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Apr 6, 2024, 11:09 PM
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Is the best qb on this team
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 6, 2024, 11:10 PM
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💯 you and I could do better than Cade
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Re: Pearman
Apr 6, 2024, 11:10 PM
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Today.
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 6, 2024, 11:24 PM
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You remember 2 years ago we opened against GT. And late in that game Cade had a perfect drive right down the field with a couple of great throws. All the fans swore he was so much greater than DJ. This is round 2 but much worse lol. No game experience UGA would destroy pearman worse than they did DJ.
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 6, 2024, 11:27 PM
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I know what my eyes tell me and everything looks way more fluid and less complicated when he was back there today
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Re: Pearman
Apr 6, 2024, 11:30 PM
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Yea yea everyone’s eyes told them the same story when Cade was out there against GT 2 years ago.
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 6, 2024, 11:42 PM
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I see no difference in cade today and Cade a couple months ago , and if we gonna ride with him , get ready for another 9-4 or 8-5
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 6, 2024, 11:51 PM
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What would our record be with Pearman? You are placing all your eggs in a basket when he hasn’t played real competition? Everyone did the same thing with Cade in his first glimpse.We don’t need Cade to improve greatly. We loss to FSU in overtime. We loss to Miami in overtime. We loss to NC state by a field goal. 1 turnover in each game cost us. And one of those turnovers had nothing to do with Cade. All we need is Cade to improve by the slightest margin and we are a 10 win team. And it’s not if we are going to Ride with him, because Dabo is 100% riding with him. Accept it and move on. If not wallow in your thought of an 8 win season.
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 6, 2024, 11:58 PM
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I don’t know what our record would be but I remember a walk on named Stetson Bennett who won 2 nattys so it ain’t impossible. Trent went up against the same defense cafe went up against today and he played way better
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Re: Pearman
Apr 7, 2024, 3:03 PM
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The other poster's point is that Klubnik went up against the same defenses as Uiagalelei, and Klubnik looked better. How did that turn out?
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Re: repost from another thread with an add-on
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Apr 7, 2024, 2:55 AM
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We're not basing this off of one spring game. We're basing this off of the continuously poor performance of Clemson's offense for the past 3 seasons. To give you some idea, here's Clemson's offensive beta rank from last year. This is a ranking system that looks at drive efficiency, explosiveness, play efficiency, and negative drives to produce an overall ranking of college football offenses. Last season, Clemson's offense ranked 76th out of the 133 college football teams in the FBS. In 2022, they were 35th. In 2021, they were 69th. To put things into perspective, here is that same ranking over previous years going all the way back to 2012 when they first created the statistic:
2023: 76th
2022: 35th
2021: 69th
2020: 9th
2019: 5th
2018: 4th
2017: 19th
2016: 2nd
2015: 7th
2014: 72nd
2013: 14th
2012: 6th
By this same statistic last year, Clemson would've ranked 11th out of 14 in the ACC. For some added comparison, they would've been 12th in the SEC. I'm not sure people realize just how bad this offense has been. The 2023 Clemson offense was actually in the bottom half of the entire FBS. As you can see in the rankings, there was some improvement from 2021 to 2022, but 2023 was a massive regression, the worst ranking out of all 12 years listed for Clemson, even worse than the Cole Stoudt year. Now granted, beta rankings aren't perfect, and everyone has their own opinion on how to judge offenses, but they're the best system I've found, and I think if you look at them year-by-year you'll have to admit they're pretty fair if you think back on what some of those teams looked like. (I'll link it here: https://www.sharpcollegefootball.com/offensive-beta-rank )
The reality is, Clemson will never be able to be a great football team with an offense this bad. The great defense helps a lot, but you can't make up for that poor of an offense no matter how good the defense is. We were hoping to see signs of hope during the spring game, but what we got was yet another disappointing offensive performance from Klubnik and Vizzina. What upsets people is that they're realizing that unless the offense can improve, the level of play (and results) from 2021-2023 will be the new normal for Clemson in 2024 and beyond. Optimists have dismissed the spring game as nothing to worry about each of the past 2 years, yet look what happened. Now I'm not saying that the spring game should be looked at as the end-all-be-all of what will happen later, but it can at least offer some clues. And based on what we saw yesterday, the offense looks just as uninspiring as it did last year, save for some good performances by Pearman and a handful of other skill players. But the point is that if Cade doesn't play better, it's not going to matter much how well the receivers play. We were hoping to see some signs of progress for CK2 during the spring game, but he looked pretty much the same as before.
Now you're right about the danger of overreacting, and I'm not saying that Pearman is necessarily the answer. The example you used of how excited we were for Cade in 2022 after the GT drive was a good one. But the point is, think about the quality of those teams the Tigers lost to. With the possible exception of Florida State, none of them were elite teams. NC State was pretty good, but Miami and Duke were .500 or worse in conference play and didn't even finish the year ranked. They even only managed to score 17 against Wake at home in a 1-score win. Is the goal really for Clemson to barely be able to beat mediocre ACC teams? If that's the case, they're bound to lose some of them just by the nature of how close they are. And the Tigers would stand no chance trying to compete playing at that level against elite playoff contenders. And while Clemson did have some very costly turnovers last season, you can't expect to play completely turnover-free football. Some turnovers and mistakes are bound to happen throughout the course of a game no matter how good the offense is. The reason they tended to hurt Clemson so badly last year was because the offense struggled so mightily to score, which magnified each mistake since it was so difficult to score points in response.
