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Don't.....trust.....them
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Don't.....trust.....them

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Jan 28, 2024, 6:34 PM
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https://twitter.com/mRNAdeaths/status/1751705344483451259

Amazing.

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Re: Don't.....trust.....them


Jan 28, 2024, 6:51 PM
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Yes, amazing that anyone would try to draw any conclusions from an obviously heavily edited video on the most trustworthy of all sources.

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Don't forget your booster.

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Jan 28, 2024, 6:59 PM
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Go for it.

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Imagine being that in love and hard-up for the drug companies. unreal***

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Jan 28, 2024, 7:25 PM
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If she's a hollerer, she'll be a screamer.
If she's a screamer, she'll get you arrested.


Re: Imagine being that in love and hard-up for the drug companies. unreal***


Jan 28, 2024, 7:29 PM
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Not in love with any company/industry but I don’t automatically assume they are up to something nefarious…I mean isn’t it MAGA that would do away with any sort of commercial/industrial oversight?

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Re: Don't forget your booster.

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Jan 28, 2024, 7:27 PM [ in reply to Don't forget your booster. ]
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Well, that’s just it right? Let people make their own decisions. If they (like you) choose to trust questionable sources and ‘studies’ then knock yourself out. I got the first three shots available but haven’t gotten any others…I do t regret it. I know folks who have taken all of them and others who haven’t taken any. To each their own.

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Re: Don't forget your booster.

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Jan 28, 2024, 7:46 PM
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Unfortunately your Marxist leftist friends weren't content to let everyone make their own decision. They wanted mandated vaccinations and anyone that didn't comply fired from their jobs, banned from travel, denied health care and even sent to concentration camps. But by all means continue with your delusion where MAGA types, who just didn't want anything forced on them, are the true bad guys. It's almost like you weren't even alive 2020-2021 to make such bizarre statements. But I do agree that people should be allowed to make their own decisions, Welcome to the evil right.

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Re: Don't forget your booster.

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Jan 28, 2024, 8:54 PM
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Buddy…the next leftist/Marxist you meet on this site…will be the first one. I don’t agree that anyone should have lost their job. I know a few who did and my company actually hired them.

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Boy, I bet that cost you a bunch for your masks.***


Jan 29, 2024, 10:23 PM
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Got Four Jabs and On Hold Unless Something Changes

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Jan 29, 2024, 7:18 AM [ in reply to Re: Don't forget your booster. ]
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...but as was said, it wasn't much of a choice for many people. People were belittled and others fired for their choice.

We really haven't had a good post mortem on how this country responded, but most people are making the same choice now in not taking further Covid immunizations with no consequences.

It was not a to each his own decision for many. It is now. Good.

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Why did U stop taking the vax, then?


Jan 29, 2024, 8:10 PM [ in reply to Re: Don't forget your booster. ]
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What factors induced you to stop believing the FDA / medical establishment’s recommendations to keep taking the COVID vaccines & boosters?

The government narrative didn’t change. The government never admitted to serious adverse events from any of the COVID vaccines.

Why did you stop taking them?

Clearly, some factor(s) influenced your decision to stop believing our government’s aggressive ‘vax up’ recommendations.

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Re: Why did U stop taking the vax, then?

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Jan 29, 2024, 8:21 PM
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The vaccine only confers about 3 months protection against serious illness.

The virus itself continues to mutate but fortunately if you’re healthy, it’s typically not a problem.

I’m not overweight, diabetic or immune compromised.

I only took the last jab 16 months ago as I was traveling out of the country to a place with poor medical care.

My main issue is that it just isn’t a particularly effective vaccine and is short lived.

I have zero regrets over the initial shots I took.

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Too much emphasis on efficacy; not enough on safety

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Jan 29, 2024, 9:48 PM
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Glad you didn’t suffer from any serious adverse events.

I started getting seizures of steadily increasing intensity and frequency after getting my second in the two shot sequence.

Got the second jab in mid/ late April 2021. Started getting small seizures during first half of May; I was not aware of them at all, but my wife observed that I was making ‘fish-out-of-water’ gulping motions. She kept asking me if I was having indigestion; I kept telling her “no.”

