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Saban 10 second rule question
Feb 14, 2014, 11:50 AM
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If they change the rule to allow 10 seconds for defensive substitutions, will the ref still step in to allow the defense to match the offense's substitution? Seems to me that you can't have both.
If I'm the offense, I put in a personnel package within the first 10 seconds and let the defense match up. Then at 29 seconds, completely change personnel and snap it when the defense subs. Start out with a jumbo package and then bust 5 wides at 27 seconds on the playclock.
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Re: Saban 10 second rule question
Feb 14, 2014, 12:04 PM
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I made a point similar to your yesterday. The offense is in control of the game of what is played and what is defended. Now Saban wants that changed to where the defense will take control. Saban's way will kill the game b/c people want to see points scored. Nothing more boring than a FB game that stays between the 35 yard lines.
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A fundamental rule of football is the offense sets the pace
Feb 14, 2014, 12:10 PM
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its always been that way. I'm fine with allowing defenses to sub to match personnel if the offense subs, and I'm fine with the rule that prevents 12 men in the huddle. But an offense shouldn't have to deal with the inability to control the pace AND allow the ref to step in and allow the defense to match personnel.
If anything, I suspect this 10 second rule change will make offenses go FASTER. It take a few seconds for the ref to spot the ball ready for play, and the offense to get lined up. Now you are going to have offenses whose entire goal is to snap the ball at 29 seconds on the play clock.
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Doesn't the play clock not start on first downs till the
Feb 14, 2014, 12:15 PM
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chains are set? Would they then get time to reset chains, spot the ball, and 10 seconds?
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There is confusion on that
Feb 14, 2014, 12:25 PM
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Some articles I've read said this only applied to a 40 second play clock and others said that it will apply on all plays. I believe 1st downs and plays that go out of bounds are a 25 second clock.
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whining
Feb 14, 2014, 4:12 PM
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Do the math clemson runs 80 plays a game on offense ten seconds per play how does this make sense or am I not understanding this correctly
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Saban wants
Feb 14, 2014, 4:39 PM
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Ten seconds every play for the defense to get set that 1 min extra every 6 plays times two for both teams offense and that's a lot of time right?
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Will someone please
Feb 14, 2014, 9:43 PM
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Explain Saban and the ten second Def rest. If we run 80 plays and fsu runs 75 isn't that a half hour added to the game time coverage
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It's not added to the time
Feb 14, 2014, 10:16 PM
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Well, it could be if the O is constantly snapping the ball at 40. Basically if a team is snapping the ball at an average of 8 seconds and they run 80 plays you're looking at a bit over 2 minutes of additional playing time. However, statistics have shown that the ball is only ever snapped before 29 seconds a total of 10% of the time. That will same team will have 8 plays on average where they snap the ball before the 29 second mark. Using the same 8 second run-off average that's 16 additional seconds of coverage.
This rule has zero to do with the speed of the snaps. It's about the speed in which a defense can adequately sub and try to get set. Right now, if the O doesn't sub the umpire won't stand over the ball. If the O is ready to go and the D is still subbing then the D is SOL. If the O subs the umpire will stand over the ball until both teams have subbed. The cry baby Saban rule will at least guarantee that a D can sub on every single play getting fresh legs in there. Not cool.
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