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Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:23 AM
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Not sure who you replace him with but I think he’s seat is a little warmer than it has been. Very Jimbo Fisher thing to have all this talent and be 4-3 heading into the gauntlet of the season
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:23 AM
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Not even warm.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:24 AM
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:56 AM
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Yeah fire Dabo because we have dying to be NC State, LSU, Ole Miss, any Florida team, Texas, or the Michigan's of the world......
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 10:20 AM
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News flash. We already are and many of those teams are better.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 2:03 PM
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You mentioned, Texas, Lsu any Florida school and Michigan. All those schools would beat Clemson. LSU, UT. UofM are Program schools. Meaning that they can withstand coaching changes sanctions whatever, May take a coach or 2 to figure it out but they are destination schools. Dabo is Clemson football! Clemson will not be relevant without Dabo. At the end of the day Clemson plays in the middle of nowhere SC and in the ACC. I would guess most college fans have no idea what city Clemson is in
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 9:24 AM
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His*
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No, but every single one of his crap hires should be.***
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Re: No, but every single one of his crap hires should be.***
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:31 AM
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Bingo, should have fired the whole offensive staff last season and not just Streeter!
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:25 AM
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Yes and no.
If you say 'hot seat' means his job is on the line depending on the rest of the season? No. His recent history and 64 or so million we would need to send him packing assures that he'll still be here.
However, if 'hot seat' means feeling the pressure and starting to make substantive changes because he's beginning to really hear the noise? I would think most definitively yes.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:28 AM
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What if you were his boss and in the meeting after the season he refused to make significant changes? What would you do?
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:35 AM
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I'd make them for him by bringing in his replacement and firing him for insubordination. That would be for cause and would void his buyout.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 9:37 AM
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Who would his replacement be? I think this is the bigger issue.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 9:52 AM
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We would have no problem finding a coach lol.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 12:03 PM
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This could be the conundrum we are in. Agree it could be a for cause termination. Hope he makes serious changes because I like everything about Dabo but his stubbornness.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:20 PM
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What if you were his boss and in the meeting after the season he refused to make significant changes? What would you do?
Dabo does not have a "boss". He dictates to the AD what he will do. His salary his 14X his superior. He will be here until the 10 year deal expires and then ride off into a wealthy retirement. BOT has oversight but they will let things play out since Dabo is a legend with two Natty's and a good graduation rate. He will do as he pleases. The friends and family approach worked before so it will likely continue with only minor tweaks.
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Diversity seminars..
Oct 22, 2023, 1:32 PM
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So he can learn how to treat the TRANSFORMER human detritus the represent .0021 of the US population; yet we must accommodate these mentally ill freak shows at every turn. A little more inclusivity and we're undefeated–
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no***
Oct 22, 2023, 9:26 AM
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 9:27 AM
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No for the same reason jimbos still at A&M, the buyout.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:39 AM
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Agree.
Very similar to Jimbo.
He’s paid too much to cut him loose.
We’ll/he’ll ride this thing all the way down.
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Nah.
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:29 AM
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He's gonna be the dude for a while. For better or worse ...
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Of course not
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:31 AM
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Dabo's impact on Clemson University reaches areas that can't be measured. He is the face of Clemson and has done more than anyone to build the brand. Clemson isn't just football, although for most not directly affiliated with the University it's hard to fathom, and sadly, for some that are.
Go Tigers!
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Re: Of course not
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:37 AM
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He is the football coach. He isn’t the president of the university. His job is to literally win football games.
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Re: Of course not
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Oct 22, 2023, 10:45 AM
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^ gets it. And gets paid a boatload,
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It would take 2 more seasons like this for his seat to get hot at all
Oct 22, 2023, 9:33 AM
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Even if things were to go completely downhill from here, we've seen this play out elsewhere. He's gonna get an opportunity to replace his staff before his own job is in any jeopardy.
Just look at how long Les Miles was able to hang on at LSU. That was with half the success that Dabo has had, and even crazier fans trying to push him out the door.
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Re: It would take 2 more seasons like this for his seat to get hot at all
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:39 AM
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You do realize that this didn’t happen overnight and what we are seeing is a direct cause of Dabo doing things “his way” in spite of others saying it wouldn’t work. I mean when he was hiring friends and family he earned the right to do so. That was his chance to prove his way worked. It’s been a dismal failure and needs to be addressed now, not later. Either Dabo addresses it or we need to address Dabo
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Of course I realize this didn't happen overnight
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:50 AM
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I'm just saying, no matter how bad things potentially get, Dabo isn't going anywhere for several years unless he leaves on his own accord.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:34 AM
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If I manage a successful business for years then run it off a cliff by hiring my family and friends, micromanaging my employees, and calling out the customers my job would be in jeopardy. Why wouldn’t his?