In early June, I had my first big seizure (I.e., one large enough for me to recognize). This was the first of three such big seizures. These seizures were of the loss of memory variety. In early July, after my third such seizure, I went to the emergency room of a reputable hospital; spent 2.5 days there. CT scans, also MRIs with & without contrast + X-rays of heart, lungs, and brain. Also EEG of brain. The hospital generalists couldn’t find anything, so (for billable services purposes), I was ‘diagnosed’ as having TIA’s, despite zero sign of arterial occlusions and fantastic blood numbers across the board. Got put on Lipitor.

Left the hospital and had at least three more big seizures. Got extremely lucky and got in to see a top notch neurologist. Did some more MRIs, which were difficult to interpret. Was fitted with a mobile EEG device for 3 days, it captured another seizure which matched the time stamp that I had for it.

(The seizures are under control via medicine.)

No one in my family, including extended family, has ever had seizures. Nor had I … that is, prior to my COVID 19 vaccine. Does this ‘prove’ that my seizures were caused by the vax? Of course not. However, I really started studying by looking for reports of adverse events that correlated more so to COVID vax than to COVID 19 cases (from the virus). Statistics tell their own story; myocarditis fatalities skyrocketed in 2021, whereas there was not anything close to the rise in myocarditis fatalities in 2020 (I.e., before the vax came out). Highly peculiar blood clots were showing up in people after the vax was launched.

All of this post, which I expect but a few people to read, is that we have not been paying enough attention to the (poor) safety data associated with the COVID 19 vaccines. To this day, I have not heard of any admissions from the FDA about their horrendous deficiencies in the stewardship of the COVID 19 vaccine approval and subsequent evaluations of the correlation between adverse events and vaccine quality. (Refer to my even longer response to Spooneye in another part of the e-mail string.

This is directed to you because you are not only a physician, but one who apparently possesses a curious and analytical mind.

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Warp Speed

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Jan 30, 2024, 8:42 AM
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This is the problem with putting out a vaccine outside of the normal protocol. The initial strain of COVID was more virulent than what is going around now but probably less infectious.Lots of people did die and were hospitalized. It was initially a scary situation, so I was thankful the vaccine was available.

By and large the vast majority of people who died were the elderly, obese, diabetic, people with COPD and the immunocompromised.

Instead, the focus was on pushing everyone including later on infants and young children to take the vaccine.

Some of the FDA and CDC recommendations later on made no sense to me.

Fauci was pushing a shotgun approach to COVID. I can understand early on when essentially little to nothing was known about this virus, but early on there was an approach to stifle all dissent which is the opposite of how scientists typically operate. Questioning dogma has always served us well.

I see no reason to continue to sell this "vaccine" to the vast majority of us.It does not prevent COVID, prevent transmission of COVID and the protection against serious illness or death it confers is very fleeting.

We certainly have the time now to fully delve into studying thoroughly the side effects and the true risk benefit analysis of various subsets of the population.

I was at my Internist for my annual physical earlier this month. He knew my wife had COVID this month and I never was symptomatic. I never tested as I saw no reason to.He asked me if I was going to take another COVID vaccine. I asked him why would I at this point.

My internist graduated literally first in his class, but he absolutely could not give me a cogent reason for me as a very healthy individual to take a vaccine that works a bit for a short while and has been associated with a host of adverse side effects including a higher risk for stroke.

He is a very ethical person and doesn't even administer the vaccine, so there is no monetary reason for him to push this although it was only a gentle nudge. I asked him would he recommend small kids get the vaccine and he said he wasn't encouraging his grand kids to do so. I couldn't follow his logic on any of it.

We need to step back and do a thorough analysis of what was done right, what was done wrong and thoroughly understand what the risk of the initial COVID strain was to the general public and to those at high risk. We need a thorough understanding of the side effect profile of this vaccine and have a better understanding of who most benefits from the vaccine and is it truly reasonable to have infants and kids repeatedly vaccinated with a vaccine produced at "warp speed."

We desperately need to know what worked, what didn't so that when the next pandemic occurs we are better prepared.

I'm glad you're doing better!!

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Re: Don't.....trust.....them

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Jan 29, 2024, 12:40 PM [ in reply to Re: Don't.....trust.....them ]
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Yes, amazing how you can't look around you and see all the sudden health issues in your circle since the vaxxes came out.

