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TNET: Swinney on perspective and his program: "Sometimes the bandwagon can get a little too full"
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Preach it Dabo!
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Yes, there's a difference in the "ROY bus" and the "bandwagon"!
Go Tigers AND stay well Clemson Nation!
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Re: Preach it Dabo!
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Oct 17, 2023, 8:39 AM
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You bet....We have The Billy Graham of College Football...Dabo Knows...Trust in The Process
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Re: Preach it Dabo!
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Agree! Nobody would be better than Dabo at Clemson, including Saban.
Some of the folks at Texas A&M want Jimbo fired, but he has an $80 Million buyout.
Not happy with two losses, but we have a very good team, that could be great by eliminating mistakes.
Go Tigers, Beat Miami!
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Re: Preach it Dabo!
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Oct 17, 2023, 11:07 AM
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His contract requires him to be one of the top paid coaches each year but he’s not required to have one of the top teams each year?
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yawn same tired bs from dabo
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cry about the fans who expect a guy getting paid his salary to win games and not be out of playoff contention before september ends.
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yawn; same tired bs from the losers on TNET
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stupid is as stupid does
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Re: yawn; same tired bs from the losers on TNET
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yawn, it’s so called fans like you that CDS may be referring to. Did you really listen to what he said on Monday night? “We’re not immune to losing.” I believe there will be another great run in the near future. He doesn’t spew BS. The man tells it intentionally. Go Tigers.
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If it's so "tiring", why listen to him?
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Change the channel. Why keep putting yourself in misery day after day?
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Re: yawn same tired bs from dabo
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Oct 16, 2023, 10:27 PM
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Would you take playoff appearances every 3 years with 10+ win seasons between appearances or would you rather have 1 Natty an all time offense and then have to wait 11 years before another appearance?
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Re: yawn same tired bs from dabo
Oct 17, 2023, 7:01 AM
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I'll take option C for $500, Pat. A Natty every 3 years
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Re: yawn same tired bs from dabo
Oct 19, 2023, 9:36 AM
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You’ll be mighty disappointed if you choose that one.
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Re: yawn same tired bs from dabo
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cry about the fans who expect a guy getting paid his salary to win games and not be out of playoff contention before september ends.
You are welcome to get off the bus at the next stop.....
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Re: yawn same tired bs from dabo
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Oct 17, 2023, 8:42 AM
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Who would you hire with that same salary that would meet your expectations?
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Being one of the highest paid coaches
Oct 17, 2023, 11:51 AM
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doesn't entitle you to believe he's supposed to be in the top 2-3 every year, every week.
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Re: yawn same tired bs from dabo
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Oct 17, 2023, 3:47 PM
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You think you can do better? Why aren't you Coaching?
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lol @ blaming fans
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No one thinks losing a game here and there means we’re losers.
Getting curbstomped by ND and UT, losing to Duke and USC, looking unprepared, no kicker but tons of family friends on scholarship, squeaking by WF, players yelling at coaches, OLs pulling and running into each other, developing 5 stars into 2 stars, game management clown show and paying a ### ton of $$$ for it only to be berated by the coach; makes us losers.
Just win the games you are supposed to win and don’t embarrass us against solid teams; that is all that I ask as a fan.
p.s. You liked all those bandwagon fans waiting in Clemson for you to return with trophies; cause you talked for like 2 fkn hrs.
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its the same tired gimmick from him
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dude has gotten fat and lazy. also add whiny to it as well
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what did you all do? look up the word "goober"
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and then spend weeks on end perfecting the deer-in-the-headlights stupidity?
Go be goobers in Columbia.....
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you are exactly who dabo is trying to gaslight***
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Re: you are exactly who dabo is trying to gaslight***
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He sounds a lot like Dabo!
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gaslight - now that's a right big word for Goobers
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did you hear it on CNN last night or get it off today's toilet paper?
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Re: gaslight - now that's a right big word for Goobers
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“I’m old and yell a lot and remember the days of Hatfield and West and being grateful to go to the Tangerine Bowl….and you bandwagon coot fans are ungrateful and hate Dabo and watch CNN and are Goober Communists!!!”
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no... I'm old and more mature acting than you...
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by a long shot.
