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I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
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Apr 4, 2024, 6:21 PM
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What will they do if we don't pay the exit fee, shake their fist in anger at us? Maybe they can sell the debt to a collection agency, and we can not pick up the phone.
I think cooler heads will eventually prevail, I see no reason to go to court when the ACC is feckless and weak.
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
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Apr 4, 2024, 6:28 PM
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They will fart in our general direction and you can expect some wiffle ball bats on our kneecaps
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I 'd like to see them attempt to collect on that lol.***
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Apr 4, 2024, 6:30 PM
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I'm pretty sure the amount of money the ACC is asking for from Clemson...
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Apr 4, 2024, 6:34 PM
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doesn't even exist in US dollars. Even if we pooled currency from other countries, we would have a hard time getting that kind of money together, and that's including favorable exchange rates. This is a major weakness in the ACC's legal stance, if you are asking me.
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Re: I'm pretty sure the amount of money the ACC is asking for from Clemson...
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May 8, 2023, 8:43 AM
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I believe the ACC wants to get their hands on Fort Hill and put it on one of those house flipping shows. With the hot real estate market, this might cover the exit fee.
Plus, as a land grant school, we own all those agricultural experiment stations. Land is crazy expensive these days and they'd love to get those too.
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Tgw ACC is like the property brothers, but they flip average
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Apr 4, 2024, 7:40 PM
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football programs and make them worse.
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haha...
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Apr 4, 2024, 7:45 PM
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I remember when they did that to VT.
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I remember when PItt used to field players like
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Apr 4, 2024, 7:53 PM
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Dan Marino and Tony Dorsett, then they joined the ACC.
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One word:
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Apr 4, 2024, 7:57 PM
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Miami.
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Our benefits plan includes pre-paid legal
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Apr 4, 2024, 8:12 PM
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It woulda felt like a wasted opportunity if we didn’t take advantage
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Man makes a point
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Apr 4, 2024, 8:27 PM
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What will they do if we don't pay the exit fee, shake their fist in anger at us? Maybe they can sell the debt to a collection agency, and we can not pick up the phone.
I think cooler heads will eventually prevail, I see no reason to go to court when the ACC is feckless and weak.
I'll take Peter Woods, Page, Capehart and Burley against the entirety of ACC HQ. Cannot predict where the misunderstanding might go from there, but might have to engage lacrosse and softball teams.
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
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Apr 4, 2024, 8:55 PM
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If it easy, there would no lawsuit. We chose the ACC, it has great conference for us and we will stay until the entire conference is released which will 10 years or whatever it is. No person with a brain walks away from $40-43 million a year and is given $100 million bill for leaving.
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
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Apr 5, 2024, 10:46 AM
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Absolutely suicide for football, if we stay in the ACC for another 5 years.
We cannot compete getting 30 to 50 mill less revenue then big or SEC schools.
it will be impossible for us to compete.
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
Apr 5, 2024, 10:37 PM
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We will never have the revenue of UA, UT, TAMU, OSU, UM,PSU LSU, and they have had lots for years and we will never catch up...others are still ahead as well...we can't outspend Georgia...so where does it end!
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
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Apr 5, 2024, 11:04 PM
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It's a death trap, it's a suicide rap
We gotta get out while we're young
'Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
Apr 4, 2024, 9:24 PM
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Notre Dame didn't pay an exit fee and they sure had to be an ACC member school to have schedule 10 ACC games in 2020, and they had the same rights as any other member school to play for the ACC championship. But when they took their FB out in 2021 they didn't pay an exit fee, but they did make millions while they had their FB was in the ACC!!!!!!!
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
Apr 4, 2024, 9:36 PM
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I believe they also split some of their NBC coins with the ACC in 2020.
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Honor among thieves?
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Apr 5, 2024, 3:59 AM
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These lawsuits are nothing but smoke and mirror preceding settlements which allows the schools who want to leave to do so. The ACC has well prepared to maintain its status as a minor player in the world of football by inviting and signing new schools.
It's a formal divorce preceded by asking the children which parent they want to live with.
All the good kids want to live with papa so mama picked up a few orphans off the west coast.
Now it all comes down to how much alimony is paid.
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For example - could a person sell themselves into lifelong servitude?
Apr 5, 2024, 6:02 AM
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A person signs a LIFELONG contract for $10M USD in exchange for their indentured servitude to physically remain/stay within a 1 mile radius attending to the daily, legal chores requested for 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, no vacation or holidays.
Food and water provided. In addition, the $10M fee cannot be transferred to another person, nor touched for a period of 50 years.
Would such a contract be legal and enforceable? Could a person even legally enter into such a contract?
I’m not a lawyer, but my initial reaction is that there must be some sort of law that would prohibit a person from entering into such a contract.
I reference this extreme example to illustrate the GOR contract that the ACC is holding over the conference members, that they willfully agreed to and SIGNED.
Finally, in agreeing to sign such a contract, if the person decided that they didn’t like the contract and sought to seek a different contract with different terms WITH ANOTHER PARTY, the OTHER POTENTIAL PARTY being solicited would NEVER consider agreeing to any other agreement considering that there was what appears to be a BINDING contract of indentured servitude in place, regardless of the questionable legality of that contract.
I would think that Clemson would have to legally establish a nullification of the GOR, BEFORE being able to take their “physical self/services” elsewhere.
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Its all about to explode anyway when football becomes
Apr 5, 2024, 7:26 AM
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its own thing. Just wait is what I say and save the $$ spent on lawyers. No way Clemson is not part of the new super league.
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Athletic Dir [871]
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Well, multiple lawsuits and judgements against Clemson's various entities
Apr 5, 2024, 9:49 AM
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for one. You can't just 'not pay' if the contracts and exit fees are held up in court. Eventually the courts would just take the money.
We have a legal system and contract laws that dictate how it all works. But if Clemson loses, leaves and is in breach, you bet the university will finally have to pay.
But Clemson won't be leaving if it all goes through the courts and there would be a judgement to pay IF they left.
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
Apr 5, 2024, 11:19 AM
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Is it because Clements made the comments about how great the GOR revenue was so he and the univer s ity did not to look stupid when several years later the SEC and BIG got larger payouts! Don't think this is going to play out in the end...courts are not going to overturn contract, copywrite and business law for a few greedy colleges...even if one is Clemson...we are in a sense suing ourselves and that makes little sense as well!
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
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Apr 5, 2024, 3:49 PM
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Ask yourself an honest question if you can...If Clemson had been in the SEC for the last ten years would we have won a natty?...With us playing in the ACC we were able to play everyone including the waterboy...develop depth and prevent injuries that would have taken place with a full SEC schedule...like it or not that record helped us to the prom...why leave a guaranteed winner for a pig in a poke...PSU has a great team every year and they can't buy a natty for any amount of money!
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Re: I am not sure why we have to sue the ACC
Apr 5, 2024, 4:45 PM
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Injuries happen regardless of who is lined up on the other side of the LoS. Look no further than Jordan Travis's season ending injury vs North Alabama.
Not to take away from the bigger point - yes, it is harder playing in the SEC than the ACC - but a single school can dominate that league too (see various runs by Bama, UGA, UF and LSU over the last 20 years).
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