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Thanks for Operation Warp Speed, Trump!***


Jan 28, 2024, 8:04 PM
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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


Don't forget Trump's boi, Fauci.***


Jan 28, 2024, 8:30 PM
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drunk at the putt putt.


Somebody needs to check your TDS... Fauci was Dir. of NIAID since Jan. '84.***

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Jan 29, 2024, 9:23 AM
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Re: Thanks for Operation Warp Speed, Trump!***


Jan 28, 2024, 8:33 PM [ in reply to Thanks for Operation Warp Speed, Trump!*** ]
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spooneye® said:



MAGA attorney Spooneye

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Re: Thanks for Operation Warp Speed, Trump!***

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Jan 29, 2024, 12:46 PM [ in reply to Thanks for Operation Warp Speed, Trump!*** ]
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Operation warp speed was to push the Cabal to accelerate their plan. They would have kept us on lockdowns until all small businesses and most of the mid-size too, were dead.

Remeber it was safe to go to the big Cabal-owned stores like Walmart and Target with thousands of others but the small businesses were forced to remain closed.

The acceleration of the 2030 agenda made it obvious for the world to see the players and their agenda.

Enjoy the show

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Its fun to pretend***


Jan 29, 2024, 12:51 PM
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Was Davos just a skit...?***

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Jan 29, 2024, 5:17 PM
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Re: Its fun to pretend***


Jan 29, 2024, 10:28 PM [ in reply to Its fun to pretend*** ]
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I wish I was

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Adverse events from COVID vax lie at the feet of OBiden Handlers Admin.

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Jan 29, 2024, 9:11 PM [ in reply to Thanks for Operation Warp Speed, Trump!*** ]
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Dear spooneye®,

The leftists’ attempt to change the vax narrative from ‘anti-vax tardy are a danger to society and should be silenced for propagating disinformation’ to ‘Trump is to blame for the adverse vax effects’ isn’t fooling anyone. That ridiculous ‘defense’ is simply a reflection of their ever deepening political worries.

In 2020, the FDA waited until very shortly after the 2029 election to approve the first COVID 19;vaccine. The FDA reported that this delayed announcement was because they didn’t want to ‘interfere’ in the 2020 election. Clearly, the FDA was not a political ally of Trump.

Next, the public belatedly learned (in Sept 2023) that Moderna and Pfizer had both submitted ‘pilot scale (I.e., small vessel) manufacturing process’ quality vaccine during that late stage of vaccine testing, as overseen by the FDA, with respect to both efficacy AND safety testing.

Here is where it gets really bad, and this was ENTIRELY under the watch of the OBiden Handlers Administration:

To expedite the commercial launch of the first COVID 19 vax, both Pfizer and Moderna started making the vaccine in full scale (I.e., large vessel) manufacturing process equipment. By doing this, the quality of the vaccine was poorer, and not reflective of the quality of the vaccine that was used in clinical trials. Nevertheless, it was the poorer quality vaccine … stuff that WAS NOT ACTUALLY SUBJECTED TO THE RIGORS IF CLINICAL TRIALS … that was distributed to the American public.

Not surprisingly, adverse effects from the COVID 19 vaccine that was foisted on the public were not predictable.

Worse yet, the FDA (whether in a conspiracy with the OBiden Handlers Administration’s political braintrust, whether the FDA was solely responsible, or whether the FDA was simply grossly incompetent) either did not inquire with Pfizer & Moderna about (1) whether there were any changes in the process used to ramp up production vs the process used to make the vax samples that were used in the clinical trials -or- (2) whether process changes that Pfizer & Moderna admitted to deploying for mass production of the vaccines were going to also be subjected to the same clinical trial regimen that the ‘pilot scale process manufactured’ vaccine that had been used to get the approval.

(*). Remember, the first commercial rollout of the first COVID 19 vaccines were in ~ March 2021 … I.e., entirely within the oversight of the OBiden Handlers Ad inistration.