Has nothing to do with the Tangerine Bowl or Hatfield.
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you would know all about licking while on your knees***
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My apologies.
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I would never have poked fun at you had I known you were two standard deviations below the average.
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yeah, you'd best challenge someone else's intellect, bubba
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Oct 16, 2023, 11:04 PM
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you ain't got the weight to carry that here.
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I thought I just said that.
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eom
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no, you just pissed your leg hoping that someone wouldn't
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call your little boy attitude out. But hey, you keep acting like you're something special... or even something at all.
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Im sure that's what just happened here.
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Eom
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good, glad we're agreed, pumpkin***
Oct 17, 2023, 1:31 AM
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Re: good, glad we're agreed, pumpkin***
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OH THE HUMANITY. LMAO
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Re: its the same tired gimmick from him
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dude has gotten fat and lazy. also add whiny to it as well
Wow you are consistent.. lmbo
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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All I know is talk is cheap. He’ll be judged on wins and losses as a HC at the end of the season. Lose 4-5 games this year, he might find out he has some bandwagon fans that consistently cut big checks to his employer.
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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No one thinks losing a game here and there means we’re losers.
Getting curbstomped by ND and UT, losing to Duke and USC, looking unprepared, no kicker but tons of family friends on scholarship, squeaking by WF, players yelling at coaches, OLs pulling and running into each other, developing 5 stars into 2 stars, game management clown show and paying a ### ton of $$$ for it only to be berated by the coach; makes us losers.
Just win the games you are supposed to win and don’t embarrass us against solid teams; that is all that I ask as a fan.
p.s. You liked all those bandwagon fans waiting in Clemson for you to return with trophies; cause you talked for like 2 fkn hrs.
^^^^^THIS^^^^^^
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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You are right keowee.
I personally like the old Dabo. The one last decade that sounded more like Saban than Willie muscoot. The one that was dissatisfied with losing. The one that had a D coordinator that got ticked off if we gave up leverage and a red zone TD even when we won 51-10. The one that said we have work to do in order to beat the next opponent when dw4 threw a couple interceptions and we only won 34-3. The one that got ticked off because we only scored 13 against a really good auburn team first game and was unhappy with the game being close.
Now we byog and dance when we beat a pathetic weak florist 17-12. Now we rave about a glorious 31-14 win over cuse because we had one 50 yard TD pass. The old Dabo would have been ticked off that we had to punt 6 times to cuse. Now we get excited when we have to punt so we can see how good he is. Obviously I've been a 73 year bandwagon fan.
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When did we play Southern Cal***
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
Oct 17, 2023, 7:08 AM
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"tons of family friends on scholarship"
Who? Show us the list.
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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Trent Pearman - His only other offer was UAB
Cole Turner - University of Buffalo was his only other offer
Not on scholarship, but getting more playing time than others on Scholarship:
Hamp Greene - no offers 5'9 180 lbs.
Clay Swinney - It's not necessary to give details here
Then there's the list of guys that make you wonder:
-Jaheim Lawson - 3 star with offers from Syracuse, GT and non power 5s. Brother played at Clemson and went to Daniel
-Kobe McCloud - 3 star with 0 power 5 offers. Brother played at Clemson.
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
Oct 17, 2023, 12:37 PM
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Thumbs up for doing your homework.
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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That just about covers what has happened since the 2020 season.
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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Agreed. A lot of the problems are associated with position coaching or lack there of. For another run to happen the multi year issues with the O-line have to be fixed. We have gotten away with having a mediocre offensive line because two of our quarterbacks were phenomenal (2015-2020) and we had incredible wide receivers. Problems with our O-line start with technique which hasn’t improved in 10 years. Low man wins. Our O-line stands straight up when they try to run block. Our pass protection is fairly good with poor communication being the main culprit along with RBs not helping. I really think Dabo needs to go outside the Clemson family and find a phenomenal O-line coach.
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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Geez Keowee, if you put on your orange colored glasses you won’t be confused by the facts. It’s the fans fault for having higher expectations. 3rd or 4th in the ACC and losing to USuck ..what’s the big deal ?
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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I guess that I am not concerned about the money. Dabo has made Clemson more money than he will ever get from it. However, I do not like him making comments about fans that are not satisfied with the way the last few seasons have gone. I should hope that he is not satisfied with them as much as it seems.