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 9:39 AM
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His job will be when the stadium stops filling up and the bowls payouts fall off. Right now, there's been one bowl outside of the NY6 and the stadium is still full. I agree his impact is bigger than football wins and losses but ultimately, those 2 things will be how he is judged.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:36 AM
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Not even close. We couldn’t afford to fire him.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 9:39 AM
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Not from Clemson, but maybe his own perspective on what he expects of himself
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 9:42 AM
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Clemson couldn't fire him if tbey wanted to. His buyout is over 50 million dollars. Yet another example of poor decisions by a university athletic department. But at least the next coach won't have to worry about following a legend when it does happen!
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Yes***
Oct 22, 2023, 9:42 AM
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:47 AM
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When coaches enter into big contracts, the fans expect big results. We are slipping and if massive changes aren't made, then it certainly deserves to heat up.
It is a results-based business.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 1:46 PM
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We have big expectations, but at some point we have to ask were those expectations reasonable. We expect him to finish in the top 4 of 133 annually. Some expect more than that. I can't count the number of people that point to losing to LSU in the National Championship as the beginning of our downfall. I'm not trying to say this year is acceptable, but at this point it is an outlier.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:52 AM
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My goodness. The man has won 2 NC’s and I cannot even remember how many ACC championships.
Here is the issue and we all knew it would be. Clemson cannot compete with the NIL dollars needed to be elite. The downfall has begun unfortunately and the hope / wait till next year will be gone in about 5 years for Clemson and many other programs. The downfall of CFB has begun. Veiwership will really start to taper off in about 5 years.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 10:26 AM
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You act like Dabo won those by himself. Let us not forget he had BV and Chad Morris, Jeff Scott etc and was recruiting top level talent. BV is now 7-0 and many realize just how important he was to our success if not entirely.
Since that time we have less talent and inexperienced coaches at just about every level. Can we get back there? Sure. Let Riley clean house and get good coaches to implement his offense. This would mean not everyone on staff would be overpaid Dabo worshipers with no where else to go if they get out of line so it isn’t going to happen and this thing is going to crap the bed. Some people are aware of danger before tragedy, others fall off the side of cliffs and such
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The cult has been conditioned to find any scapegoat besides Dabo.
Oct 22, 2023, 12:27 PM
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NIL, transfer portal, players not panning out, coaches still learning, anti-Clemson bias, or just “bad luck.”
It’s laughable at this point.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 9:53 AM
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Luke warm
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No. Hes earned 1 more year of doing things his way before
Oct 22, 2023, 10:03 AM
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I believe his seat starts to get warm.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 10:15 AM
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No; but your "hot takes" aređź‘Ť
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 10:52 AM
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I don’t think so at all. But I think his time here may be limited by his growing frustration with going up against the changes he correctly sees as ruining college football. Looks like it’s starting to wear on him already. And imho I don’t see a way around the new realities and still be elite.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:12 PM
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I agree, he doesn’t like the portal and NIL but he also doesn’t like losing. He likes when the fans like him also. If it continues to spiral he may retire. I hope adapts- he has before very successfully- but those adaptations were at the coaching level not the structural changes we are seeing in the game.
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No, nor should he be.
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:21 PM
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But he does need to do a lot better than he has been recently.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 12:29 PM
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Dabo has a lifetime contract at Clemson. He could commit murder and wouldn’t be on the hot seat
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Truth. The admin remembers what Clemson football was
Oct 22, 2023, 1:22 PM
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before Dabo. He would have to have 3 or 4 .500 seasons before they thought about replacing him.
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Of course not
Oct 22, 2023, 12:31 PM
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But Dabo will be having a discussion with Neff and Clements concerning staff changes and player policies ...
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Staff changes...
Oct 22, 2023, 12:50 PM
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In reply to a poster above. No accomplished coach would take a contract that would allow him to be fired for cause if he didn't change his staff at the AD or administration's demand.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 1:26 PM
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Only if he has a heated toilet seat. Even then it will be his elbows on it after watching the tape of the sickening performance last night.
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Not even close.
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Oct 22, 2023, 1:36 PM
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Neff hasn’t had the balls to can brownell yet so he sure won’t question Dabo.
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Re: Is Dabo officially on the Hot Seat?
Oct 22, 2023, 1:38 PM
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Not at all.
If we have a repeat season of 3-5 losses, then it might start getting warm.
The man has done incredible things at Clemson, and certainly deserves AT LEAST the same grace as previous coaches.
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