Even worse, when reports of serious adverse events had started to surface, instead of asking that the brakes be applied to the COVID 19 vax rollout, the OBiden Handlers Admin became authoritarian (I.e., coercive measures to get the public to keep taking the vaccine) and commenced with propagandistically divisive messaging (social shaming of those ‘evil’ people who had become reluctant to take an ‘emergency use authorization’ vaccine as ‘science deniers’ and ‘selfish spreaders of COVID 19’). This coercion and this harmful, socially divisive messaging from the government spread rapidly. Meanwhile, the OBiden government either (A) ignored the steadily increasing reports of serious adverse events from the vaccine itself -&/or- (B) did not think to make any inquiries to the FDA about possible causes of the growing number of cases of serious adverse events. To be fair, the OBiden Administration may have been too stupid / lazy to make such inquiries with the FDA.

Critically important. September 2023, a University of S.Carolina biochemist / molecular biologist reported to the SC legislature, in a testimony of ~ 35 minutes, about the difference in quality of ‘commercially distributed’ COVID 19 vaccine batches vs ‘pilot scale’ COVID 19 vaccines that were evaluated via the clinical trial process. Commercial scale COVID 19 vaccine batches were found to be contaminated with E.Coli DNA; pilot scale COVID 19 vaccine had no measurable DNA contaminant.

The punchline: Whether from incompetence, laziness, or (worst of all) malevolence, the OBiden Handlers Administration did not perform their duty to follow the events associated with the vaccine rollout and subsequent wide scale use. To blame their horrible lack of stewardship, the OBiden regime has decided to try to pin it all on Donald Trump.

(*). Only the gullibly uninformed and Democrat propagandists eat the ‘It’s Orange Man’s fault’ garbage. That OBiden Admin is attempting to shift the blame instead of owning up to their own terrible performance embodies the OBiden Admin. This is arguably the most dishonest administration in American history.

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Thank you for your letter.


Jan 30, 2024, 10:42 AM
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Let's take your claims one at a time.

In 2020, the FDA waited until very shortly after the 2020 election to approve the first COVID 19;vaccine. The FDA reported that this delayed announcement was because they didn’t want to ‘interfere’ in the 2020 election.

Show where you learned that the FDA did this. This is news to me and I'd like to learn about it if it's true.

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
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Re: Thank you for your letter.


Jan 30, 2024, 5:56 PM
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No? Wasn't actually true? Oh well.

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
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One step ahead of ya murph, I only trust Twitter or Trump***

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Jan 28, 2024, 8:39 PM
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What does Twitter say?***

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Jan 28, 2024, 8:41 PM
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Re: What does Twitter say?***

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Jan 28, 2024, 8:50 PM
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It agrees with you, I'm on your side.

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Gawd dang, man. I'm gonna go yell at a nurse now.


Jan 29, 2024, 7:53 AM
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I'll let everyone in the Lounge know how it goes.

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LOL

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Jan 29, 2024, 8:17 AM
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Go read the story again.

I didn't yell at anyone. But this fits your MO well.

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Re: LOL

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Jan 29, 2024, 8:28 AM
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Everyone remembers it clearly. You got smug with a nurse because she asked you to wear a mask per policy, and you threw out in her face that you went to school with the president of the hospital. Then you posted it on the Lunge and thought you'd get a lot of butt taps and "atta boys," and you got absolutely nuked for it.

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Why don't you read

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Jan 29, 2024, 8:46 AM
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it again, then consider how badly you remember what I actually wrote.

Then use this imposition of reality to temper your penchant for editing people's actual positions in favor of building strawmen to rage against.

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It's just Catahuahua's SOP.***

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Jan 29, 2024, 9:27 AM
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If I'm not mistaken...


Jan 29, 2024, 10:49 AM [ in reply to Why don't you read ]
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I think the people on the Lunge RA'ed it into quarantine oblivion, which honestly, is probably where such hot steaming trash belongs.

"Oooo, look at me, I don't wear a mask because I went to third grade with the president of the hospital!"

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RAd, really?

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Jan 29, 2024, 12:34 PM
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That's perfect.

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Don't worry, I didn't.

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Jan 29, 2024, 1:48 PM
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I wish it had stayed on there for future mockery. I mean, you claimed you didn't delete it so that's the only explanation.

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Not surprising

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Jan 29, 2024, 12:46 PM
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in their teeny tiny minds they thought 'this vaccine works for everyone and we MUST make everyone take it immediately" which at that point any action taken towards said objective is okay.

Not kidding.

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