I'm not upset over the last 3 years have gone, as long as he continues to change things looking for the right recipe again. Although I think Streeter could have developed into a quality OC, I was happy to see Dabo try to jump start things with Riley. It hasn't gone as well as I hoped but most things take more time than I want to give them.
To condense it down, I wish Dabo would avoid voicing his frustrations with others at times, and empathize with them a little more. There have been times that he made comments about players entering the portal, and a lot of times that he made comments about fans that had opinions contrary to his where I thought that he should have shown more understanding or just said nothing.
I am part of what I think is a large group of fans, that fully support Dabo and unless something unforeseeable happens we always will. However, that does not mean that we are lemmings and agree with every decision that he makes. When we voice a disagreement, we are not being "coots" or bandwagon fans and most don't think that he should just change to our opinion. We voice those opinions because we think he should think about a particular decision a little bit more. If he still comes to the same conclusion, then he is better informed to make it.
To say that he doesn't hear anything that the masses say, I think would ignore the Riley hire. I do not think that change happens without the loudly voiced opinion that the program needed new blood. Maybe I am wrong, but I am a diehard Clemson fan who does wish that Dabo would do some things differently. However, I know which hand fills up first, and will support him regardless.
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Re: lol @ blaming fans
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Bareftn; he was asked a question and he gave his opinion and honest answer. He doesn’t mince his words. He wasn’t being ugly or combative. Just answered the question and people got their drawers pulled up too tight you know where.
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Preach It Dabo
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I see a couple above are topo stupid to realize, THEY ARE the ones Dabo's talking about. He didn't BLAME you ignorant POS, he just showed YOU DON'T MATTER LOL
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Re: Preach It Dabo
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Oct 16, 2023, 9:59 PM
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calm down it isnt that serious
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i dont care what dabo says
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ill continue to call out his horrible coach hiring decisions and stupid approach to the portal. he gets paid top dollar to win ball games. the quality of the program has dropped off massive since the national title win in 2018.
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Ridiculous statement
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This is pretty manipulative from Swinney here. No one is calling for him to be fired or a loser if the team is not undefeated. We're simply pointing out that he has underdelivered these past few seasons for a coach with the second highest salary in CFB. This is due to directly to the decisions he's made.
I'm sure many on here will defend this dishonest statement though.
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"undelivered": that's the "Ridiculous statement"***
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so being picked to win the conference
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and possibly making the playoffs. to basically needing a miracle to get into the conference title game and out of playoff contention before october isnt udnerdelivering? if this isnt underdelivering what would you call it?
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you do understand that he's won 8 of the last 9
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and that this year is not over with, right?
stupid is as stupid does....
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Re: "undelivered": that's the "Ridiculous statement"***
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The 2nd highest paid coach in all of college football missing the playoffs every year since 2020 is most certainly not delivering.
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you should show more respect for Mrs. Swinney than that
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much more, friend.
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Re: Ridiculous statement
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Come on everybody let’s not worry about Wins or losses. As long as everybody gets to play and have a good time and we win six games to go to a bowl what’s the big deal? At least we’re not six and six or five and seven…. hey, wait a minute I heard that before!
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I used to wonder about this
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But this settles it. Dabo is definitely on TNet.
Hey Coach!
Go Tigers!
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Never, ever .
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A good idea to call out the fan base. Slippery slope. You’ve got to ignore that.
I’m a big supporter of Dabo, but there are tweaks that need to happen. And he knows this that’s why you have ALREADY seen subtle changes will see more coming down the pipe. DABO has it covered. But….He should do what Brent Venables always suggests….less is more.
Control what you can control. Ignore the rest.
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We didnt lose a game here or there.
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We were just 1-4 in its last 5 games against P5 opponents a few weeks ago.
I love you Dabo but I HATE when you make these comments.
Stay humble and just say we gotta keep working till we get back to the mountain top. There’s no need to put down your own fan base.
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Give'em hail Dabo!
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most of the numbskulls think they have the right to get on a public board and say anything they want, true or not, but then assert that they can't be challenged.
I can't wait until this guy retires, and leaves the blowhards hanging like so much meat ready to be butchered.
