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Oculus Spirit [85963]
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The Idaho murders..
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:25 AM
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This part is crazy.
One of the roommates woke up during the event....she saw the killer in the house. She locked her door....and went back to sleep? They called 911 about 8 hours later.
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University of Idaho undergrad Dylan Mortensen said she first woke up around 4 a.m. on Nov. 13 to what she assumed was the sound of her roommate, Kaylee Goncalves, playing with her dog upstairs.
A short time later, Mortensen thought she heard her 21-year-old friend say, “There’s someone here.” But when Mortensen looked out of her bedroom, she didn’t see a thing. She peeked outside her bedroom door a second time when she heard crying coming from the bedroom of her other roommate, Xana Kernodle.
“It’s OK, I’m going to help you,” Mortensen told authorities she heard a male voice say.
Shocked Neighbors of Idaho Suspect Say He Was a ‘Lone Wolf’
The third time Mortensen opened her bedroom door to a far more terrifying sight: “a figure clad in black clothing and a mask that covered the person’s mouth and nose walking toward her.” But the masked man just walked past her and left the home through the back sliding-glass door as she stood there in “frozen shock.”
Hours later, Mortensen would learn that three of her roommates—and one of their boyfriends—had been brutally murdered.
That’s according to a probable cause affidavit unsealed Thursday, which lays out previously unknown details about what happened in the Moscow, Idaho, rental home the night of the shocking murders that have since captured national attention.
Investigators “believe the homicides occurred between 4:00 a.m. and 4:25 a.m.,” the affidavit states.
One of the surviving roommates—it has not been revealed which it was—called 911 at 11:58 a.m., police revealed more than a week after the deadly scene unfolded. Cops said “multiple people” spoke to the dispatcher on that call, which is not mentioned in the affidavit, but was made from one of the roommates’ phones.
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All-TigerNet [12259]
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Crazy, or suspect?
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:29 AM
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hey, looks like a dude up to no good in our house, just heard someone crying, screw it, I'm going back to bed
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All-In [44075]
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Eh, probably shidfaced from the night before and from
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:34 AM
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most accounts it seems like that spot was a party house with folks in and out all the time.
Strange not to report it straightaway still....who knows.
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Oculus Spirit [85963]
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She "stood there in frozen shock"
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:37 AM
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and then she locked the door.
I think she had some clue something wasn't right.
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Oculus Spirit [79508]
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That was my thoughts initially, but after thinking about it
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:59 AM
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and talking with my wife....We're pretty removed from college so I think we forget how it was to some degree. College chicks cry. A lot, and they usually date at least 1 shitthead who at minimum walks the line of abusing them. Their roommates are typically used to these relationship cycles, or in the case of some bringing random guys home. While the situation may have had a different feel, an encounter with some rando at 4am might not have necessarily been unusual. Also, I'm sure they were hammered and/or had drugs in the house so calling the cops wasn't her first thought.
Plus, middle class white chicks have ZERO street smarts. Like none at all, what most adults expect to be a normal reaction is almost 180deg from how they are going to react in reality.
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I've lived in a couple places like that in my time
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:58 AM
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people in and out all hours, always a game of poker/cups/quarters going on, music, drinking, cooking going on 24/7 etc. You get immune to seeing weirdness, and just locking the bedroom door to get some sacktime is the routine.
But yeah, yells and blood curdling screams usually snaps one out of even the most wicked drunken stupor.
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Chaotic party house with people in and out all hours would
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Jan 6, 2023, 10:06 AM
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really be an ideal place to try and get away with something like this. Especially a big place, 3 floors, doors probably often unlocked...totally different than a quiet apartment with 2 or 4 roommates.
I can totally imagine why you might hear or see something or odd, think 'I'll check it out later after I get some sleep'. Especially if you are drunk/high yourself.
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Oculus Spirit [79006]
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She maybe could have saved a life
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:34 AM
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If she acted quicker
Dumb b i t c h
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Didn't call 911 until...11:58am?
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:48 AM
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I'm jealous of that skillset I used to have before having my soul crushed by the work world. But none of that makes sense--if you actually somebody dressed like that IN YOUR APARTMENT at 4am, how do you not go investigate what you just saw?
Fuggin' women, man.
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Re: The Idaho murders..
Jan 6, 2023, 9:50 AM
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I don’t think I’ve seen an answer to this and I’m really curious, how the heck did they find this guy? Like how did he get caught?
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Car and DNA I believe***
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:51 AM
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Oculus Spirit [85963]
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He left a knife and sheath in the apartment.
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:56 AM
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The sheath had his DNA on it. They used the genealogy thing to find a relative of his and matched him with the car and stuff.
They actually knew who he was and where he was 15 days before the arrest. The stopped him and his dad in Indiana on the drive from Washington to PN.
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Oculus Spirit [85963]
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PN = PA = Pennsylvania***
Jan 6, 2023, 9:57 AM
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They used Neighbors ring cams to figure out the make and
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Jan 6, 2023, 10:04 AM
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model of car. They had a security guard at Dude's campus call and report that his car matched and that the car was gone at odd times in the middle of the night. The matched his ID from the plate to one of the DNA family hits from the apartment (the one on the snap of the knife). They used that to get a warrant for cell phone tower records. The cell phone tower records showed that his phone traveled from his campus to a location near that apartment 12 times from June until the murders. However, on the night of the murder, it left his apartment at 2:00AM and then didn't ping any tower again until 4:45AM when it pinged a tower in a town south of the murders. Then it pinged a series of towers back to his house.
Using that evidence, they pulled him twice while driving home with his dad and then surveiled him at his home for several days. One night, in the middle of the night, they saw him leave the house and put his family's trash in several of the neighbors bins. They retrieved items from the trash and found a DNA sample that turned out to be his fathers, but that sample matched the scene sample so well that it ruled out 99.9998% of all other adult males.
Arrested.
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To be honest, the main reason I know this is that my wife...
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Jan 6, 2023, 10:06 AM
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is obsessed with the case, and she has been reading all kinds of crazy #### about it. So I get home and she's telling me all kinds of crazy theories she read on the internet. So I read the summary of the charging affidavit to see what they actually had.
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Oculus Spirit [79508]
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Link to the affidavit if anyone cares to read the whole
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Jan 6, 2023, 10:05 AM
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thing, it's surprisingly informative.
https://www.docdroid.net/8YZDAmt/122922-affidavit-exhibit-a-statement-of-brett-payne-pdf122922 Affidavit - Exhibit A - Statement of Brett Payne.pdf I. I. ! .. :;iIi. L,i. t......._. i.t t-t.i. [r;. ._..__ r,,.1.,1. '!i'1 r;:11. i. Exhibit A Statement of Brett Payne. :.:':. 1,,...1. Pn. iil)'Fo ' "'it ' :i [.J ,.a QJ. The belowinformation is provided by Brett Payne, who is a duly appointed, qualified and acting peace offtcer within the County of ...
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Yes it’s crazy. Simple inexplicable.
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Jan 6, 2023, 9:59 AM
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Killer is one cold, calculating psycho and deserves to die.
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Simple inexplicable.
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Jan 6, 2023, 10:29 AM
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