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I think Dabo sent all
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I think Dabo sent all

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Dec 13, 2023, 7:09 AM
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of his old military appreciation day sideline gear to Ukraine for Zelensky to wear

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Dec 13, 2023, 8:19 AM
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YOu have to admire all those in Ukaraine. Everyone thought Russia would take over very quickly. Yet Ukraine has held the at bay and made it very difficult

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Dec 13, 2023, 8:32 AM
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What I DON’T admire is sending 160 BILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer money to finance their war with absolutely NO accountability. THAT is insane and totally WRONG!

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Dec 13, 2023, 8:46 AM
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How much of that has made it back to the Bidens and his cronies in some way, shape or form? Asking for a friend(America)!

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Dec 13, 2023, 8:52 AM
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I've wondered the same thing, but until now have not heard anyone asking the question out loud.... :)

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None .

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Dec 13, 2023, 10:04 AM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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as in zero.

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Dec 13, 2023, 8:51 AM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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Much of that is not cash sent to Ukraine. The majority of the tally is in cash sent to American manufacturers to provide ammunition and other supplies to Ukraine. The requirement to replenish our own armories can be considered somewhat of a benefit to us as we replace the old with newer and fresher ammunition/weapons.

I wish we didn't have to spend this money or the money for aid to Israel, but is is a responsibility that we have long accepted and to do otherwise puts us deeper in the hole as a declining world power.

In the case of Ukraine, we should put the EU on notice that they need to pony up a larger share - and we're not doing enough to force their hand.

According to this article, the run rate of actual cash sent to Ukraine is about 1/3 of the total amount advertised:

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-us-aid-ukraine-money-equipment-714688682747

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Dec 13, 2023, 9:22 AM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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It's a heck of lot better than sending young American troops to confront the Russians if they keep going and invade a NATO country.

I really don't like political posts on the FOOTBALL board but could not let that comment just sit there unchallenged.

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Dec 13, 2023, 9:51 AM
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First of all, no American troops will be sent to Ukraine so get that out of your lefty war mongering heads. Poll after poll has come out saying a majority of Americans disapprove of just money being sent to Ukraine, so you can bet that number would jump sky high if troops were involved and it would be a death sentence for Dems at the polls

Second, for the last 30 years, Russia has ALWAYS said that Ukraine joining NATO would be a red line for them and what did we we do? We had Victoria Nuland orchestrate an overthrow of democratically elected government in Ukraine and replace it with US state department cronies and puppet actor zelensky who we pushed to join NATO. How would you feel if Russia placed its troops on the Mexican or Canadian border?

Third, the same people who are worried about foreign countries borders don't want us to have secured borders here at home. Estimated 7 million illegal immigrants have flowed over our borders on Bidens watch and are crushing border states along with cities like New York and Chicago. Make it make sense why Americans should worry about Ukraine when places like El Paso are being destroyed ?

Fourth, Ukraine CANNOT win and cannot show battle plans moving forward of how it plans it is going to win. Over 500,000 Ukrainians dead and the average age of men in their army has reached 44 years old. You can send all of the money and guns in the world to a country but if there is no one left to use them , how does that work?

Lastly, Ukraine is known to be the most corrupt country on earth and your pal zelensky just bought his second yacht. IF and that's a big if more money is going to be sent to Ukraine , the US border needs to be fully secured and an accounting needs to be done on the money already sent so we can be 100% sure of where it is going as our kids and grandkids will be paying the debt on it.

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Spoken like a true Kremlin propagandist. Good work Komrad.

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Dec 13, 2023, 9:58 AM
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Has lying become the norm in MAGA nation?

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Re: Spoken like a true Kremlin propagandist. Good work Komrad.


Dec 13, 2023, 10:01 AM
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if the MAGA message is our country needs to start advocating for peace in Ukraine before it loses 2 generations of men and not just 20% of it's territory but ALL of its territory then that is a message I am proud to get behind

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It's definitely Putin's lies that your are proudly repeating, not Ukraine's.

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Dec 13, 2023, 10:06 AM
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Putin, Trump and MAGA Nation unite!

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"Lefty war mongering heads"...

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Dec 13, 2023, 12:48 PM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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Who invaded Iraq in 2003?...

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The Republicans used to hate Russia.

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Dec 13, 2023, 12:34 PM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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Regan handed them their a$$. They are our enemies; never forget that.

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^^^^Russian Sympathizer^^^^

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Dec 13, 2023, 9:24 AM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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You do know that it’s less than one percent of the budget

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Dec 13, 2023, 9:28 AM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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Yep a few seem very eager to keep sending funds and ammo. Americans have no clue what’s going on behind the scenes. Not thinking Ukraine would gives 2 winks if the roles were reversed.

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Putin thanks you and Trump and all of MAGA Nation for your support.

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Dec 13, 2023, 9:32 AM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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Cutting off US aid to Ukraine is his only hope for victory and staying in power with so many Russians dying in the war.

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How quickly people forget that the Republicans handed Russia their

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Dec 13, 2023, 12:36 PM
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a$$es in the 80s. Charlie's war led to the fall of the Soviet Union for heaven's sakes.

They are our enemies, people need to be reminded of that.

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Dec 13, 2023, 9:51 AM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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Well at least 90% of that money is spent on US companies. It is 5% of our military budget.

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Dec 13, 2023, 12:13 PM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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Chip,

What kind of oversight do you have in mind ??

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Dec 13, 2023, 12:30 PM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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Have heard some went to pay their politicians and business entities. There is very little accountability for most funds the fed flushes out.

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the only good politician is a dead politician.


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Dec 20, 2023, 1:10 PM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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We spend money by letting them by ammo and weapons from our manufacturers so most of the money comes back to American workers. Also, we spend money and they spend blood. If Putin were to win other countries will be next. Stop him now like we didn't do with Hitler in 1938.

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Tough fighters in Ukraine, they are defending their homes.

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Dec 13, 2023, 12:32 PM [ in reply to Re: I think Dabo sent all ]
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I am a huge WWII buff. The Russians used to have a tuff army (beat us to Berlin in WWII) - not so much now.

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Dec 13, 2023, 12:16 PM
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MODS

Can we move this crap to the politics board or delete it altogether?

Francis Marion®

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