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Re: Give'em hail Dabo!
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I don't know about can't wait until CDS retires, but I get your point. These a55holes have memories shorter than my ######. And that's miniscule. Before him, our program was generally speaking, a joke. Now these diklovers wanna upend the apple cart for sticking by Big Stinko and hiring a few of our players. I very much disliked #5 and wanted him to transfer long before he did. Just as I had no faith in Kelly Bryant, and wanted him to transfer. They both were not all in and their reactions were evidence of that fact. These talking chucklenuts are NOT all in as evidenced by their words. F the lot of them
Be on your way to Mizz or OSU. Losers. Go Paws!!!
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Re: Give'em hail Dabo!
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Re: Give'em hail Dabo!
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They’ve become a cult
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The Dabo cult is real.***
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So is the anti-Dabo cult***
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Stop it, there's not an Anti-Dabo cult***
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I would say there's a decent amount of fans
Oct 16, 2023, 11:34 PM
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who are ready to jump on his every word now. He is not saying anything that different than he has been. he said something similar last year as well.
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You understand his statements land better when we aren't
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out of the Playoffs in September right?
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why would any fool believe we were odds' on to make the
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playoffs when we started a QB with 1 career start in the 1st game of the year at a team that went 9-4 previously?
even TL16 didn't do that....
This is the problem: you all think you're sane, but you ain't....
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Trevor never missed the playoffs...who are you referring to?***
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Trevor didn't win the first few games of his freshman year
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he even had to have Jelly Bean Bryant bail him out down in College Station.
Who was there to bail out CK2?
Check your GD facts moron.
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Trevor never lost a game in the regular season...He only
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Trevor had to be carried by Kelly Bean Bryant for the
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first few games of his career. Fact, pumpkin.
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Except last year when he said it they were still ranked ... ***
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and had a FG kicker.
and a shot at a ACC title.
and the DV pretzels were saltier.
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the only ridiculous ones
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are the ones denigrating a Hall of Fame Coach. Total POS, that's what you are.
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Re: Stop it, there's not an Anti-Dabo cult***
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You spend half your time on this board circle jerking with their ####### ringleader. He literally has Dabo in a Karen whig mocking him relentlessly and you can’t hit the TU button fast enough.
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You spend most of your time here going through my post
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history DVing posts I made months ago in some sad effort to tank my pulse...All it's done is raise your TD% from 77% to 95%...You basically come here to TD my posts and you're whining about MY voting behavior? Gooooooood Lord...Talk about not hitting the button fast enough
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Re: You spend most of your time here going through my post
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It’s almost like there is no restriction on the percentage of TUs versus TDs. Unlike, say, doxxing.
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I doxxed no one, but go on TDing the posts I made months ago
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You can see it really had an effect on me
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Re: I doxxed no one, but go on TDing the posts I made months ago
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Lol. You don’t think you doxxed anyone because you struggle with words and their meanings.
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I know upper deck and top deck mean the same thing, sadly
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you didn't...But you do now...you do now
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Re: Give'em hail Dabo!
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Clemson hasn’t always been a fixture in CFP, and currently aren’t, but we have not been a joke, ### hat. The upside to Dabo’s retirement will be the end of you groupies.
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yep, we'll leave with Dabo and let you little
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Beattchers and Moaners revel in your arrogant unhappiness.
What a swell group you are... and will be, no doubt. Toodles, pumpkin...
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Good, please do...By all means***
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absolutely will do - with pleasure***
Oct 17, 2023, 12:02 AM
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By then...Look forward to the over emotional I Quit post***
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Re: yep, we'll leave with Dabo and let you little
Oct 16, 2023, 11:52 PM
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I’ll never leave Clemson for 1 dude. Never. Maybe that’s the difference between you and some of the fans you are arguing with. Some go overboard too fast, but that statement is inexcusable Mike.
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I won't be leaving for Dabo - that's ridiculous
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Just typical Judge Keller BS.
I'll be leaving because of all the truly scheatty human beings who show up to be bandwagoneers. I have seen other programs after iconic Coaches leave and it's never a pretty sight - I was here when Danny was let go.
I personally just don't want to be around their arrogance and selfishness anymore.
