to them. That’s all I’m saying. Of course he wants fans to show up and support the team. That’s a far cry from no one is allowed to criticize anything about the program.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
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Oh gosh, another jealous fan who is unhappy about his financial status who believes that anyone making big money is required to be perfect.
You buy season tickets. That’s great.
Help Clemson to have the financial resources to keep up with the SEC and B1G teams. In addition to what you pay for season tickets, how about coughing up another $25,000 per year to IPTAY.
Money talks and BS walks.
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You either have it or you don’t. Sorry.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
Oct 17, 2023, 7:32 PM
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Just drink the Kool-Aide and agree everything is great, despite what you think you might have seen… and you’re good.
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Re: Can some of the 98.5% ers define
Oct 17, 2023, 7:37 PM
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Drink the doo-do ice drinks down in Columbia with your Gamecock brethren. They complain constantly, but at least have good reason to do so.
Kool Aid is better than you deserve.
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DId Dabo question what "is" a fan or was it about 1.5%
Oct 17, 2023, 10:11 PM
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of our overall awesome fans not being part of the 98.5% of that group that are amazing?
So, it's all good. If you're a fan, Dabo thinks you're awesome. Maybe you're just not an amazing one?
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Dabo is trying to have his cake and eat it too.
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Calling out people for being disappointed in the expectations HE helped give fans fans in the preseason.
He's not happy with some criticism. He called them out, realized his mistake, then said oh "its only 1.5%" that complain to the level I don't like.
I love me some Dabo, but calling out fans isn't too smart in my opinion. Don't bite the hand that feeds you and feeds you VERY well.
Just fix the offense and stop worrying about people on social media - including us on Tnet!
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