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Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team
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Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team

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Dec 16, 2023, 8:23 AM
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Another wrinkle in the neverending debate over whether ACC is equal to or better than SEC.

This time, an SEC coach sincerely suggesting an ACC team is every bit as tough as an SEC team. So an insult cloaked as a compliment?
Or?

Sankey and Phillips ... Celebrity Death Match .... settle this thing once and for all.

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/kentucky-gator-bowl-clemson-sec-mark-stoops/

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Re: Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team

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Dec 16, 2023, 8:29 AM
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Naïve and not smart on the part of stoops, if I was a thin skinned snowflake I would take this as an insult, but the bottom line is it’s pretty ironic cuz Kentucky is much more of an calibre ACC team.

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See what you did there.

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Dec 16, 2023, 8:33 AM
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EXACTLY!***

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Dec 16, 2023, 10:01 AM [ in reply to Re: Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team ]
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The SEC is not a benchmark.

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Dec 16, 2023, 8:37 AM
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It's a top-heavy conference just like the other P5s.

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So it's a "our best five are better than your best five"


Dec 16, 2023, 8:40 AM
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kinda deal, depending on which conference one favors.

Interesting.

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FSU will probably lose to Georgia

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Dec 16, 2023, 8:51 AM [ in reply to The SEC is not a benchmark. ]
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LSU today would beat FSU and they aren't even an SEC championship team

LSU would beat the top ACCs team

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Re: UGA will completely and totally destroy FSU

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:13 AM
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"LSU would be the ACCs top team"


If only LSU had played the top team in the ACC to determine that...

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LSU and UGA would beat FSU

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:19 AM
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Huh. I could have sworn FSU won both games.***

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:23 AM
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they haven't played yet


Dec 16, 2023, 9:33 AM
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Having trouble keeping that strawman together?

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Dec 16, 2023, 10:45 AM
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I admire your tenacity in trying to keep all those broken plates spinning.

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Dang!. ..I'm pretty sure LSU was the SEC West champ last year!


Dec 16, 2023, 3:59 PM [ in reply to they haven't played yet ]
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Why don't you move your allegiance on over to the SEC team of your choice!

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Re: LSU and FSU always play well against each other

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:29 AM [ in reply to LSU and UGA would beat FSU ]
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FSU won last year too.

Maybe the 21-point burst that came out of nowhere was due to the better team wearing down the other team. That's something that SEC teams used to do to other conference's.

Hey, I'm just an observer. But you were the one that said LSU would be the ACC's top team, despite the ACC's top team beating down LSU and winning going away. Now you're saying it'd be a toss-up. Guess we'll just have to rely on the fact that FSU beat LSU by 21 points this year, went undefeated including winning in the Swamp with a backup QB and winning the ACC Championship with a 3rd stringer.

LSU went 2-2 on the road with a Heisman QB and allowed 5 TDs to Florida at home. FSU gave up 1 TD to Florida.

You saying "LSU would be the ACC's top team" is based on nothing factual at all.

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i don't follow FSU or other ACC teams

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:36 AM
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but what i saw in the ACCCG was bad

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That's fine

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Dec 16, 2023, 10:28 AM
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But then maybe don't make broad sweeping statements about how one team from one conference would lead the other conference?

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Re: i don't follow FSU or other ACC teams

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Dec 16, 2023, 11:14 AM [ in reply to i don't follow FSU or other ACC teams ]
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Undoubtedly you don't follow much of anything.

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Clearly Nike doesnt have a clue ***

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Dec 16, 2023, 10:05 AM [ in reply to Re: LSU and FSU always play well against each other ]
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So Clemson is better than SCarokina because of a 62% win %


Dec 17, 2023, 12:54 AM
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and the SEC is not better than the ACC because of a 62% W% ???

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Sorry...I think I accidentally gave you a TD...I'll be sure to TU your other

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Dec 16, 2023, 4:02 PM [ in reply to Re: LSU and FSU always play well against each other ]
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posts!


Message was edited by: longtallsam®


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Re: LSU and FSU always play well against each other

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Dec 16, 2023, 11:12 AM [ in reply to LSU and UGA would beat FSU ]
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FSU beat LSU twice and I dis agree LSU would run the table as easily as you think.

ACC had a winning record vs the SEC and Georgia did not overly impress against GT.

Stay off ESPN is starting to wear on you.

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Re: LSU and FSU always play well against each other


Dec 16, 2023, 3:54 PM
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LSU couldn't have run the table in the D2 with the defense they put on the field this season. It was one of the worst defenses I have seen in years. It reminded of some of the Big 12 and Pac 12 defenses of the early 2000s. I think Ole Miss would have scored LESS if LSU had pulled the defense off the field.

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Re: UGA will completely and totally destroy FSU

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:21 AM [ in reply to Re: UGA will completely and totally destroy FSU ]
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Haha CU at the valley bringing facts

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Re: UGA will completely and totally destroy FSU

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:34 AM [ in reply to FSU will probably lose to Georgia ]
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Someone forgot lsu lost to fsu this year

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And that means nothing now because of the optouts


Dec 16, 2023, 9:42 AM [ in reply to FSU will probably lose to Georgia ]
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And NFL declarations.

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Yep. Another serious blow to college football.

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Dec 16, 2023, 10:38 AM
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Now that college football's primary, perhaps only purpose is officially as a revenue generating business that serves as a semi-pro league for the NFL, the collegiate, academic related aspect is dead for the most part. Players who are students first, just like you were at your alma mater, and share that experience and connection with the fan base and the community, is openly and indifferently done. Sure most or many of the players will still be actual students, but that aspect will have less and less influence over the decisions that guide the sport and the direction in which it moves. We'll wind up with an NFL minor league franchise which uses the facillities of your university.

