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I think I am done with Wes too.
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I think I am done with Wes too.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:18 PM
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Horrible horrible day today when we are missing just a few players.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:19 PM
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more than a few

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Hes missing 3 future NFL players. Got to cut him some slack.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:19 PM
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Nmmmmmmmmmmm

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Good coaching accounts for that.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:20 PM
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Three TOs today or Kentucky would have 50 points.

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Re: Good coaching accounts for that.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:53 PM
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Who caused the turnovers you idiot? It wasn't our offense or special teams

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Well turnovers for most part are a random occurrence...

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Dec 30, 2023, 4:15 AM
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and cannot intentionally forced with any success regardless how good a defense may be. Rarely if ever does an NFL Defense lead the league in TOs in consecutive seasons, but a Defense leading the league in TOs for that single season will appear much better than in actuality and tend to crash hard the next season because they cant replicate, create or force the turnovers that came their way in the prior season.

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NFL?***


Dec 30, 2023, 7:30 AM
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Re: Well turnovers for most part are a random occurrence...

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Dec 30, 2023, 8:04 AM [ in reply to Well turnovers for most part are a random occurrence... ]
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Lunacy. The defense as great again this year all around. Without the defense we win 5 games maybe.

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Dec 30, 2023, 3:12 PM [ in reply to Re: Good coaching accounts for that. ]
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you’re not wrong but can we chill with the insults? We’re all tigers here (well, most of us)

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:55 PM [ in reply to Good coaching accounts for that. ]
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That's what KY is saying about us too.

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Re: Good coaching accounts for that.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:55 PM [ in reply to Good coaching accounts for that. ]
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but they didn't...defense caused 4 turnovers

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The only one that we MAY NOT HAVE forced was the last one....***

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:05 AM
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Good coaching did account for that.***

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Dec 30, 2023, 4:09 AM [ in reply to Good coaching accounts for that. ]
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Re: Good coaching accounts for that.

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Dec 30, 2023, 7:45 AM [ in reply to Good coaching accounts for that. ]
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Turnovers are caused by good defense and are recorded statistics that play a part in defining success on team and individual levels.

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Turnover causation is a result of good coaching and conditioning.***


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Dec 29, 2023, 3:20 PM
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Missing your main guy that calls out the plays in trotter.

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Rumor is that he's going to ATM***

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:20 PM
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Re: Rumor is that he's going to ATM***


Dec 30, 2023, 8:05 AM
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Rumor is Swinney is going there too to be the wide receiver coach.

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Find another team to cheer for***

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LOL.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:22 PM
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That all you got?

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Yep, be positive and be a true Clemson man

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:23 PM
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And stop being all “this sucks and we suck and our coaches suck”

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Didnt say suck, not one time.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:49 PM
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But thanks for playing.

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Im done with Wes


Dec 29, 2023, 3:54 PM
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Meaning He’s not Clemson caliber and thus in your eyes sucks


But hey 4 turnovers is nothing to sniff at

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Its amazing how overly sensitive some people are.***

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Dec 30, 2023, 7:27 AM [ in reply to Didnt say suck, not one time. ]
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Re: Its amazing how overly ironic some people can be******

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She has to know how much of a hypocrite she is.

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Dec 30, 2023, 3:23 PM
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She just HAS to realize it.

I picture her cackling with joy when she makes these troll’s posts.

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:05 AM [ in reply to Its amazing how overly sensitive some people are.*** ]
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It’s amazing how pessimistic you always seem to be. Stick to Brownell homerism on the basketball board because you bring nothing to to the football board. You sound like a miserable person.

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Pot meet kettle***

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Dec 30, 2023, 10:15 AM [ in reply to Its amazing how overly sensitive some people are.*** ]
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Dec 29, 2023, 3:24 PM
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Trotter
Wiggins
Makuba


Thats enormous.

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Wiggins yes.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:50 PM
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But no excuse for being this bad in the secondary with him and Mukuba out.

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Re: Wiggins yes.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:53 PM
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Lewis was not ready and was a liability today. But played better in the second half. We had some crazy busts that we need to learn from.