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Re: yep, we'll leave with Dabo and let you little
Oct 17, 2023, 8:40 AM
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Not surprising that you’d leave when Dabo retires. I’m sure you dream of selling plastic roses for Dabo someday.
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see thats the issue though
Oct 16, 2023, 10:57 PM
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we arent what we were int he west and bowden years though. so its hard to take anyone serious who always throws that up when defending the job dabo has done the past four years. when you win games and championships the expectations tend to rise. i do not expect to be int eh bowden years after the success we had recently.
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You love Dabo so much you want him to leave to punish
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people who hurt your feelings but you're not in a cult?
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want to leave and can't wait until he retires
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are two different things. Manipulate much moron?
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Do you think changing leave to retire makes you come off any
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better?
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do you even read what you write - completely nonsensical
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if you think your provocative BS is witty or even intelligent, you'd do well to rethink.
trying to antagonize just makes you look foolish. Keller's a moron, certifiable. You're closing in rapidly.
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Re: do you even read what you write - completely nonsensical
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I think CM Shack is just an angrier version of Cobbox. They love the fact that Clemson basketball is mediocre enough they can curry favor within that community. But they have both watched new money pass them by in football, where the staff simply don’t have the time to glad-hand and pose for selfies with everybody that wants them to. Sad, self-hating Clemson fans.
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What kind of fairy tale is that? Not a shred of it is true
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Not a shred...New money has passed me by so now I'm a sad self hating Clemson fan? Saddest make believe story ever...From a guy who thinks the Upper Deck and the Top Deck are two separate areas...Talk about getting passed by
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Good Ole Gas Lighting Dabo
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Dabo has surrounded himself with “yes” people and knows he’s set with his contract and paycheck. Everyone in Clemson treats him like he’s Jesus Christ.
Yes, Dabo, we will lower our expectations like you expect us to do. How dare us fans have high expectations for this team, expecting a win vs Duke, expecting to beat a bad Wake team into the ground, or make another run for the ACC Championship. We will continue to pay a small fortune for tickets, parking, hotels, and cheer on and be happy with whatever crap sandwich is served to us on Saturdays. Because you said so Dabo, because gosh darn it, this is a “great group of kids”.
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When did Jesus Christ ever lower people's expectations?***
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When He didn't lead a rebellion against Roman occupation.***
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exactly - and all the idiots who didn't know
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their Biblical History, nor who he was in reality, were disappointed. Only them.
Everyone else is quite happy with who he is and what he did.
Go stay on your Left-wing-nut Board, Razz - you're a fish out water here, and it won't be pretty.
Razzmatazz
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Sometimes Death Valley can get a little full, too.
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Lamest take I think Ive ever heard from a HC.
Much less one gettin' paid $230,000/week to be only a little less inept of late than Jimbo Fisher, who at a paltry $175,000/week is a STEAL by comparison.
At least Jimbo can be counted on to field a FG kicker who can actually kick FGs. It's not much, but it's somethin.
But whatever.
Maybe if they keep losing as he suggests they should, enough of them bandwagoners paying thousands (or tens of thousands) a year to watch games in person'll wake up and realize they're not worthy of breathing Dabo's air and are better off watching from home for free.
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So basically, if youre upset about underachieving three years straight
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That’s how it sounds. Hopefully he didn’t mean it that way.
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I think he was riffing on Jefferson.
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And if, say, the "now and then" part ends with him being $100M richer, well, all the better.
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George Jefferson?***
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Feels like apples/oranges
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I mean, he doesnt have a very demanding fanbase to begin with, but I doubt he'd be obtuse enough to call them out as bandwagoners if they were demanding.
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Dabo clearly reads tnet..
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Seeing all the fans turning on the program..
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Re: Dabo clearly reads tnet..
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I hate to say this but, I think bv did alot as an assistant and TE was good enough. Dabo handled recruiting and the media. It was a good formula. Now Dabo does it all and he just can't. Maybe no one can? Maybe the jobs just to big.
Just read the ESPN article on the season DJ is having. About the system he is playing in. Maybe dabo needs to look in the mirror.
Idk
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Well if the job is too big
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Let us not forget that when DJ was here, he continued that
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Clemson poised to be great
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Dabo: Fans have expectations that are too high.