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I thought LSU got blown out by FSU

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:43 AM [ in reply to FSU will probably lose to Georgia ]
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Nm

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Yep, they did***


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Re: UGA will completely and totally destroy FSU

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Dec 16, 2023, 1:56 PM [ in reply to FSU will probably lose to Georgia ]
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Coot, that shows how little you know about College football. LSU would not been the top of the ACC, did you not notice that FSU already beat them head to head? Are you dumb or just stupid or just a Dumba$$ Coot?

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LSU would be the ACCs top team
and they didn't even win the west


for middle of the pack teams

Clemson didn't have a single TD vs one of the the SEC east's worst teams


the ACC really really sucks so badly that the CFP didn't respect an undefeated champion. it's not corruption. it's just the hard truth that people can't accept .

... excuse me my koolaid ran out




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Clemson is an SEC program that has zero business in the ACC

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Dec 16, 2023, 8:50 AM
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but if y'all want to be a soccer school

so be it

... as it stands right now . we can't make fun of coots for being a women's basketball school because we are a soccer school

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Re: Clemson is an SEC program that has zero business in the ACC

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:06 AM
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Last time I checked the ACC was 6-4 this year against the "Bama/Georgia and the 12 other average dwarfs" conference this year.

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those 6 wins can against zero teams in the SEC Championship

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:17 AM
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and mostly against bottom feeders of their conference

the only time the ACC has beat a top SEC team . it's been Clemson doing it

i liked the old ACC pre Miami VT expansion. i have always disliked the new ACC
there is zero southern tradition

all of our NIL and recruiting "issues" would be fixed if we were SEC.

i just don't understand why holding onto a conference that is nothing like it use to be and is not southern is worth it



... like
Louisville beat Kentuck LOL. Kentucky
FSU beat Florida . littleETN is transferring
Clemson beat SCar never scoring an offensive TD. and it was Scar

i don't know the other wins but these 3 were zero % impressive to me

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So you agree overall

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:25 AM
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Clemson's FB program is superior to most SEC schools

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absolutely . never should have been a doubt


Dec 16, 2023, 9:27 AM
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Clemson is an immediate SEC powerhouse

Georgia is always a step behind Clemson

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even the history of Clemson Football is SEC as it gets


Dec 16, 2023, 9:31 AM [ in reply to those 6 wins can against zero teams in the SEC Championship ]
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we are closer to more SEC schools than ACC schools

we have just as much history in Championships as the SEC "greats"

the ACC is not our peer group . at all . not at all

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Re: those 6 wins can against zero teams in the SEC Championship


Dec 17, 2023, 7:46 AM [ in reply to those 6 wins can against zero teams in the SEC Championship ]
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So Florida, LSU, and A&M are "bottom feeders"? I'll give you USuC and Vandy as bottom feeders, though. SEC homers will find any excuse to defend their ESPN-imposed supremacy in the face of facts.

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for the 2020s . SEC is 60%+


Dec 16, 2023, 4:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Clemson is an SEC program that has zero business in the ACC ]
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the accs good year (vs sec) is the sec average (vs acc) year

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You really need to stop skinnin your ignorance ***


Dec 16, 2023, 10:08 AM [ in reply to Clemson is an SEC program that has zero business in the ACC ]
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01010101010101010101010


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did you know that 73/(73+43)


Dec 16, 2023, 4:38 PM [ in reply to You really need to stop skinnin your ignorance *** ]
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is the argument we use to establish dominance over SCarolina

that's 62% btw

that the same win % the sec has over the acc in the 2020s

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Youre an idjit

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Dec 16, 2023, 10:16 AM [ in reply to Clemson is an SEC program that has zero business in the ACC ]
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I want Clemson to win in every sport we play. I was proud and excited to watch the soccer team bring home a natty. Also enjoyed watching, baseball, softball, and lacrosse. But hey you let us know which sports are important enough for us to care about so we don’t make foolish mistakes in the future and support lesser teams.

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Re: Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:25 AM
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The SEC is NOT the standard in college football as the marketing money makers want you to believe and follow...

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Re: Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team


Dec 16, 2023, 3:57 PM
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I'm listening. Who is and why?

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so if Clemson is better than SCarolina because they have a 62% all time W


Dec 16, 2023, 4:42 PM [ in reply to Re: Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team ]
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why is the SEC not better than the ACC with the same Win % ?
just asking for a friend you know

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Vandy, USuCk, Miss State, etc...also SEC-calibre teams

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Dec 16, 2023, 9:32 AM
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Thanks, but no.

I fail to see how this is a compliment.

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Re: Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team


Dec 16, 2023, 9:57 AM
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FSU got left out because Bama is a much better team.

FSU did not get left out because they are in the ACC.

Bama did not get in because they are in the SEC.

There was no conspiracy and it had nothing to do with TV dollars.

With or without Jordan Travis FSU has been overrated since the summer and reality finally caught up with them.

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Neat.***

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Re: Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team

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Dec 16, 2023, 10:07 AM
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I dont there is much of a debate as to whether the ACC is as good or better. Thats not debated much. The ACC sucks. Clemson is great.

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Re: Stoops: Clemson an SEC-calibre team

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Dec 16, 2023, 11:09 AM
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Rat poison.

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MEG


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Dec 16, 2023, 4:03 PM
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No we are a Clemson team not an sec team—-that is such a BS statement

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SEC has the same win% vs ACC as Clemson does vs Scar


Dec 16, 2023, 4:24 PM
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it's just math

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It could be said that Kentucky is an ACC calibre team***


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