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Sheridian Jones, Wiggins, Trotter, Mukuba, Ruke. At one point 5 Freshmen

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:42 AM [ in reply to Wiggins yes. ]
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But no excuse for being this bad in the secondary with him and Mukuba out.


I recall at critical times in the game seeing; Woods, Barnes(secondary), Terrell(secondary), Lewis(secondary), Parker and Kobe McCloud all in the game.

5 true freshmen and a RS. Against a veteran QB who had weeks to prep for you. I think the defense played well despite having all that youth on display. It will serve the Tigers well moving forward.

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Re: Sheridian Jones, Wiggins, Trotter, Mukuba, Ruke. At one point 5 Freshmen

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:07 AM
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Folks don’t have a clue. Experience is needed and there was not a lot of it in some positions.

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:47 AM [ in reply to Wiggins yes. ]
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You said it was coaching. It was not. We gave up 21 points on a lick return (Special Teams, not defense) and two TD's on blown coverages ..... not coaching mistakes. Young players will make those types of mistakes. With Mukuba, Wiggins, and trotter, I'm betting we don't make those mistakes.

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Dec 29, 2023, 4:18 PM [ in reply to Re: I think I am done with Wes too. ]
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And Ruke who will be drafted.. it was missed assignments and busted coverage by young dbacks.. hard to blame Wes

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Dec 29, 2023, 4:22 PM [ in reply to Re: I think I am done with Wes too. ]
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If Trotter, Wiggins and Mukuba(sp?) would have stuck it out. Kentucky would have score maybe 21 points.

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Dec 30, 2023, 4:10 AM [ in reply to Re: I think I am done with Wes too. ]
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And Ruke. Anybody who doesn't think their absences made a huge difference, hasn't been paying attention.

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:50 AM
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Yep ..... probably good for at least one sack and several QB hurries!

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:52 PM
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Bend don't break. How about Lewis sealing the deal at the end of the game.

Enjoying today's win. Doesn't mean we don't have things to fix next year but thoroughly enjoying the crow eating to end the game by a lot on here.

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Youre right and I will.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:55 PM
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If anything else, we got good film to improve on.

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:52 PM
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I’m sure the program appreciates your input.😂

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I know you are kidding

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Dec 29, 2023, 3:54 PM
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and when looking at this objectively understand the personnel challenges we had.

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Anyone can coach an all star cast.


Dec 29, 2023, 3:58 PM
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I’ve been on the fence with him.

Without the 4 TOs, we may have been blown-out today. That’s not completely on Wes but he was out coached today, no doubt.

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Dec 29, 2023, 4:21 PM
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Good thing the TOs accidentally happened.

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Actually they do for the most part****


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Dec 30, 2023, 10:09 AM
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I’m guessing you’ve never played football.

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I can assure you that was not the case.***

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Dec 30, 2023, 3:34 AM [ in reply to Anyone can coach an all star cast. ]
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Dec 29, 2023, 3:54 PM
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Bye bye

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Dec 29, 2023, 4:00 PM
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Are you a toddler? lol.

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:13 AM
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On the fence. Players love the guy and for the most part his defenses have been very good. Some can’t get past the fact that his name is not Venables. Some need to remember we seen a few shizz shows with him as DC as well, and God forbid if more teams would have signaled in plays like OSU did against us in our last matchup. Our defense stood around with their hands up in the air because Venables was struggling making the calls.

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Dec 29, 2023, 4:13 PM
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Stupid stupid take. Not unusual though

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Nov 7, 2014, 10:49 AM
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I think I saw them run a kickoff to the house. Just stop it!

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Dec 30, 2023, 6:54 AM
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Take away ALL Turnovers this season, lost and gained, we may have lost the bowl game but I think we come out +2 wins! +3 if player turnover is included.

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So

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Dec 30, 2023, 7:32 AM
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Is this an announcement that you are firing him?

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Dec 30, 2023, 7:32 AM
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If Cade was any good at qb he would have put up at least 17 more points off those turnovers the defense forced. If I recall they had several 3 and outs and then got nothing to show for it. The offense is the issue. If they do their job and score more then the defense wouldn't be on the field longer than the offense. Some of you really need to take a long look at your knowledge of sports because posting this crap makes you look like an incompetent moron.

