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Feb 25, 2024, 9:24 PM
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Another message pointed me to:
betiq.teamrankings.com

The argument was how bad Clemson is as the Favored Team.
One example given was since 2021 Clemson is 11th in the ACC at 72.1% 44-17.
So, I wanted to see what the Underdog role looked like:
Since 2021 Clemson is 2nd in the ACC at 40.0% 12-18.
Much like football they like to play with a chip on their shoulder.
So, there are a few more losses than wins, but the percentage is better.

That made me want to look at all games just see how we are doing.

This is how I searched:
Record Type: Win/Loss
Season: Since 2010
Conference: ACC

Situation: All Games
Since Win% ACC Rank
2010 58.4 10
2011 57.9 11
2012 58.4 11
2013 59.9 09
2014 59.4 06
2015 60.3 07
2016 61.0 06
2017 62.4 05
2018 60.7 06
2019 61.1 04
2020 63.6 04
2021 62.8 06
2022 68.9 03
2023 70.4 04 active
Assuming 6-3 run based on RPI rankings that would leave us with a 25-11
2023 69.4 04

What I am seeing is steady improvement. Some of you will argue that the out of conference schedule will inflate the record (and it does slightly), so here is only conference games:

Situation: Conference
Since Win% ACC Rank
2010 49.4 10
2011 49.0 10
2012 49.2 09
2013 51.2 08
2014 50.8 05
2015 51.7 06
2016 51.6 05
2017 54.0 05
2018 53.0 05
2019 54.1 05
2020 55.8 04
2021 55.0 06
2022 63.2 04
2023 56.3 05 active
Assuming 5-2 run based on RPI rankings that would leave us with a 14-9
2023 60.9 05

But you still see steady improvement.

Since 2014 it has been consistently North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, and Florida State ahead of us with a few teams coming and going (Va Tech had the best run). But we passed Florida State in 2020. Wake Forest may finish ahead of us this year, but this shows that Clemson has steadily improved and we could be considered one of top 4 consistent programs. Yeah, we have a bad year here and there, but we have not fallen completely apart like say Louisville.

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Feb 26, 2024, 10:07 AM
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So, by 2035 Brownell's teams should be winning enough to qualify for NCAA tournament regularly?

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