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Re: repost from another thread with an add-on
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Apr 7, 2024, 3:09 AM
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All I’m saying is what we’ve seen in the spring game for the last 3 years was exactly what we got when it came time to play the games, slow nothing the even came close to being explosive and when Pearman got in there the ball was being moved down the field , wasn’t throwing in the coverage which Cade did multiple times today and shoulda had 3 picks instead of the one
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Re: repost from another thread with an add-on
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Apr 7, 2024, 3:38 PM
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I don't think anyone is arguing with you point about the drop-off in Clemson's offense. The argument is people overreacting to Pearman's performance. You simply cannot deduce that Pearman is the answer. It would be great if he was, but you absolutely cannot deduce that he is from this spring game.
Now in regards to your point about Clemson's offense, I agree 100% with what you said. Where I disagree is with you is about the solution. Frankly, the solution is to get better players. That's why Clemson's offense is worse that it was in years past. The players now simply aren't as good as the players then. My issue is people trying to convince themselves that the backup quarterback is just going to magically become the next Trevor Lawrence or Deshaun Watson. It's frankly delusional.
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 7, 2024, 7:30 AM
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It's probably easier to make things look more fluid and less complicated when there are no defenders looking to take off the QB's head.
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 7, 2024, 12:03 PM
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people don't seem to understand the concept of situational scrimmages. They unloaded the kitchen sink on Klubnick and let Pearman sit in the pocket and throw. The idea is to see how these kids respond.. And as best as I can tell, the issues are on the Oline, not QB, as they have been for the last 4 seasons.
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I don't think the circumstances allow me to made a conclusion.
Apr 7, 2024, 5:26 AM
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The value of this game is multifaceted and provides an opportunity for our coaches to reach for many goals.
They want pressure on the upperclassmen to work hard over the break to remain focused on their preparations for next year. In order to motivated them it's possible, most likely, he manufactured conditions on the field that highlighted their weaknesses.
That gave younger players opportunity to shine which build confidence and motivated them to work harder for playing time being that they loved the success. Their success pushed starters.
Dabo is usually half a mile ahead of his fans on everything.
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Re: I don't think the circumstances allow me to made a conclusion.
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Apr 7, 2024, 7:52 AM
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If you’re observant and listen to what the man says, Dabo is already greasing the skids for Pearman just in case it comes to that. Dabo told the announcers…paraphrasing ….“hey I’m telling you this kid can play. He’s a little undersized and arm strength is average but he has major moxie. He ain’t no donkey. He was the SC Gatorade Player of the Year 2X and won back to back state championships. See, you have to see that Dabo is prepping your mind just in case Pearman ends up being “the guy” at some point this season.
Then when asked for a scouting report on Cade, how has he improved? Dabo said something like: well Cade is not as prone to make the stupid mistakes he made last year. Then he cites a 3rd and 12 in Fg range where Cade checks down to the back instead trying to make a risky throw. So, Dabo is not really bragging too much on Cade. He’s telling us how Cade needs to stop making the disastrous plays he is prone to make in games. And he thinks Cades big improvement is in that area. He’s not saying Cade is a better passer or panics less under duress, or that he has the Deshaun type instincts of when to pull it down and scramble.
Listen to what the man says. He told you straight up today that Pearman was THE reason they didn’t go after a QB in the portal. Dabo is telling you Pearman is pushing Cade for the spot. You just have to listen. Dabo will be long suffering with Cade like he has been with every QB, but don’t be surprised if we are getting the same ol Cade to see Pearman take over at some point.
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Re: I don't think the circumstances allow me to made a conclusion.
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Apr 7, 2024, 8:06 AM
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The one thing I see Pearman do better than Klubnik and Vizzina is his delivery timing. His clock runs faster and he gets the ball out quicker to the slant and the sideline. This atleast lessens the telegraph of where the ball is going. Also, not a bad quality with how poorly the Oline was blocking yesterday. No idea if he would do that well in an actual game, but we have a season of Klunbnik staring down receivers and delivering the ball late or behind the receiver. That was not the way to an explosive offense. Bottomline? It probably doesn’t matter who is QB if they don’t get better blocking, route running, and catching balls delivered to the numbers. The Tigers need to get better all around the QB so we can have a productive game manager. This team can have a great season with a competent game manager if the defense plays like last season.
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Re: I don't think the circumstances allow me to made a conclusion.
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I think he was more responding to all the geniuses last year who called Pearman a "loyalty, nepotism" hire who shouldn't be on scholarship. Once again, they were wrong and Dabo was right. Now some of these same people are telling Dabo to start him after one good scrimmage.
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 7, 2024, 8:19 AM
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Don't trash talk Daniel players and then after a few plays proclaim one of their former players the best. Stay tuned in August and September.
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Re: Pearman
Apr 7, 2024, 11:27 AM
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Dang, you should submit your resume to Dabo!
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Re: Pearman
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Apr 7, 2024, 1:35 PM
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Pearman was the best QB today. He looked natural as I thought Helms did but more athletic. He made quick decisions and took advantage of the short passing game. Cade seems to want to hit a home run rather than letting the game come to him. The short game receivers gained a lot of yardage after the completion. Pearman took less sacks as got the ball out quicker.
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