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:14 AM
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Yea you are right get to studying. 8-8 in a game winning drive with less than stellar wideouts.

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Goodwin is The MAN.


Dec 30, 2023, 7:33 AM
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He’s getting better every year!

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Dec 30, 2023, 8:02 AM
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We were missing great players. They would have made a difference. Quit whining and enjoy the win. The defense was the reason we won the game no matter how bad those two pass plays were.

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Well


Dec 30, 2023, 8:04 AM
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You don’t do the hiring and firing

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Dec 30, 2023, 8:09 AM
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I don’t know anything about Kentucky football, but just maybe their coaches spent their month coming up with new stuff that Wes wasn’t expecting. Who would you replace him with?

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Dec 30, 2023, 8:14 AM
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You usually have decent takes....this is not one of them

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You like sprinkles

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Dec 30, 2023, 8:51 AM
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Wes says he’s done with cry babies like you as well!!!

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:03 AM
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Horrible horrible day today when we are missing just a few players.


Are you joking? I hope so. Trotter out is huge. New faces in the secondary against a 5th year QB.
Wes stats this season were very good, but I think you are just messing with us.

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:09 AM
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Go away man—-Wes has done a great job

These bowl games are now winter spring games—-you definitely know nothing about football

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:10 AM
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Thank God all mighty that CDS would never listen to you. Wes fielded the 5th ranked defense this season. You clearly must not grasp football very well. Our defense was phenomenal

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Its bizarre, isnt it?

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Dec 30, 2023, 3:28 PM
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One of the best defenses in the country and we have soft as Charmin whiners wanting to fire the DC.

Just pathetic.

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:39 AM
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I think Wes did a great job this year. Last year he was just okay, but this year his defense carried our team. The young guys who he depended on this game had very little experience, yet we got it done most of the day. The kickoff return they had put great pressure on us but we overcame it and our def got turnovers to win it. Thge special teams are responsible for that score and not the defense we place on the field. Wade Woodaz is going to be a great player for us. With the players we have coming in we will get stronger but we will still be young. The portal and NIL have got to have changes or college football will just become a pro minor league. When I played it was to get a free education.

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:49 AM
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If you consider the fact that one of Kentuckys TDs was a kickoff returns, and one of the big plays which turned into a score was the result of Barnes getting trucked by their WR prior to the pass, I think the D really held them to 16 points and not a bad outing at all, all things considered. I think Shelton Lewis has a very high ceiling and will get much better under Reed. #6 defense in the country during the regular season…a TON of takeaways…what exactly do you want?

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Dec 30, 2023, 9:55 AM
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Sorry, guess it would’ve been 21 points.

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Coach Wes will not miss you, so you can be done


Dec 30, 2023, 10:14 AM
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It takes all kinds as they say, sorry that you aren’t happy with the effort of a defense missing 5 starters, 2 of which are among the best at their positions in all of college football.

Now, did the defense play great?? Nope, they didn’t. Did they have coverage busts, yes they did.

It’s a bowl game, young guys getting playing time and learning the speed of the game.

You can either be happy for the plays that were made, or you can focus on the negative and be “done with Wes”

Too bad, perfection must be nice 👍

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Dec 30, 2023, 10:19 AM
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You’re ridiculous

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Dec 30, 2023, 10:26 AM
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Ok, bye.

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Dec 30, 2023, 3:16 PM
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He’s certainly not perfect PBT and not Venables level, but I think this is more an example of bad or at least inexperienced players making coaches look bad and vice-versa. I think he’s a good coach overall and given the current asst coach turnover and brand new offensive staff I think we should hold onto him for now. With all the pieces in place this year his defense largely carried us through the szn

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Youre pathetic

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Dec 30, 2023, 3:21 PM
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Seriously. Soft as Charmin.

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Dec 30, 2023, 3:21 PM
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What were you doing with him? Will he notice that you are done?

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Dec 30, 2023, 3:42 PM
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Seriously? HA HA HA HA HA! 73-43-4!

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Our D had a fantastic year


Dec 30, 2023, 3:44 PM
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Don't fall into the trap of overreacting to a bowl game performance, especially one where our top 2 guys were out.

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