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Also Dabo at beginning of this season: "These seniors are on the clock to win a national championship. Since 2013 Every class has won a national championship. Why can't we go 15 for 15?"
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Re: Dabo: Fans have expectations that are too high.
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Can we just beat the Gamecocks and have a pizza party? I will pay for it.
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I find this thread to be boring and very revealing
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Ungrateful
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Remember Kevin Steele?
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After winning the ACC in 2022, Dabo was so satisfied...
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Oct 17, 2023, 9:06 AM
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he fired Brandon Streeter.
But thanks, coot.
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He fired Streeter
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Oct 17, 2023, 9:54 AM
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Because he needed a scapegoat. And the offense looks no different than the past 3 years.
He fired Steele because he wanted the best defense in the country. So he hired Brent Venables and let him coach.
Big difference
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No one needs a scapegoat for winning a Conf. Championship...
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Oct 17, 2023, 10:10 AM
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Dabo decided the team needed to get better offensively so he went and hired the Broyles' Award winner.
He certainly didn't have to spend ~1.75mil+ to replace a scapegoat. That's patently stupid, but thanks again, coot.
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From the perspective of someone who wasted
Oct 17, 2023, 1:11 PM
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Mid 4 figures to take the family to that dumpster fire in Miami, he needed a scapegoat.
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No, Obed, he didn't.***
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Oct 17, 2023, 1:17 PM
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Re: Remember Kevin Steele?
Oct 17, 2023, 9:19 AM
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Dabo’s salary is less that 10% of the CU athletic budget. An annual revenue number that has increased 250% during his tenure. That’s nearly half a billion over his tenure. And that’s purely AD revenue. That has nothing to do with the billions in capital investment that have occurred as a direct result of his success or the long term benefits that the increased academic stature of the University, achieved through selectivity and enabled by the massive increase in applications, will yield in perpetuity. Lest you think that 250% increase is inline with general growth in college football, Alabama who is inarguably the most successful program over that same period only has revenue growth of 160%. He isn’t paid to win every game. He is being paid for the overwhelming and unprecedented value he has created for this University.
Total ACC revenue has only grown 100% over the same period. Of which, a sizeable portion is directly attributable to Clemson’s success.
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Re: Remember Kevin Steele?
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You realize he fired Streeter after winning the ACC, right?
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No, he didn't.***
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Oct 17, 2023, 10:12 AM
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Re: No, he didn't.***
Oct 17, 2023, 10:47 AM
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Historically has any team stayed on top every year? Statistically, it’s not going to happen. We are everyone’s superbowl and that doesn’t help matters either
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I'll catch multiple TD's from the 65+ yr old homers...
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Oct 17, 2023, 10:58 AM
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....but with a 10-mil-per-year contract, CDS has about 1 more year to cut his philosophical BS and hire coaches that can actually coach before the noise gets too loud and the fans start calling for new blood...
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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Pi ssing off you CDS nut-goblers is too easy.
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Oct 17, 2023, 11:13 AM
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Any more questions?
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Peeve me off? No, I love stupid people, you do all the work.***
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That photo.
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Oct 17, 2023, 12:32 PM
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I am SO tired of Dabo acting like he sits at the right hand of God. Claiming that he created this program “in the name, image and likeness of God.” He is, to use one of Dolt 45’s favorite words, sanctimonious…like every other idiot evangelical out there. I miss Danny Ford - he’s a good man who never claimed to be anything other than a football coach who had the best interests of his players at heart.
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Re: TNET: Dabo is best coach Clemson has ever had, ...but
Oct 17, 2023, 4:27 PM
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I wished he hadn't talked National Championship prior to the season much less than playing for a conference title. Also talked up players that have not performed yet and mentioned 10 t 11 guys that could be starters on the offensive line. If this was the way to get the guys to play to their potential it hasn't worked. Might have been better to poor mouth and tell more truth about how guys need to improve and that means the coaching staff and the non-productive plays such as throwing horizontal and not throwing vertical. May be more hurdles not crossed but we will see. Definitely see more hope of winning some games as feeling confident to win more. Whichever way it falls Go Tigers.
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Silence in many situations is a virtue.
Oct 18, 2023, 5:59 PM
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like this one...
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